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Hello everyone,
Yesterday I retook the GMAT and got a disappointing 680 (Q49, V34). Unhesitatingly cancelled. Even though my quant improved, my verbal sunk by 5 points.
The reason for retaking was that my first attempt (710 Q48 V39), in my opinion, had been influenced by nerves and anxiety resulting from almost being late to the testing centre. I reckoned that a calmer mind and 4 more weeks of study would only do me good. So that is what I did. Scheduled for the 9th of December. Did exclusively official questions, took the EMPOWERgmat score booster course (which helped my quant), watched videos from Ron Purewal and GMATninja. Felt confident and the official CATs backed up that feeling (more on this later). Arrived to the test centre 1 hour and 20 minutes before the start of my exam.
But then reality came and struck me with a 30 point decrease. The quant felt easy, except some questions. I had a similar feeling for verbal up until the middle, when I got a tricky RC passage. From then things went downhill.

The ironic thing is that prior to my first take the scores for the 3rd and 4rd CAT were 670 and 690, respectively. Before yesterday's exam I took CAT 5 and 6, scoring 750 (Q49 V44) and 720 (Q49 V40). Granted, the last passage (last 4 questions of the verbal part) of the 5th CAT was familiar to me, so the verbal should have been V40 or V41, but still, not as low as V34!

I don't know what to do now. Should I retake or apply to schools as I stand?

I would like to get into a Master of Business Analytics/Computational Finance programme in either MIT, UCLA, Duke or Carnegie Mellon.
Background:
-22 years of age, male
-Both Russian and Italian passport
-Finance Major (undergrad)
-Working since August in a data science trainee position
-Company is willing to finance part of my studies

If someone can give me some advice I would really appreciate it.

Best regards,
Ev

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Originally posted by evgenyaleks on 10 Dec 2019, 06:36.
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Hi Ev,

680 with Q49 is a very solid score. Regarding whether to retake the GMAT, you should reach out to one of the many admissions consultants here on GMAT Club:

https://gmatclub.com/forum/ask-admissio ... 4/?fl=menu

If you determine that you need to retake the GMAT, feel free to reach back out, and I’d be happy to help.

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Hi evgenyaleks,

I'm sorry to hear that your second attempt did not turn out better. Both of your Official Scores are fantastic performances though - and I want to reiterate what I mentioned after you scored 710/Q48: you can comfortably apply to any Business Schools with this Score. It might be that this 680/Q49 might be better for you at certain Finance Programs, but that question (and your other concerns) are ultimately application-related, so the most appropriate advice you could receive right now would be from the Admissions Experts here:

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From your performance at CAT 5 and 6 just before your retake, I believe that you have the ability to score higher.

One particularly challenging RC passage should not sink your score that much. It is possible that you were disturbed and could not perform at your best thereafter. Maintaining your composure and focus throughout the test is something you need to address should you decide to take the test again.
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Hey Ev,

Sorry about the drop in the overall score(but the silver lining has to be the increase in Quant score)

I would recommend you order an ESR for the canceled attempt so it might be easier to understand
what are the topics need immediate attention if you are planning for a retake.

Also, we also have an "Ask Admission Consultant" forum which might be in a better choice with regard
to your chances for the course. It will be beneficial if you could include your undergrad and high school
grades and what kind of roles you have played in the jobs(if any)

IMO, the score might be a little less for the schools that you have mentioned(because you have an
Indian passport). That said, there are other aspects of the application with which you can distinguish
your candidature into the above-said schools

Hope that helps!
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Thank you for your replies.
I will indeed address my concern to the admissions experts in the section linked by you.
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From your performance at CAT 5 and 6 just before your retake, I believe that you have the ability to score higher.

One particularly challenging RC passage should not sink your score that much. It is possible that you were disturbed and could not perform at your best thereafter. Maintaining your composure and focus throughout the test is something you need to address should you decide to take the test again.


What I meant to say rather is that the tricky RC passage influenced my concentration and timing, resulting in worse performance in all the later questions. Obviously 4/5 questions (related to the passage) don't result in a 5 point drop, but lower performance in the second half of the verbal section, yes.

Is it possible that at the time of my first take my 'true' level was 690, approximately, and I had 20 point positive variation; after another 4 weeks of study my true level increased to 700/710 but this time the variation brought my score to the lower tail of the distribution?
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Hey Ev,

Sorry about the drop in the overall score(but the silver lining has to be the increase in Quant score)

I would recommend you order an ESR for the canceled attempt so it might be easier to understand
what are the topics need immediate attention if you are planning for a retake.

Also, we also have an "Ask Admission Consultant" forum which might be in a better choice with regard
to your chances for the course. It will be beneficial if you could include your undergrad and high school
grades and what kind of roles you have played in the jobs(if any)

IMO, the score might be a little less for the schools that you have mentioned(because you have an
Indian passport). That said, there are other aspects of the application with which you can distinguish
your candidature into the above-said schools

Hope that helps!


In order to get an ESR for this score I would have to reinstate it, correct? This means that the schools I will eventually apply to will see this score.
I guess there is no way to get an ESR and keep the score 'hidden'.

Also the passports that I mentioned to have are Italian, not Indian, and Russian.
Could this play in my favour?
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Yes, without a doubt. God I am going blind :)

Also, you could order the ESR without actually reinstating your score. So basically it will stay "hidden" after you have ordered the ESR.
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Yes, without a doubt. God I am going blind :)

Also, you could order the ESR without actually reinstating your score. So basically it will stay "hidden" after you have ordered the ESR.


I also get that sometimes, old age! ahah

I just accessed my mba.com and saw the 'ENTER ESR CODE' option. The other day it wasn't there. I will definitely buy it. Would like to understand what was my demise.
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I decided to buy the ESR for this exam just to make sense my tragedy. Just as I expected.
In the first 1/3 of my verbal I was killing it, just as I thought. Then approximately around halfway I got an insane RC. After that it was as though my brain did this:

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Can someone give me an analysis of my 680 ESR?
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evgenyaleks wrote:
Hello ScottTargetTestPrep
Thank you for your replies.
I will indeed address my concern to the admissions experts in the section linked by you.


My pleasure!
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Hi evgenyaleks,

I've sent you a PM with an analysis of your recent ESR and some additional notes.

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