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Thanks alot jaituteja for reply. You mean to say that Initial 20Q should be correct and in remaining 21Q, 10Q should not be incorrect continually?. I am asking this question because right now I have 50% of accuracy while solving verbal question so just want to know how much improvement I need to do to get 700 score.

Hi solanki2803,

Practically, it is very difficult to get the initial 20 question correct as GMAT is adaptive and maintaining 700 level in the first 20 questions is challenging but not impossible. As per the link i shared in my earlier post, Last 11 incorrect gave V38, provided initial 30 question were absolutely correct.
If out of 41 questions you make 10-11 questions incorrect continually, ie. 5,11,15,19,25,etc are the incorrect question,i.e in gaps, then V36 is the score that one achieves.

If you have 50% accuracy, then its not bad at all. you have 20 questions incorrect, you improve at only 10. you will get V36..
Examine what level of questions are you making incorrect and then study accordingly.
Give an adaptive test MGMAT/GMAT Prep to see where actually your score falls. It is the shortage of time that makes you do mistakes, or it is some section like CR in my case, on which you need to work.

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Currently it is the shortage of time which makes me do mistakes and mainly I am taking more than 10 minutes to solve a RC which should me around 8 minutes I guess for a 4 ques RC. I am targeting following timing for Verbal-
SC- (in GMAT 13-15 ques) - 1minute per que = 15 minutes
CR- (in GMAT 11-13 ques) - 2minutes per que = 26 minutes
RC- (in GMAT 4 RC with 4 question in each RC) - 8 minutes per RC = 32 minutes
I haven't attempt any GMAT prep and MGMAT tests yet saving them for later right now doing sectional tests to improve my accuracy and speed.
Let me know if my strategy is correct or not . or what can I do to improve. I want to improve as much as possible before starting giving GMAT prep and MGMAT tests.
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Currently it is the shortage of time which makes me do mistakes and mainly I am taking more than 10 minutes to solve a RC which should me around 8 minutes I guess for a 4 ques RC. I am targeting following timing for Verbal-
SC- (in GMAT 13-15 ques) - 1minute per que = 15 minutes
CR- (in GMAT 11-13 ques) - 2minutes per que = 26 minutes
RC- (in GMAT 4 RC with 4 question in each RC) - 8 minutes per RC = 32 minutes
I haven't attempt any GMAT prep and MGMAT tests yet saving them for later right now doing sectional tests to improve my accuracy and speed.
Let me know if my strategy is correct or not . or what can I do to improve. I want to improve as much as possible before starting giving GMAT prep and MGMAT tests.

Hi,

Apologies for replying late.

Your approach is good, but in my opinion, it rarely works as we think.
Because, for SC when you have reached a 700-800 level question, do you really think that particular question would be solved in a minute?
Provided, if you are an expert in SC, it would.

For RC, we get approx. 3-4 question per RC. I have seldom come across RC's with 4 questions in GMAT.

So, on an average b/w 9 and 16, you can consider 13 question approx for RC,thereby reducing your time.
Try to solve an RC completely within 6 minutes(3 questions per RC) , if you take more than that.. move on..!!!

Your CR strategy is good,but i would suggest that focus more on first 10 questions.

I read it in someone's experience, that GMAT does not expect us to answer all the questions, if we have to skip any question, then we have to because we don't have much time to waste.Also, recently somebody shared that if you focus on first 10 questions, you will find an improvement of 2-3 point.

Try to strengthen your weakness, because for the first 20 questions you have to get to the score you desire and for the rest of the questions you need to maintain that score.

Refer to the gmat prep software analysis i shared in my previous post.


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thanks alot for your detailed suggestion.will surely try to follow it.
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HI Guys,

I have been observing this conversation for a while. Jaiteja , i appreciate the great infos that you have shared. Solanki, i would suggest that before you decide on the time marker, take atleast 2 Mock exams.The reasons behind are many:
1. You know if your mental stamina allows you to take hefty RCs at a later stage or rather during the last 15 minutes of your 4 hours marathon
2. You can generalize q's if you move to a 680+ level, esp the CRs at times get very difficult and needs more attention. Nonetheless, SCs are no easier at such level. Since your target score is 720+ , you should expect to more stunners.

We here can suggest you much more once you have a test analysis. I would suggest take Gmat Prep Test.

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Hi WaterFlowsUp,

I have attempted both GMAT Prep mock test and both the times I got same score with different no of correct ques:
GMATPrep1 - 620 - Q50, V25 (22 Correct and 19 questions incorrect in verbal)
GMATPrep2 - 620 - Q50, V24 (25 Correct and 16 questions incorrect in verbal)

both the times I ecounter very tough RCs. Now I am confused how can I improve my score. I was thinking if I am able to get 28 questions correct in verbal and Q50-51 in quant then I can touch 700 level but now after GMATPrep mocks I am very confused what to do. I am able to do RCs when during practice (mostly 2 out of 3 ques correct).

My GMAT exam is on 12th October (this Saturday). please suggest what I can do in remaining 2-3 days.

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And I got the same score(620, Q50 V25) in GMAT today. Same as in GMATPrep. Very confused what I should do now to improve my Verbal score. Today I got two very lengthy RCs which took most of my time.
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Hii ,

If anyone can explain me the reason behind my scores it will be indeed helpful.
GMat prep exam 2: Score 650 V31 Q 48
Verbal incorrect question numbers: 2,3,9,11,15,18,20,22,23,25,27,31,34,35,36,38,41 Total:17
Quant incorrect question numbers: 1,4,9,11,13,14,17,18,27,31,34,36,37 Total: 13
GMAT prep exam 3: Score 640 V30 Q47
Verbal incorrect question numbers: 1,2,4,9,21,22,26,28,30,34,36,37,39,41 Total: 14
Quant incorrect question numbers: 3,10,11,,13,15,16,18,19,22,26,27,29,30,34,36 Total: 15

Can someone please explain the reason that even though the number of incorrect questions in my verbal has come down in 3rd exam but my score has also come down from 31 to 30. Also, out of initial 20 questions i got 7 wrong and got V31 and when i got 4 wrong, i got V30.
I have my exam within the next two weeks
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Hii ,

If anyone can explain me the reason behind my scores it will be indeed helpful.
GMat prep exam 2: Score 650 V31 Q 48
Verbal incorrect question numbers: 2,3,9,11,15,18,20,22,23,25,27,31,34,35,36,38,41 Total:17
Quant incorrect question numbers: 1,4,9,11,13,14,17,18,27,31,34,36,37 Total: 13
GMAT prep exam 3: Score 640 V30 Q47
Verbal incorrect question numbers: 1,2,4,9,21,22,26,28,30,34,36,37,39,41 Total: 14
Quant incorrect question numbers: 3,10,11,,13,15,16,18,19,22,26,27,29,30,34,36 Total: 15

Can someone please explain the reason that even though the number of incorrect questions in my verbal has come down in 3rd exam but my score has also come down from 31 to 30. Also, out of initial 20 questions i got 7 wrong and got V31 and when i got 4 wrong, i got V30.
I have my exam within the next two weeks

As far the scores are concerned, the scores are consistent.Your accuracy and ability are almost the same on both the exams.Do not try to over-analyse the score because no one accurately knows how the GMAT algorithm works.Instead, identify the mistakes and try to look for a pattern in your mistakes.Also, i think that there is a +/- 30 points variance between the actual GMAT and the GMATPrep exams. No two exams are the same.Improve upon your mistakes and only then attempt GMAT prep exam 4.

If anyone could help you accurately decipher your score, he would make a killing by telling/selling everyone how the algorithm works !!!!! But, unfortunately, everyone has a rough idea about how the algorithm works but no one knows for sure how the algorithm works.. :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D

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Pls Rate my essay WaterFlowsUp

The argument claims that When the Apogee Company had all its operations in one location, it was more profitable than it is today. Therefore, the Apogee Company should close down its field offices and conduct all its operations from a single location. Such centralization would improve profitability by cutting costs and helping the company maintain better supervision of all employees. stated in this way the argument fails to mention several key factors, on the basis of which it could be evaluated. The conclusion relies on assumption, for which there is no clear evidence. Therefore, the argument is rather weak, unconvincing, and has several flaws.

First, the argument readily assumes that because of centralization Apogee was more profitable than it is today. This statement is a stretch and not substantiated in any ways. There are numerous examples in other area of business, where the entities are centralization and rather profitable. For instance, ABC, the internet search engine is decentralised, yet, the search engine is very profitable and successful, maintain better supervision of all employees. Another example is the paralleled Apogee company Decentralization is unprofitable that the argument mentions. But it does not show how centralization increase profitability. The argument would have been much clearer if it is explicitly gave examples of how the apogee company was more profitable than it is today.

Second, the argument claims that centralization would improve profitability by cutting costs and helping the company maintain better supervision of all employees. This again a very weak and unsupported claim as the argument does not demonstrate any correlation between the centralization and cutting cost, maintaining the better supervision of all employees. If any correlation had been shown for the centralization which helps in cost cut and maintain the better supervision of all employees, the argument could have been strengthened even further.

Finally, the argument concludes the Apogee Company should close down its field offices and conduct all its operations from a single location, without supporting evidence and example from other business where centralized company have done improvement in profit and maintained better supervision of all their employee than their competitive decentralized company, one is left with the impression that the claim is more of a wishful thinking rather than substantive evidence. As a result this conclusion has no leg to stand on.

In sum, the argument is flawed and therefore unconvincing. It could be considerably strengthened if the author clearly mentioned all the relevant facts. In order to assess the merits of a certain situation, it is essential to have full knowledge of all contributing factors.
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im very confused....how come i got 440 with 20 wrong answers in verbal and 15 in quant???it shouldnt be that low
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on gmat prep test or some other test?
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should I try to solve all quantitative questions in gmat?
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Currently it is the shortage of time which makes me do mistakes and mainly I am taking more than 10 minutes to solve a RC which should me around 8 minutes I guess for a 4 ques RC. I am targeting following timing for Verbal-
SC- (in GMAT 13-15 ques) - 1minute per que = 15 minutes
CR- (in GMAT 11-13 ques) - 2minutes per que = 26 minutes
RC- (in GMAT 4 RC with 4 question in each RC) - 8 minutes per RC = 32 minutes
I haven't attempt any GMAT prep and MGMAT tests yet saving them for later right now doing sectional tests to improve my accuracy and speed.
Let me know if my strategy is correct or not . or what can I do to improve. I want to improve as much as possible before starting giving GMAT prep and MGMAT tests.

Hi,

Apologies for replying late.

Your approach is good, but in my opinion, it rarely works as we think.
Because, for SC when you have reached a 700-800 level question, do you really think that particular question would be solved in a minute?
Provided, if you are an expert in SC, it would.

For RC, we get approx. 3-4 question per RC. I have seldom come across RC's with 4 questions in GMAT.

So, on an average b/w 9 and 16, you can consider 13 question approx for RC,thereby reducing your time.
Try to solve an RC completely within 6 minutes(3 questions per RC) , if you take more than that.. move on..!!!

Your CR strategy is good,but i would suggest that focus more on first 10 questions.

I read it in someone's experience, that GMAT does not expect us to answer all the questions, if we have to skip any question, then we have to because we don't have much time to waste.Also, recently somebody shared that if you focus on first 10 questions, you will find an improvement of 2-3 point.

Try to strengthen your weakness, because for the first 20 questions you have to get to the score you desire and for the rest of the questions you need to maintain that score.

Refer to the gmat prep software analysis i shared in my previous post.


Thanks,
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But In OG some RC questions have more than 6 questions per passage? what about them?Aren't those passages of GMAT level?
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sahilsnpt - In official guide, you have up to 9 questions per RC passage. That is because these 9 questions cover all the spectrum (i.e. difficulty levels) of questions on that passage. On the test, you get up to 4 questions depending on how your perform. If you solve the easier questions correctly, the test serves you difficult questions.

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sahilsnpt - In official guide, you have up to 9 questions per RC passage. That is because these 9 questions cover all the spectrum (i.e. difficulty levels) of questions on that passage. On the test, you get up to 4 questions depending on how your perform. If you solve the easier questions correctly, the test serves you difficult questions.

I hope this helps.

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Hi All,

Can someone please tell me that in order to get 700 in GMAT how many questions should be right out of 41Q in verbal considering all correct in QA or is it depend on the GMAT adaptive test.

regards,
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Some general estimates:

0 wrong = 50 or 51
1 wrong = 48
2 wrong = 47
3 wrong = 46
4 wrong = 44
5 wrong = 42
6 wrong = 41
7 wrong = 40
etc.

Your 200-800 score is a combination of your Quant and Verbal section scores.

From V46 to V47 to V40 to V42: My GMAT Verbal Journey (with ESRs)

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