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great insight into booth recruiting , thanks rhyme +1
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+1 rhyme

I didn't know that you got to bid after the closed lists come out. Good to know. :)
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good stuff, thanks rhyme! +1
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Awesome rhyme! Thanks you!
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The process is basically identical here at Darden. Students have a chance to go through the recruiting process and attend firm events; then at the end of the process, the closed list comes out and there is a certain amount of time for people who didn't make the list to bid and see if they can get one of the available spots. Of course, if you've attend 4-5 events with a firm and they didn't add you to their closed list, bidding for a spot might be quite futile. The school has a requirement that firms that interview on campus must allocate a number slots (generally 1/4 I think) to open bidding. Certainly, some firms would prefer not to be forced to interview people they didn't select for their closed lists, but the school has the policy for the benefit of students. Darden provides a record of bidding and results from past years, so students can plan accordingly, and inject their own views on the current job market.

The OP asked whether firms resent being forced to interview people who bid their way onto their interview lists. The answer is that it depends. With the IB firms, which tend to visit early and often, some clearly gave no shot to people who bid their way onto the lists. DB was one where people who made the closed list were given rubber-stamp first-round interviews, while bidders were grilled mercilessly and from what I could tell had no real shot of moving on to the second round. On the other hand, I know that Citi and I think CS eventually hired people who bid for their lists. Keep in mind, the actual process used by a particular firm will vary depending on the team interviewing at a certain school, and the relationship they have, so don't apply the names universally.

Another dynamic you must consider is that some firms interview earlier (and from what I understand pay a hefty chunk of cash to do so) while other come later. The firms that come earlier have the best shot of landing their targeted candidates, while the firms that came later seemed more likely to take bidders, which probably correlates with the fact that many of the top choices had already committed. An interesting twist was that one firm (maybe more than one) actually asked some people who were clearly top candidates to bid to get on their lists - to use some of their points to show that they were really committed to that firm. The reality, of course, was that the firm was slightly less desirable and the top candidates were in fact more interested in other firms.
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great insight into booth recruiting , thanks rhyme +1


Hey terp, where'd you get that image as your avatar? I'd be curious to see teh full size.
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Great posts Rhyme and Pelihu, kudos.

I'm wondering whether it's an advantage or disadvantage when schools require a high percentage of interview slots to be open to bidding. For example, at Tuck all on campus recruiting is 50% closed list, 50% bidding. That's mandated by the school, the companies have no choice. In a way I guess it's positive because you can pretty much interview with any firm you want. On the other hand if close listers are looked at much more favorably then bidders (as stated in Pelihu's post) then having only 50% of the slots closed would obviously make it harder to be one of the "favored" closed list candidates. Any thoughts on whether its an advantage/disadvantage/neutral to have this many open spots?
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+ 1 pelihu.

You answered the follow up question that I was going to ask rhyme with regards to what on earth would one's chances be if he/she didn't get placed on the closed list.
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At Kellogg right now its 50/50 split for open and closed. Next year it is supposed to be switching to I believe 70/30. You can get on the closed list, alternate, or not invited. Alternates get in if people drop off whether they bid on or are invited. Alternates get ranked, I have heard of people being very high numbers for the consulting companies who have 100+ interview slots.

As for getting in off the open vs. closed list. It really depends on the company...I have seen some companies who take a lot of open list people and some who take none. However, if you get alternate here at kellogg you know your position relative to their list. So if they have 20 spots, 10 open and 10 closed and you are number 2 alternate...then at many schools you would be on the closed list since they dont use the 50/50 split.

Its not as complicated as you would think. I tend to feel if you make the alternate list for a lot of these positions its not that different than getting invited you just have to spend points. Huge numbers of people apply for a lot of the lists and there are certain people who clean up...the girl who worked in marketing before is probably getting on all the top CPG lists where as the person with no background will have a harder time. As rounds get later on your chance of getting off the alternate goes up drastically as people who are on lists get offers and drop off. A lot of MC people use other types of companies as their plan B.
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Thanks River! +1
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Ugh, I know that i will be terrible at this when the day comes. I always think that I'm being super sneaky and clever on e-bay and it never works out quite right.

I can totally see myself being like "i'm all in on google" and then realizing afterwards that I've just totally and completely screwed myself.
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Ugh, I know that i will be terrible at this when the day comes. I always think that I'm being super sneaky and clever on e-bay and it never works out quite right.

I can totally see myself being like "i'm all in on google" and then realizing afterwards that I've just totally and completely screwed myself.
Yeah, I hate those bastards that come in and 'snake' your item.
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Ugh, I know that i will be terrible at this when the day comes. I always think that I'm being super sneaky and clever on e-bay and it never works out quite right.

I can totally see myself being like "i'm all in on google" and then realizing afterwards that I've just totally and completely screwed myself.

You are like me. I downloaded a firefox extension to monitor last minute interview drops (which are handled in real time, so theres a benefit to keeping an eye out).
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Great info rhyme, pelihu, and river.

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Thanks rhyme, pelihu and river!
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Fantastic insight. Thanks rhyme, river and pelihu! [+1]
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