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09 Sep 2011, 10:02
Guys, one question...is the word 'the' correct in (A) ??
setting free more than... sounds better than setting free the more than... ..can anyone shed some light on the word 'the' ??
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10 Sep 2011, 02:20
In "more than 500 slaves" more than 500 acts an adjective that modifies the noun slaves.

So, setting free the "more than 500 slaves" can be simply interpreted as setting free the slaves.

A is correct.
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10 Sep 2011, 06:46
raghavakumar85 wrote:
In "more than 500 slaves" more than 500 acts an adjective that modifies the noun slaves.

So, setting free the "more than 500 slaves" can be simply interpreted as setting free the slaves.

A is correct.

Raghavakumar85, i m still nt convinced..coz i have nvr seens such use of the...care to explain with an example??
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12 Sep 2011, 16:47
I picked B, but I understand why A is correct. Thank you.

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27 Sep 2011, 19:23
B,C,E - Out. "Considered as" is an incorrect idiom.

A & D - D is out because of the use of and which alters the meaning of sentence by suggesting that two different actions took place which stunned his family & friends.

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13 Oct 2011, 01:30
Even I was torn between A and D. A is more relevant of "the" is not there. Picked D solely for this reason. Can some experts comment on this please.
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13 Oct 2011, 03:53
I went with B, but after reading the exxplanations.. I believe A is correct. Moving "the" changes the true meaning of the sentence.

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29 Oct 2011, 06:54
The mistake I have done was, I was not able to understand that the second clause is qualifying "emancipation" rather than introducing a new clause.

How do you differentiate between these two based on this question? How do you know whether the second part is introducing new clause or qualifying "emancipation"? "stunned his family.." is parallel with "set free more.."

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29 Oct 2011, 06:56
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349. In 1791 Robert Carter III, one of the wealthiest plantation owners in Virginia, stunned his family, friends, and neighbors by filing a deed of emancipation, setting free the more than 500 slaves who were legally considered his property.
(A) setting free the more than 500 slaves who were legally considered
(B) setting free more than the 500 slaves legally considered as
(C) and set free more than 500 slaves, who were legally considered as
(D) and set free more than the 500 slaves who were legally considered
(E) and he set free the more than 500 slaves who were legally considered as

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A wins. Considered as is wrong idiom. Hence B,C and E are eliminated. Between A and D, D conveys the wrong meaning.

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30 Oct 2011, 20:58
"the" in A makes the sentence sound weird.

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I chose C first but agree that "Considered" does not require "as".
Could some one please elaborate how "the more than 500" is correct? Use of "the" seems odd.

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03 Sep 2012, 15:47
In 1791 Robert Carter III, one of the wealthiest plantation owners in Virginia, stunned his family, friends, and neighbors by filing a deed of emancipation, setting free the more than 500 slaves who were legally considered his property.
(A) setting free the more than 500 slaves who were legally considered
(B) setting free more than the 500 slaves legally considered as
(C) and set free more than 500 slaves, who were legally considered as
(D) and set free more than the 500 slaves who were legally considered
(E) and he set free the more than 500 slaves who were legally considered as

Okay,

I understand 'consider as' is unidiomatic.
Between A and B, the usage of 'the' I can't seem to figure out.

It seems like some kind of limiting meaning.

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03 Sep 2012, 16:15
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In 1791 Robert Carter III, one of the wealthiest plantation owners in Virginia, stunned his family, friends, and neighbors by filing a deed of emancipation, setting free the more than 500 slaves who were legally considered his property.
(A) setting free the more than 500 slaves who were legally considered
(B) setting free more than the 500 slaves legally considered as
(C) and set free more than 500 slaves, who were legally considered as
(D) and set free more than the 500 slaves who were legally considered
(E) and he set free the more than 500 slaves who were legally considered as

Okay,

I understand 'consider as' is unidiomatic.
Between A and B, the usage of 'the' I can't seem to figure out.

It seems like some kind of limiting meaning.

IMO, I don't see anything wrong in usage of 'the'. In this Question the answer is between A & B. And since B can be eliminated the winner is A.

More over we always use 'the' article to stress upon the noun. For example: 1) This is a piece of paper. (Means a normal piece of paper)
2) This is the piece of paper. (Means a particular or special piece)
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Let’s take you have more than 500 flowers and you want to sell all of them. Then we say that you want to sell the more than 500 flowers.
In the second case, you have more than 600 or 700 flowers, but you want to sell only just more than 500 flowers, say 550 or so , retaining the others. In this case, we will say that you want to sell more than the 500 flowers.
In the given topic the in A before more stresses that he set free all his 500 and odd slaves, while D implies that he retained some. This is not the intended meaning. If he wanted emancipate slaves, why would ha have retained a few alone?
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06 Sep 2012, 09:31
I picked B but then realized that A is the answer due to the correct usage of idiom.
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In 1791 Robert Carter III, one of the wealthiest plantation owners in Virginia, stunned his family, friends, and neighbors by filing a deed of emancipation, setting free the more than 500 slaves who were legally considered his property.

(A) setting free the more than 500 slaves who were legally considered >> though it may seem a bit lengthy, actually it correctly conveys the meaning.
(B) setting free more than the 500 slaves legally considered as >> "consider as his property" is wordy. "Considered his property" is correct and concise. I also followed 'ear test' that I am trying to develop to train my ears.

(C) and set free more than 500 slaves, who were legally considered as >> parallelism problem
(D) and set free more than the 500 slaves who were legally considered >> parallelism problem
(E) and he set free the more than 500 slaves who were legally considered as >> parallelism problem
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349. In 1791 Robert Carter III, one of the wealthiest plantation owners in Virginia, stunned his family, friends, and neighbors by filing a deed of emancipation, setting free the more than 500 slaves who were legally considered his property.
(A) setting free the more than 500 slaves who were legally considered
(B) setting free more than the 500 slaves legally considered as
(C) and set free more than 500 slaves, who were legally considered as
(D) and set free more than the 500 slaves who were legally considered
(E) and he set free the more than 500 slaves who were legally considered as

explain

A it is.
Basically 'setting free the more ...' is an end modifier introduced by a present participle which is clearly refering to the verb "stunned".
therefore Robert carter III stunned his family by filing a deed of emancipation, setting free the more than 500 slaves.....

It is an IC,DC type sentence.

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ugimba wrote:
349. In 1791 Robert Carter III, one of the wealthiest plantation owners in Virginia, stunned his family, friends, and neighbors by filing a deed of emancipation, setting free the more than 500 slaves who were legally considered his property.
(A) setting free the more than 500 slaves who were legally considered
(B) setting free more than the 500 slaves legally considered as
(C) and set free more than 500 slaves, who were legally considered as
(D) and set free more than the 500 slaves who were legally considered
(E) and he set free the more than 500 slaves who were legally considered as

explain

+1 A.

Modifier problem.
C, D, E are out because of non-parallelism.
B is out because "considered as" is not idiomatic.
A wins.
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ugimba wrote:
349. In 1791 Robert Carter III, one of the wealthiest plantation owners in Virginia, stunned his family, friends, and neighbors by filing a deed of emancipation, setting free the more than 500 slaves who were legally considered his property.
(A) setting free the more than 500 slaves who were legally considered
(B) setting free more than the 500 slaves legally considered as
(C) and set free more than 500 slaves, who were legally considered as
(D) and set free more than the 500 slaves who were legally considered
(E) and he set free the more than 500 slaves who were legally considered as

I am confused between the use of " the more than 500 slaves" and "more than the 500 slaves"

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25 Aug 2013, 20:25
Here i know consider as is wrong idiom, correct idiom is consider x,y. OG explanation says that B and D states Carter freed slaves that were not his own, my question is that how this change in meaning?

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