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Updated on: 06 Mar 2020, 17:59
Originally posted by AnthonyRitz on 06 Mar 2020, 08:44.
Last edited by AnthonyRitz on 06 Mar 2020, 17:59, edited 1 time in total.
Last edited by AnthonyRitz on 06 Mar 2020, 17:59, edited 1 time in total.
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varotkorn
Dear AnthonyRitz IanStewart GMATGuruNY DmitryFarber VeritasPrepBrian ccooley,
Is the below explanation correct, especially the highlighted portions?
Is the below explanation correct, especially the highlighted portions?
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-Like means that the items do not include the "like" term (for example "I enjoy sports like kayaking and skiing" - that group of items enjoyed would not include kayaking and skiing)
-Such as means that the terms do include the "such as" term ("I enjoy sports such as kayaking and skiing" means that the person does enjoy kayaking and skiing, as well as other similar sports)
-Such as means that the terms do include the "such as" term ("I enjoy sports such as kayaking and skiing" means that the person does enjoy kayaking and skiing, as well as other similar sports)
Everyone agrees that the second part of this is correct -- "such as" must describe terms that are included in the category given.
However, the first part is disputed -- some sources think that "like" is restricted to terms not included in the category given, but other authorities disagree and feel that "like" can be used in either restrictive or nonrestrictive senses.
I happen to fall in the latter category. In my corner I cite, among others, no less than The New York Times (one of the world's leading authorities on American English grammar) -- which provides, in its own stylebook, for the use of the inclusive "like." One of its editors is, or at least was, "on the fence": https://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/29/busi ... itors.html (ctrl-f "such as").
But regardless of my personal view, I don't think the GMAT would touch this issue with a ten-foot pole. Disputed areas of the language are very much avoided by the testmakers. So I'm quite confident that no official GMAT question will ever rule an answer incorrect because it (arguably) "misuses" the word "like" in an inclusive manner.
06 Mar 2020, 17:36
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Dear AnthonyRitz,
I would like to add that OG also contains the inclusive "like," in the non-underlined portion though.
Especially in the early years, new entrepreneurs may need to find resourceful ways, like renting temporary office space or using answering services, to make their companies seem larger and more firmly established than they may actually be.
I would like to add that OG also contains the inclusive "like," in the non-underlined portion though.
Especially in the early years, new entrepreneurs may need to find resourceful ways, like renting temporary office space or using answering services, to make their companies seem larger and more firmly established than they may actually be.
06 Mar 2020, 17:54
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Dear AnthonyRitz,
I would like to add that OG also contains the inclusive "like," in the non-underlined portion though.
Especially in the early years, new entrepreneurs may need to find resourceful ways, like renting temporary office space or using answering services, to make their companies seem larger and more firmly established than they may actually be.
I would like to add that OG also contains the inclusive "like," in the non-underlined portion though.
Especially in the early years, new entrepreneurs may need to find resourceful ways, like renting temporary office space or using answering services, to make their companies seem larger and more firmly established than they may actually be.
Sure, that's fine. It can be present; it will just never be tested. The non-underlined portion is something you just have to live with. But it does go to show that people do this all the time in actual usage.
Good catch!
