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Hi all,

Now that I am done with GMAT its time to share my experience for the benefit of others. I am an Indian male working in the US in the medical devices field.

I started GMAT prep a couple of months back. I gave a GMAT prep mock cold without any prep to gauge my level and got 730 which wasn't too surprising as I had a 331 GRE without much prep and had seen that its equivalence is about 740. Since I had given the test very casually even checking Facebook a couple of times in middle of the test, so I thought the score was fine.

I started preparing with Magoosh and did mostly verbal from there. Didn't remember most of the terms they used such as adverbial clause and stuff. After completing about 70 percent of Magoosh Verbal I started reading Manhattan SC book and after going through it once started solving OG. In the meantime I was giving GMAT prep every week.

Since I had given the first GMAT prep a month ago I reset it and started.

My GMAT scores were:
Prep 1: 750
Prep 2: 760
Prep 3: 750 again disappointing
Prep 4: 740 highly disappointing. Got only one question wrong in Maths but the result was same as always Q50
Prep 5: 770 Q50 V44 Now we are talking
Prep 6: 770 Q50 V46 Good going
Reset Default prep tests and gave them again
Prep 7: 770 Q50 V44

At this point I was less than 2 weeks from the test and I was trying to find any weaknesses to prepare. However my verbal scores were kinda erratic. I had in one tst bad RC score however in the next RC was 51. Similarly for CR.
So I just revised a few chapters from Manhattan SC book and watched Ron Purewal videos. Also I was in exception territory by this point for SC and this affected my performance as I wouldn't immediately eliminate using touch rule and stuff like that.

Last prep 760 Q50 V42 I felt I was going down. As you can see Verbal was coming down continuously.

Then came the test day. Appointment was 12.15, I reached by 11.15 and test started at 11.30. Perfect room temperature so had no problems there. Maths felt pretty easy. Except 1 question I am pretty sure all rest were correct. Verbal was tough and I couldn't tell how much I would get.

Ended up getting Q51 which I had never got, but good that I got as it compensated for lower Verbal score of 42 ensuring 770. I feel like hitting peak timing of giving GMAT is important. I had rescheduled GMAT and I think if I had got a date 10 days earlier I could have got V44 or 46 and who knows might have got 780. But anyways for all purposes my score is fine and I am glad to be done with this.

I am planning to apply to IIMs via the overseas route.

Some things which helped me: Ron Purewal videos for parallelism completely cleared that concept for me.
Manhattan SC book must read.
Powerscore CR Bible also must read. Apart from this just do OG especially the last quarter of SC questions are really good. Also buy the extra questions and tests and do them. Nothing else is required.
AWA just used Chineseburned format.
Also special mention to GMAT Ninja. That guy is really good. Saw some of his videos and some of his responses on a few difficult parallelism questions. His way of analyzing the parallelism and the question was awesome.
Another thing in Maths in coordinate geometry I got question about perpendicular lines. Since I am an engineer I know that slopes of perpendicular lines when multiplied give -1 but I dont think this is taught at GMAT level.
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Holy crap, congratulations on the eye-popping score! 770? Dude, you could get a job working for a GMAT test-prep company with a score like that. But I have a funny feeling that this b-school thing is going to work out just fine for you. :-D

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Wow! That is a good score. Congratulations :clap:

We would really appreciate it if you would give us a low-down on the types of questions you got in Verbal..
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New post 27 Jul 2017, 06:30
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Hi all,

Now that I am done with GMAT its time to share my experience for the benefit of others. I am an Indian male working in the US in the medical devices field.

I started GMAT prep a couple of months back. I gave a GMAT prep mock cold without any prep to gauge my level and got 730 which wasn't too surprising as I had a 331 GRE without much prep and had seen that its equivalence is about 740. Since I had given the test very casually even checking Facebook a couple of times in middle of the test, so I thought the score was fine.

I started preparing with Magoosh and did mostly verbal from there. Didn't remember most of the terms they used such as adverbial clause and stuff. After completing about 70 percent of Magoosh Verbal I started reading Manhattan SC book and after going through it once started solving OG. In the meantime I was giving GMAT prep every week.

Since I had given the first GMAT prep a month ago I reset it and started.

My GMAT scores were:
Prep 1: 750
Prep 2: 760
Prep 3: 750 again disappointing
Prep 4: 740 highly disappointing. Got only one question wrong in Maths but the result was same as always Q50
Prep 5: 770 Q50 V44 Now we are talking
Prep 6: 770 Q50 V46 Good going
Reset Default prep tests and gave them again
Prep 7: 770 Q50 V44

At this point I was less than 2 weeks from the test and I was trying to find any weaknesses to prepare. However my verbal scores were kinda erratic. I had in one tst bad RC score however in the next RC was 51. Similarly for CR.
So I just revised a few chapters from Manhattan SC book and watched Ron Purewal videos. Also I was in exception territory by this point for SC and this affected my performance as I wouldn't immediately eliminate using touch rule and stuff like that.

Last prep 760 Q50 V42 I felt I was going down. As you can see Verbal was coming down continuously.

Then came the test day. Appointment was 12.15, I reached by 11.15 and test started at 11.30. Perfect room temperature so had no problems there. Maths felt pretty easy. Except 1 question I am pretty sure all rest were correct. Verbal was tough and I couldn't tell how much I would get.

Ended up getting Q51 which I had never got, but good that I got as it compensated for lower Verbal score of 42 ensuring 770. I feel like hitting peak timing of giving GMAT is important. I had rescheduled GMAT and I think if I had got a date 10 days earlier I could have got V44 or 46 and who knows might have got 780. But anyways for all purposes my score is fine and I am glad to be done with this.

I am planning to apply to IIMs via the overseas route.

Some things which helped me: Ron Purewal videos for parallelism completely cleared that concept for me.
Manhattan SC book must read.
Powerscore CR Bible also must read. Apart from this just do OG especially the last quarter of SC questions are really good. Also buy the extra questions and tests and do them. Nothing else is required.
AWA just used Chineseburned format.
Also special mention to GMAT Ninja. That guy is really good. Saw some of his videos and some of his responses on a few difficult parallelism questions. His way of analyzing the parallelism and the question was awesome.
Another thing in Maths in coordinate geometry I got question about perpendicular lines. Since I am an engineer I know that slopes of perpendicular lines when multiplied give -1 but I dont think this is taught at GMAT level.


God gracious , you seemed to be "born GMAT killer" !! Just for the benefit of other souls, please explain your strategy for RCs. Are you a veracious reader ? What all non-GMAT material did you read ? Congrats on your great score again :)
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Wow! That is a good score. Congratulations :clap:

We would really appreciate it if you would give us a low-down on the types of questions you got in Verbal..


Pretty much hard SC questions in which all sentences have different structures and no easy splits or similar structure. Don't remember the other two sections since I don't find any particular type of question hard in CR or RC so nothing struck out. In fact I find boldface questions easier than assumption ones which is kind of contrary to most people. Also probably remember SC more as I spent more time on it. My scores towards the last few GMAT prep were erratic in the sense that I had gotten very high RC -51 SC -49 CR -51 and low scores as well in next or previous exams. I guess when only a few questions are wrong if they all turn out to be one type it punishes that score heavily. So I just stuck to SC prep.

Originally posted by valyrian on 27 Jul 2017, 13:56.
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valyrian wrote:
Hi all,

Now that I am done with GMAT its time to share my experience for the benefit of others. I am an Indian male working in the US in the medical devices field.

I started GMAT prep a couple of months back. I gave a GMAT prep mock cold without any prep to gauge my level and got 730 which wasn't too surprising as I had a 331 GRE without much prep and had seen that its equivalence is about 740. Since I had given the test very casually even checking Facebook a couple of times in middle of the test, so I thought the score was fine.

I started preparing with Magoosh and did mostly verbal from there. Didn't remember most of the terms they used such as adverbial clause and stuff. After completing about 70 percent of Magoosh Verbal I started reading Manhattan SC book and after going through it once started solving OG. In the meantime I was giving GMAT prep every week.

Since I had given the first GMAT prep a month ago I reset it and started.

My GMAT scores were:
Prep 1: 750
Prep 2: 760
Prep 3: 750 again disappointing
Prep 4: 740 highly disappointing. Got only one question wrong in Maths but the result was same as always Q50
Prep 5: 770 Q50 V44 Now we are talking
Prep 6: 770 Q50 V46 Good going
Reset Default prep tests and gave them again
Prep 7: 770 Q50 V44

At this point I was less than 2 weeks from the test and I was trying to find any weaknesses to prepare. However my verbal scores were kinda erratic. I had in one tst bad RC score however in the next RC was 51. Similarly for CR.
So I just revised a few chapters from Manhattan SC book and watched Ron Purewal videos. Also I was in exception territory by this point for SC and this affected my performance as I wouldn't immediately eliminate using touch rule and stuff like that.

Last prep 760 Q50 V42 I felt I was going down. As you can see Verbal was coming down continuously.

Then came the test day. Appointment was 12.15, I reached by 11.15 and test started at 11.30. Perfect room temperature so had no problems there. Maths felt pretty easy. Except 1 question I am pretty sure all rest were correct. Verbal was tough and I couldn't tell how much I would get.

Ended up getting Q51 which I had never got, but good that I got as it compensated for lower Verbal score of 42 ensuring 770. I feel like hitting peak timing of giving GMAT is important. I had rescheduled GMAT and I think if I had got a date 10 days earlier I could have got V44 or 46 and who knows might have got 780. But anyways for all purposes my score is fine and I am glad to be done with this.

I am planning to apply to IIMs via the overseas route.

Some things which helped me: Ron Purewal videos for parallelism completely cleared that concept for me.
Manhattan SC book must read.
Powerscore CR Bible also must read. Apart from this just do OG especially the last quarter of SC questions are really good. Also buy the extra questions and tests and do them. Nothing else is required.
AWA just used Chineseburned format.
Also special mention to GMAT Ninja. That guy is really good. Saw some of his videos and some of his responses on a few difficult parallelism questions. His way of analyzing the parallelism and the question was awesome.
Another thing in Maths in coordinate geometry I got question about perpendicular lines. Since I am an engineer I know that slopes of perpendicular lines when multiplied give -1 but I dont think this is taught at GMAT level.


God gracious , you seemed to be "born GMAT killer" !! Just for the benefit of other souls, please explain your strategy for RCs. Are you a veracious reader ? What all non-GMAT material did you read ? Congrats on your great score again :)


RC pretty much read the whole passage and went for questions. Didn't even follow the prep companies advice to skim through details since I am a fast reader. I like reading novels . The last series I read is Wheel of Time which is a 14 book epic fantasy series by Robert Jordon.

Originally posted by valyrian on 27 Jul 2017, 13:58.
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Holy crap, congratulations on the eye-popping score! 770? Dude, you could get a job working for a GMAT test-prep company with a score like that. But I have a funny feeling that this b-school thing is going to work out just fine for you. :-D

And thank you for the shout-out! Good to know that somebody is watching out there. :)

Congratulations again, and please let us know which MBA program is smart enough to take you!


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Hi all,

Now that I am done with GMAT its time to share my experience for the benefit of others. I am an Indian male working in the US in the medical devices field.

I started GMAT prep a couple of months back. I gave a GMAT prep mock cold without any prep to gauge my level and got 730 which wasn't too surprising as I had a 331 GRE without much prep and had seen that its equivalence is about 740. Since I had given the test very casually even checking Facebook a couple of times in middle of the test, so I thought the score was fine.

I started preparing with Magoosh and did mostly verbal from there. Didn't remember most of the terms they used such as adverbial clause and stuff. After completing about 70 percent of Magoosh Verbal I started reading Manhattan SC book and after going through it once started solving OG. In the meantime I was giving GMAT prep every week.

Since I had given the first GMAT prep a month ago I reset it and started.

My GMAT scores were:
Prep 1: 750
Prep 2: 760
Prep 3: 750 again disappointing
Prep 4: 740 highly disappointing. Got only one question wrong in Maths but the result was same as always Q50
Prep 5: 770 Q50 V44 Now we are talking
Prep 6: 770 Q50 V46 Good going
Reset Default prep tests and gave them again
Prep 7: 770 Q50 V44

At this point I was less than 2 weeks from the test and I was trying to find any weaknesses to prepare. However my verbal scores were kinda erratic. I had in one tst bad RC score however in the next RC was 51. Similarly for CR.
So I just revised a few chapters from Manhattan SC book and watched Ron Purewal videos. Also I was in exception territory by this point for SC and this affected my performance as I wouldn't immediately eliminate using touch rule and stuff like that.

Last prep 760 Q50 V42 I felt I was going down. As you can see Verbal was coming down continuously.

Then came the test day. Appointment was 12.15, I reached by 11.15 and test started at 11.30. Perfect room temperature so had no problems there. Maths felt pretty easy. Except 1 question I am pretty sure all rest were correct. Verbal was tough and I couldn't tell how much I would get.

Ended up getting Q51 which I had never got, but good that I got as it compensated for lower Verbal score of 42 ensuring 770. I feel like hitting peak timing of giving GMAT is important. I had rescheduled GMAT and I think if I had got a date 10 days earlier I could have got V44 or 46 and who knows might have got 780. But anyways for all purposes my score is fine and I am glad to be done with this.

I am planning to apply to IIMs via the overseas route.

Some things which helped me: Ron Purewal videos for parallelism completely cleared that concept for me.
Manhattan SC book must read.
Powerscore CR Bible also must read. Apart from this just do OG especially the last quarter of SC questions are really good. Also buy the extra questions and tests and do them. Nothing else is required.
AWA just used Chineseburned format.
Also special mention to GMAT Ninja. That guy is really good. Saw some of his videos and some of his responses on a few difficult parallelism questions. His way of analyzing the parallelism and the question was awesome.
Another thing in Maths in coordinate geometry I got question about perpendicular lines. Since I am an engineer I know that slopes of perpendicular lines when multiplied give -1 but I dont think this is taught at GMAT level.

Surely a jaw dropping score man! You are clearly made for these type is tests.

The point where you mentioned about hard SC questions, were those questions similar to hard questions we get in OG, GMAT Prep?

Also any specific strategy to deal with such hard questions?
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valyrian wrote:
Hi all,

Now that I am done with GMAT its time to share my experience for the benefit of others. I am an Indian male working in the US in the medical devices field.

I started GMAT prep a couple of months back. I gave a GMAT prep mock cold without any prep to gauge my level and got 730 which wasn't too surprising as I had a 331 GRE without much prep and had seen that its equivalence is about 740. Since I had given the test very casually even checking Facebook a couple of times in middle of the test, so I thought the score was fine.

I started preparing with Magoosh and did mostly verbal from there. Didn't remember most of the terms they used such as adverbial clause and stuff. After completing about 70 percent of Magoosh Verbal I started reading Manhattan SC book and after going through it once started solving OG. In the meantime I was giving GMAT prep every week.

Since I had given the first GMAT prep a month ago I reset it and started.

My GMAT scores were:
Prep 1: 750
Prep 2: 760
Prep 3: 750 again disappointing
Prep 4: 740 highly disappointing. Got only one question wrong in Maths but the result was same as always Q50
Prep 5: 770 Q50 V44 Now we are talking
Prep 6: 770 Q50 V46 Good going
Reset Default prep tests and gave them again
Prep 7: 770 Q50 V44

At this point I was less than 2 weeks from the test and I was trying to find any weaknesses to prepare. However my verbal scores were kinda erratic. I had in one tst bad RC score however in the next RC was 51. Similarly for CR.
So I just revised a few chapters from Manhattan SC book and watched Ron Purewal videos. Also I was in exception territory by this point for SC and this affected my performance as I wouldn't immediately eliminate using touch rule and stuff like that.

Last prep 760 Q50 V42 I felt I was going down. As you can see Verbal was coming down continuously.

Then came the test day. Appointment was 12.15, I reached by 11.15 and test started at 11.30. Perfect room temperature so had no problems there. Maths felt pretty easy. Except 1 question I am pretty sure all rest were correct. Verbal was tough and I couldn't tell how much I would get.

Ended up getting Q51 which I had never got, but good that I got as it compensated for lower Verbal score of 42 ensuring 770. I feel like hitting peak timing of giving GMAT is important. I had rescheduled GMAT and I think if I had got a date 10 days earlier I could have got V44 or 46 and who knows might have got 780. But anyways for all purposes my score is fine and I am glad to be done with this.

I am planning to apply to IIMs via the overseas route.

Some things which helped me: Ron Purewal videos for parallelism completely cleared that concept for me.
Manhattan SC book must read.
Powerscore CR Bible also must read. Apart from this just do OG especially the last quarter of SC questions are really good. Also buy the extra questions and tests and do them. Nothing else is required.
AWA just used Chineseburned format.
Also special mention to GMAT Ninja. That guy is really good. Saw some of his videos and some of his responses on a few difficult parallelism questions. His way of analyzing the parallelism and the question was awesome.
Another thing in Maths in coordinate geometry I got question about perpendicular lines. Since I am an engineer I know that slopes of perpendicular lines when multiplied give -1 but I dont think this is taught at GMAT level.

Surely a jaw dropping score man! You are clearly made for these type is tests.

The point where you mentioned about hard SC questions, were those questions similar to hard questions we get in OG, GMAT Prep?

Also any specific strategy to deal with such hard questions?


Yes definitely the last quarter of OG SC questions and the hard questions in the question pack you can buy are all very good and must be done. No specific strategy just practice them and then see every question why each answer choice is wrong both via the official answer explanations and gmat club explanations. It takes time to analyse these very good questions.
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Yes definitely the last quarter of OG SC questions and the hard questions in the question pack you can buy are all very good and must be done. No specific strategy just practice them and then see every question why each answer choice is wrong both via the official answer explanations and gmat club explanations. It takes time to analyse these very good questions.


Got it, thank you valyrian and wish you all the best for applications.
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