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In its most recent approach, the comet Crommelin passed the Earth at about the same distance and in about the same position, some 25 degrees above the horizon, that Halley’s comet will pass the next time it appears.

(A) that Halley’s comet will pass
(B) that Halley’s comet is to be passing
(C) as Halley’s comet
(D) as will Halley’s comet
(E) as Halley’s comet will do
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Hey All,

I got asked to take this one on by PM, so here I am!

In its most recent approach, the comet Crommelin passed the Earth at about the same distance and in about the same position, some 25 degrees above the horizon, that Halley’s comet will pass the next time it appears.

This is a comparison question, so you have to make sure you're comparing the right two thing.

(A) that Halley’s comet will pass
PROBLEM: This would lead us to think that Halley's comet will pass the distance and position that Crommelin did. That isn't right. It should be PASSING at the distance and position that Crommelin did.

(B) that Halley’s comet is to be passing
PROBLEM: Same as above, "is to be passing" is not a correct construction. Just gibberish, really.

(C) as Halley’s comet
PROBLEM: You can't use "as" without a clause, and there's no verb after the comma in this choice.

(D) as will Halley’s comet
ANSWER: Now we have a verb, so "as" is correct. It's also now clear that we're comparing CLAUSES (the ACT of passing).

(E) as Halley’s comet will do
PROBLEM: "do" is trying to stand in for the verb "to pass" (because that's the action we're comparing: passing), which doesn't make any sense. You can't say "will do pass," but you can say "will pass" (which is why D is correct).

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In its most recent approach, the comet Crommelin passed the Earth at about the same distance and in about the same position, some 25 degrees above the horizon, that Halley’s comet will pass the next time it appears.

(A) that Halley’s comet will pass
(B) that Halley’s comet is to be passing
(C) as Halley’s comet
(D) as will Halley’s comet
(E) as Halley’s comet will do

plz expln rule/concept if possible. :-D Thanks


My sentence rewrite:

The comet Crommelin passed the Earth at about the same distance and in about the same position that Halley’s comet will pass the next time it appears.

(A) that Halley’s comet will pass
(B) that Halley’s comet is to be passing
(C) as Halley’s comet (missing future tense)
(D) as will Halley’s comet
(E) as Halley’s comet will do
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Mighty convoluted +1 for the question.

I pick D for ellipsis.

Same position as will Halley's comet sounds better than
same position that Halley's comet will pass.

Although it could well be A .... :oops:

About time the OA comes out.
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In its most recent approach, the comet Crommelin passed the Earth at about the same distance and in about the same position, some 25 degrees above the horizon, that Halley’s comet will pass the next time it appears.

(A) that Halley’s comet will pass - that modifies horizon, so incorrect.
(B) that Halley’s comet is to be passing- changes the meaning - sounds like it's about to pass it.
(C) as Halley’s comet- "as" required a subject and a verb
(D) as will Halley’s comet
(E) as Halley’s comet will do-is less concise than D
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We need 'as' for comparing clauses. That leaves C, D and E

we are comparing the below two:

the comet Crommelin passed
as Halley’s comet will [pass] or [passed].......

We are talking about future......Halley's comet will pass

As given, E will read....."comet Crommelin passed.......as Halley’s comet will do [pass]" - 'do' is present tense and needs 'pass' in present tense. When we use 'do' or 'did' it should be parallel with the earlier clause. Also, "will [do] [pass]" is unnecessary.

In option E....the following would have been correct.......the comet Crommelin passed......as Halley’s comet did [passed] - 'did' is past tense and would have been parallel to "comet Crommelin passed".

In option D.....as will Halley’s comet [pass] is correct because it is not using 'do'

In its most recent approach, the comet Crommelin passed the Earth at about the same distance and in about the same position, some 25 degrees above the horizon, that Halley’s comet will pass the next time it appears.

(A) that Halley’s comet will pass
(B) that Halley’s comet is to be passing
(C) as Halley’s comet - incomplete. 'as Halley's comet' what???
(D) as will Halley’s comet [pass] - CORRECT
(E) as Halley’s comet will do - see above
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IMO D.
E seems wrong because of WILL DO - which shows a working verb performed by commet.
But the sentence compares the comet just passes but not perform. (state of being but not action).
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Idiom : Same - As

In its most recent approach, the comet Crommelin passed the Earth at about the same distance and in about the same position, some 25 degrees above the horizon, that Halley’s comet will pass the next time it appears.

(A) that Halley’s comet will pass
(B) that Halley’s comet is to be passing
(C) as Halley’s comet - Compares passing of Crommelin with the comet Halleys
(D) as will Halley’s comet - correct
(E) as Halley’s comet will do - Error of ellipses! "do" implies "passed" as mentioned in original sentence but should imply "pass" as in "will pass"
Answer - D
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Clearly the choice is between E&D.
The concept tested is of ellipses.
In its most recent approach, the comet Crommelin passed the Earth at about the same distance and in about the same position, some 25 degrees above the horizon, that Halley’s comet will pass the next time it appears.

(A) that Halley’s comet will pass - that can never replace a part of sentence.
(B) that Halley’s comet is to be passing- that can never replace a part of sentence.
(C) as Halley’s comet - action of Crommelin compared with another commet
(D) as will Halley’s comet
(E) as Halley’s comet will do
Now to D/E
In E do is in present tens while in the main sentence "In its most recent approach, the comet Crommelin passed the Earth" - "passed" is in pass tens. Therefore this ellipses is wrong.
D avoids this contradiction hence is the better option.
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Dear fellow aspirants although I messed up my gmat in my last atempts, I am trying to bell it this time.Here's my take on halley's comet.

In its most recent approach, the comet Crommelin passed the Earth at about the same distance and in about the same position, some 25 degrees above the horizon, that Halley’s comet will passthe next time it appears.

(A) that Halley’s comet will pass
(B) that Halley’s comet is to be passing
(C) as Halley’s comet
(D) as will Halley’s comet
(E) as Halley’s comet will do

here we use as because we are comparing passing of comets.
Between Dand E I don't know why is D correct I opted for E because both comets are parallel to each other.after the coma and both passed and will are also parallel.

Kindly help me out wih this one.




We can rule out A and B bcoz thr is a " , " before that.


(A) that Halley’s comet will pass
(B) that Halley’s comet is to be passing
(C) as Halley’s comet - awkward
(D) as will Halley’s comet
(E) as Halley’s comet will do incorrect bcoz appears signifies the position of comet is getting compared.(correct me if i m wrong)
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In its most recent approach, the comet Crommelin passed the Earth at about the same distance and in about the same position, some 25 degrees above the horizon, that Halley’s comet will pass the next time it appears.

(A) that Halley’s comet will pass
(B) that Halley’s comet is to be passing
(C) as Halley’s comet--> changes the meaning
(D) as will Halley’s comet
(E) as Halley’s comet will do--> use of "do" is incorrect here use "will" is sufficient for the implied comparison.

"That" is used without comma because the clause it introduces is essential one, hence A and B are wrong.

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Source of the text in PINK: MGMAT discussion board.

The problem with answer choice E is that, by including the helping verb will, the primary verb pass is already inplied. Thus, answer choice E actually "reads" the comet Crommelin passed the Earth at about the same distance and in about the same position as Halley's comet will do pass the next time it appears. Thus, the verb do is both unnecessary and is not parallel to the verb pass

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Now, Here is MY take on OPTION (A) :
(A) that Halley’s comet will pass

Let's try to understand what the word "that" refer to ?

In its most recent approach, the comet Crommelin passed the Earth at about the same distance and in about the same position, some 25 degrees above the horizon,that Halley’s comet will pass the next time it appears.

Let's remove the modifier that is enclosed within the commas. Remember that when you throw out the modifier, the commas go out the window too.
Voila, the word "that" DOESN'T refer to horizon, instead "that" refers to position.

In its most recent approach, the comet Crommelin passed the Earth at about the same distance and in about the same position that Halley’s comet will pass the next time it appears.

The problem that i have this version of the sentence is that , the word "that" now refers exclusively to position and loses reference to the fact that the "distances" are also being compared. The intent of the original sentence is to compare the similarity in aspects of DISTANCE and POSITON, while the newer version of the sentence only conveys the similarity in the position.

The following excerpt colored in green has been taken from e-gmat blogs.
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Grammatically COMMA + THAT is not correct usage. By definition ‘that clause’ presents required information or essential information and hence cannot be separated from the entity that it modifies by using a comma.
However this does not mean that you can never see a comma prior to that. When you do see comma before that, you will see a comma pair. In such cases non-essential information or additional information will be sandwiched between this comma pair. The sentence structure will look something like this:
Noun,noun-modifier,that clause
In the above structure, comma does not separate ‘that clause’ from its ‘noun’. The complete comma pair is used to separate out the ‘noun modifier’. Lets review this with some examples:
Oprah Winfrey hosts a talk show that has won multiple awards. – Correct
Oprah Winfrey hosts a talk show, that has won multiple awards. – Incorrect
Oprah Winfrey hosts a talk show,considered the highest-rated program of its kind in history, that has won multiple awards. Correct

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I got it wrong as A. I went through the MGMAT experts' comment but still couldn't understand completely. So, this is my attempt to independently decipher this question.

In its most recent approach, the comet Crommelin passed the Earth at about the same distance and in about the same position, some 25 degrees above the horizon, that Halley’s comet will pass the next time it appears.

(A) that Halley’s comet will pass
(B) that Halley’s comet is to be passing
(C) as Halley’s comet
(D) as will Halley’s comet
(E) as Halley’s comet will do

Some points to think about:
1) About the same X as Y -- this convention needs to be followed for comparison's sake.
2) The author intends to say that both comets passed through the same location and in about the same position.
3) WILL or WILL PASS are both correct usages in this case. WILL PASS is implied in the case where WILL is used as a standalone.

Note: My feeling here is that you cannot simply use a THAT vs. AS split because THAT by itself is not a problem here. The actual problem here is the main verb PASSED and the comparison verb which is WILL or WILL PASS.

To make a comparison smooth and seamless, the OG advices to have X and Y (two things to be compared) to be as close to the comparator word in this case which is AS.

So, look for the answer choice where the verb comes immediately after the comparator AS. The only option is D. All the other options seem to compare the where the Crommelin PASSED to the HALLEY'S COMET ITSELF. So, you are comparing a location or a point in space to a comet. You can only compare a point in space to either the point itself or another point in space.

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Can somebody help me understand what is wrong with option A?

Any insights on "that vs. as" are welcome.





Hi gmatter0913,

Let’s first learn about the differences in the usage of ‘that’ and ‘as’.

Usage of ‘that’: ‘that’ is generally used to connect two clauses. It works in two ways to connect the clauses:

1. Subject: While connecting two clauses ‘that’ can act as the subject of the second clause.

He killed the snake that lived in the woods.

Clause 1: He killed the snake
Clause 2: that lived in the woods. (‘that’ is the subject)

2. Connector: ‘that’ can act as a connector only.

He killed the snake that we saw the other night.

Clause 1: He killed the snake
Clause 2: we saw the other night. (‘that’ is the connector)

Usage of ‘as’: ‘as’ is used in two formats.

1. As + clause: When ‘as’ is followed by a clause it can play any of the three following roles.

i.) Comparison
ii.) Simultaneous Action
iii.) Reason


2. As + noun: When ‘as’ is followed by a noun, it means that one of the two entities functions as the other.

Spartacus used to take care of his army as he was the commander of the army. (Reason)

Spartacus cared about the children of his army persons, as a father does. (Comparison)

As the commander of the army, Spartacus used to take care of his army very well. (Function: Spartacus functions as the commander of the army)

As he was working for a software company, he also tutored GMAT students. (Simultaneous Action)



EXPLANATION

Now, let’s first understand the structure and meaning of the given sentence:

• In its most recent approach, the comet Crommelin passed the Earth
o at about the same distance and in about the same position, some 25 degrees above the horizon,
• that Halley’s comet will pass the next time
o it appears.


MEANING

• The sentence states that in a recent event, the comet Crommelin passed the Earth.
• The comet passed at about the same distance and in about the same position, some 25 degrees above the horizon. This part of the sentence indicates that the distance and position of this comet are similar to something.
• The distance and the position are similar to when Halley’s comet will pass the next time it appears.


Basically the distance and the position of the Crommelin comet are compared to the distance and the position of the Halley’s comet. Now, as explained above, these entities cannot be compared using ‘that’. Hence, we need to use ‘as’.


Hope this helps! :)
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gmatter0913 wrote:
Can somebody help me understand what is wrong with option A?

Any insights on "that vs. as" are welcome.





Hi gmatter0913,

Let’s first learn about the differences in the usage of ‘that’ and ‘as’.

Usage of ‘that’: ‘that’ is generally used to connect two clauses. It works in two ways to connect the clauses:

1. Subject: While connecting two clauses ‘that’ can act as the subject of the second clause.

He killed the snake that lived in the woods.

Clause 1: He killed the snake
Clause 2: that lived in the woods. (‘that’ is the subject)

2. Connector: ‘that’ can act as a connector only.

He killed the snake that we saw the other night.

Clause 1: He killed the snake
Clause 2: we saw the other night. (‘that’ is the connector)

Usage of ‘as’: ‘as’ is used in two formats.

1. As + clause: When ‘as’ is followed by a clause it can play any of the three following roles.

i.) Comparison
ii.) Simultaneous Action
iii.) Reason


2. As + noun: When ‘as’ is followed by a noun, it means that one of the two entities functions as the other.

Spartacus used to take care of his army as he was the commander of the army. (Reason)

Spartacus cared about the children of his army persons, as a father does. (Comparison)

As the commander of the army, Spartacus used to take care of his army very well. (Function: Spartacus functions as the commander of the army)

As he was working for a software company, he also tutored GMAT students. (Simultaneous Action)



EXPLANATION

Now, let’s first understand the structure and meaning of the given sentence:

• In its most recent approach, the comet Crommelin passed the Earth
o at about the same distance and in about the same position, some 25 degrees above the horizon,
• that Halley’s comet will pass the next time
o it appears.


MEANING

• The sentence states that in a recent event, the comet Crommelin passed the Earth.
• The comet passed at about the same distance and in about the same position, some 25 degrees above the horizon. This part of the sentence indicates that the distance and position of this comet are similar to something.
• The distance and the position are similar to when Halley’s comet will pass the next time it appears.


Basically the distance and the position of the Crommelin comet are compared to the distance and the position of the Halley’s comet. Now, as explained above, these entities cannot be compared using ‘that’. Hence, we need to use ‘as’.


Hope this helps! :)
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Firstly, thank you so much for explaining this very patiently.

I thought that "that" is being used as a subject in the comet sentence. Why can't 'that' be a subject?

What is the difference between the below two sentences?

1. Sheldon is going to buy the same bike that Penny has bought.
2. Sheldon is going to buy the same bike as Penny bought.

When we use "As" followed by a clause, the focus immediately shifts to the action in that clause. The sentence is either comparing the action or making a causation or talking about the duration during the action.

In this particular sentence, I was not convinced that 'As' is doing any of the three mentioned above.

Moreover, you also mentioned that it is comparing the distance and location of the Comets.

Can we write this sentence using that as a 'subject'?
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Firstly, thank you so much for explaining this very patiently.

I thought that "that" is being used as a subject in the comet sentence. Why can't 'that' be a subject?

What is the difference between the below two sentences?

1. Sheldon is going to buy the same bike that Penny has bought.
2. Sheldon is going to buy the same bike as Penny bought.

When we use "As" followed by a clause, the focus immediately shifts to the action in that clause. The sentence is either comparing the action or making a causation or talking about the duration during the action.

In this particular sentence, I was not convinced that 'As' is doing any of the three mentioned above.

Moreover, you also mentioned that it is comparing the distance and location of the Comets.

Can we write this sentence using that as a 'subject'?





Hi gmatter0913,

Thank you for the kudos and appreciation. It motivates me to keep going. :)

Let’s discuss your questions one by one.


I thought that "that" is being used as a subject in the comet sentence. Why can't 'that' be a subject?

I would recommend that you go through this superb article to learn more about ‘the usage of that’. Now, since I am new to this community I can’t post links in my post (GMAT Club won’t allow me to do so :( ). So, I will tell you the key words and you can google it.

The key words are: “learn-how-that-can-help-you-demystify-a-long-sentence”. This is an article by e-GMAT, hope you can find it. It will surely help you.



What is the difference between the below two sentences?

1. Sheldon is going to buy the same bike that Penny has bought.

2. Sheldon is going to buy the same bike as Penny bought.



Are you sure Sheldon is going to buy a bike or anything for that matter similar to Penny's? Did you forget about the red blinking light in Penny’s car that he keeps pointing to? :P
Also, Leonard is always there to drop him to the office. :-D


I think after going through the above article you will be able to figure out the difference. So, I will say that you have a go at it first once you have read the article.


1. Sheldon is going to buy the same bike that Penny has bought.

Here, ‘that’ refers to the same bike. It means that Sheldon is going to buy the very same bike that Penny bought. This is illogical. Since Penny has already bought the bike, how can Sheldon buy it?
The only way is to buy the bike from Penny.


2. Sheldon is going to buy the same bike as Penny bought.

This sentence tells us that Sheldon is going to buy a bike that is similar to the bike Penny bought. However I am not too sure about this sentence, but I think we know what the meaning conveyed here is.


When we use "As" followed by a clause, the focus immediately shifts to the action in that clause. The sentence is either comparing the action or making a causation or talking about the duration during the action.
In this particular sentence, I was not convinced that 'As' is doing any of the three mentioned above.
Moreover, you also mentioned that it is comparing the distance and location of the Comets.



Absolutely correct. You can also identify these usage in the examples provided in my last post.

I think you need to get familiar with the usage of ‘as’. Also, once you go through the article you will get more familiar with the usage of ‘that’. This will help you to understand why ‘that’ is incorrect in the given sentence.

Let’s take a simple example to understand the comparison regarding the location of the comets (This might not be correct scientifically):

• According to scientists, the comet Crommelin is at about the same distance from the Earth as Halley’s comet is.



Can we write this sentence using that as a 'subject'?

I think it is possible, but I won’t try to do so. It’s too complicated. :P

P.S.: Let me know if you are not able to find the article.



Hope this helps! :)
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Firstly, thank you so much for explaining this very patiently.

I thought that "that" is being used as a subject in the comet sentence. Why can't 'that' be a subject?

What is the difference between the below two sentences?

1. Sheldon is going to buy the same bike that Penny has bought.
2. Sheldon is going to buy the same bike as Penny bought.

When we use "As" followed by a clause, the focus immediately shifts to the action in that clause. The sentence is either comparing the action or making a causation or talking about the duration during the action.

In this particular sentence, I was not convinced that 'As' is doing any of the three mentioned above.

Moreover, you also mentioned that it is comparing the distance and location of the Comets.

Can we write this sentence using that as a 'subject'?

gmatter0913 wrote:
Hi Mike,

I am a little confused about a question and I need your help. My understanding is that when we are using "As followed by a clause", then we are either making a comparison or a causation or talking about a duration. I feel the sentence is not doing any of it.

Could you help me understand it better, please?

Thanks
Sai

Dear Sai,
I am happy to respond. :-)

First of all, you may find this article about "that" helpful:
http://magoosh.com/gmat/2013/gmat-sente ... s-of-that/

Here is the OA version of the sentence above:
In its most recent approach, the comet Crommelin passed the Earth at about the same distance and in about the same position, some 25 degrees above the horizon, as will Halley’s comet the next time it appears.

Believe it or not, that IS a comparison. We often think of comparisons in terms of differences (more than, less than, bigger than, smaller than, etc.), but statements about how two things are the same are also comparisons. For example,
Fred is as tall as I am.
Susan makes as much money as I do.
SAT math is about as difficult as GRE math.

Notice that "than" is used for difference-comparisons and "as" is used for same-comparisons.

Does all this make sense?
Mike :-)
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Its explained well in the MGMAT forum :
http://www.manhattangmat.com/forums/sc1000-t950.html

The explanation given is as follows :
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identify the same as idiom and eliminate A and B. Next, answer choice C changes the original intent of the sentence, since Crommelin did not pass the Earth where Haley's comet is currently located; instead, Crommelin passed the Earth in about the same position as Haley's comet will pass the Earth. The problem with answer choice E is that, by including the helping verb will, the primary verb pass is already implied. Thus, answer choice E actually "reads" the comet Crommelin passed the Earth at about the same distance and in about the same position as Haley's comet will do pass the next time it appears. Thus, the verb do is both unnecessary and is not parallel to the verb pass.
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same has 2 meaning,
the two things similar
in this meaning
we use a noun after the "as" this noun is similar to the first noun
your pen is the same as mine

second meaning is : one thing

in this meaning we use the subject after "as" to provide the second context because there is one thing, not two things.
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mikemcgarry wrote:
gmatter0913 wrote:
Firstly, thank you so much for explaining this very patiently.

I thought that "that" is being used as a subject in the comet sentence. Why can't 'that' be a subject?

What is the difference between the below two sentences?

1. Sheldon is going to buy the same bike that Penny has bought.
2. Sheldon is going to buy the same bike as Penny bought.

When we use "As" followed by a clause, the focus immediately shifts to the action in that clause. The sentence is either comparing the action or making a causation or talking about the duration during the action.

In this particular sentence, I was not convinced that 'As' is doing any of the three mentioned above.

Moreover, you also mentioned that it is comparing the distance and location of the Comets.

Can we write this sentence using that as a 'subject'?

gmatter0913 wrote:
Hi Mike,

I am a little confused about a question and I need your help. My understanding is that when we are using "As followed by a clause", then we are either making a comparison or a causation or talking about a duration. I feel the sentence is not doing any of it.

Could you help me understand it better, please?

Thanks
Sai

Dear Sai,
I am happy to respond. :-)

First of all, you may find this article about "that" helpful:
http://magoosh.com/gmat/2013/gmat-sente ... s-of-that/

Here is the OA version of the sentence above:
In its most recent approach, the comet Crommelin passed the Earth at about the same distance and in about the same position, some 25 degrees above the horizon, as will Halley’s comet the next time it appears.

Believe it or not, that IS a comparison. We often think of comparisons in terms of differences (more than, less than, bigger than, smaller than, etc.), but statements about how two things are the same are also comparisons. For example,
Fred is as tall as I am.
Susan makes as much money as I do.
SAT math is about as difficult as GRE math.

Notice that "than" is used for difference-comparisons and "as" is used for same-comparisons.

Does all this make sense?
Mike :-)


HI mike,

Could you please provide your comments for option E?

as Halley’s comet will do.

what is the issue with this option.

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