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It is prudent that marathoners not charge too fast in the first two miles of the race in order to conserve energy for the latter stages and not crash and burn before the end of the 26.2 miles stretch.

in order to conserve energy for the latter stages and not
in order to conserve energy in the latter stages and not
so that they conserve energy for the latter stages and do not
so as to conserve energy for the latter stages and not to
so as to conserve energy in the latter stages and not
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Re: It is prudent that marathoners not charge too fast in the first two [#permalink] New post  05 Jun 2016, 06:54
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It is prudent that marathoners not charge too fast in the first two miles of the race in order to conserve energy for the latter stages and not crash and burn before the end of the 26.2 miles stretch.

in order to conserve energy for the latter stages and not
in order to conserve energy in the latter stages and not
so that they conserve energy for the latter stages and not
so as to conserve energy for the latter stages and not to
so as to conserve energy in the latter stages and not


So that = Shows the purpose ....

It is prudent that marathoners not charge too fast in the first two miles of the race so that they conserve energy for the latter stages and not crash and burn before the end of the 26.2 miles stretch.

Marathoners are advised " not to not charge too fast in the first two miles of the race " for the purpose " conserve energy for the latter stages and not crash and burn before the end of the 26.2 miles stretch. "

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Re: It is prudent that marathoners not charge too fast in the first two [#permalink] New post  05 Jun 2016, 07:25
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It is prudent that
- marathoners not charge too fast in the first two miles of the race
so that
-they conserve energy for the latter stages
and
-not crash and burn before the end of the 26.2 miles stretch.
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A simple representation clearly shows why C is the correct choice.
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Re: It is prudent that marathoners not charge too fast in the first two [#permalink] New post  07 Jun 2016, 00:47
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It is prudent that marathoners not charge too fast in the first two miles of the race in order to conserve energy for the latter stages and not crash and burn before the end of the 26.2 miles stretch.

in order to conserve energy for the latter stages and not
in order to conserve energy in the latter stages and not
so that they conserve energy for the latter stages and not
so as to conserve energy for the latter stages and not to
so as to conserve energy in the latter stages and not


Isn't "In order to" same as "to", and as "to" shows purpose, then why the 1st option isn't correct?
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Re: It is prudent that marathoners not charge too fast in the first two [#permalink] New post  07 Jun 2016, 18:31
I think the answer should be A itself, as it offers a correct parallel structure. Where as in C, "they" has no referent.

1. CORRECT parallel structure
2. in the latter stages changes the intended meaning
3. ‘they’ has no referent.
4. ‘not to’ breaks the parallel structure.'so as to' is wrong
5. Missing ‘to’ after ‘and’ breaks the parallel structure.'so as to' is wrong

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Re: It is prudent that marathoners not charge too fast in the first two [#permalink] New post  03 Sep 2016, 00:53
mukulgupta5 wrote:
It is prudent that marathoners not charge too fast in the first two miles of the race in order to conserve energy for the latter stages and not crash and burn before the end of the 26.2 miles stretch.

in order to conserve energy for the latter stages and not
in order to conserve energy in the latter stages and not
so that they conserve energy for the latter stages and not
so as to conserve energy for the latter stages and not to
so as to conserve energy in the latter stages and not


What is the problem with A ? 'in order to' also shows a purpose . Not clear with the OA. Can anyone help?
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Re: It is prudent that marathoners not charge too fast in the first two [#permalink] New post  03 Sep 2016, 08:57
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mukulgupta5 wrote:
It is prudent that marathoners not charge too fast in the first two miles of the race in order to conserve energy for the latter stages and not crash and burn before the end of the 26.2 miles stretch.

in order to conserve energy for the latter stages and not
in order to conserve energy in the latter stages and not
so that they conserve energy for the latter stages and not
so as to conserve energy for the latter stages and not to
so as to conserve energy in the latter stages and not


What is the problem with A ? 'in order to' also shows a purpose . Not clear with the OA. Can anyone help?


There is a parallelism error in A. The part "in order" covers both the parallel items:
1. to conserve energy.
2. not to crash and burn.

The word "to" is missing from the second parallel element - in order to conserve energy and in order not to crash and burn....

Another way of looking at the issue is to consider that "in order to" covers both the elements:
1. conserve energy
2. not crash and burn
In this case the word sequencing is problematic - in order to conserve energy and in order to not crash and burn....
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Re: It is prudent that marathoners not charge too fast in the first two [#permalink] New post  05 Sep 2016, 07:42
sayantanc2k wrote:
Suvo wrote:
mukulgupta5 wrote:
It is prudent that marathoners not charge too fast in the first two miles of the race in order to conserve energy for the latter stages and not crash and burn before the end of the 26.2 miles stretch.

in order to conserve energy for the latter stages and not
in order to conserve energy in the latter stages and not
so that they conserve energy for the latter stages and not
so as to conserve energy for the latter stages and not to
so as to conserve energy in the latter stages and not


What is the problem with A ? 'in order to' also shows a purpose . Not clear with the OA. Can anyone help?


There is a parallelism error in A. The part "in order" covers both the parallel items:
1. to conserve energy.
2. not to crash and burn.




The word "to" is missing from the second parallel element - in order to conserve energy and in order not to crash and burn....

Another way of looking at the issue is to consider that "in order to" covers both the elements:
1. conserve energy
2. not crash and burn
In this case the word sequencing is problematic - in order to conserve energy and in order to not crash and burn....




I had used the same logic to select D as an option that is to conserve and not to crash, not sure where did I go wrong. Also I believe both "In order to" and "so as to" can be used here , please let me know if understanding is correct
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Re: It is prudent that marathoners not charge too fast in the first two [#permalink] New post  05 Sep 2016, 10:48
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I had used the same logic to select D as an option that is to conserve and not to crash, not sure where did I go wrong. Also I believe both "In order to" and "so as to" can be used here , please let me know if understanding is correct


Yes, your understanding is correct.
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Re: It is prudent that marathoners not charge too fast in the first two [#permalink] New post  05 Sep 2016, 20:20
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I had used the same logic to select D as an option that is to conserve and not to crash, not sure where did I go wrong. Also I believe both "In order to" and "so as to" can be used here , please let me know if understanding is correct


Yes, your understanding is correct.


But the answer is C as per the OA. Can you please explain why D is incorrect
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Re: It is prudent that marathoners not charge too fast in the first two [#permalink] New post  07 Sep 2016, 14:00
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I had used the same logic to select D as an option that is to conserve and not to crash, not sure where did I go wrong. Also I believe both "In order to" and "so as to" can be used here , please let me know if understanding is correct


Yes, your understanding is correct.


But the answer is C as per the OA. Can you please explain why D is incorrect


Negative construction with "so as" is bit awkward (though not grammatically wrong). "So that" in this case is more direct and better than D. However probably one would not actually face such close options in GMAT.
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Re: It is prudent that marathoners not charge too fast in the first two [#permalink] New post  04 Oct 2016, 16:23
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It is prudent that marathoners not charge too fast in the first two miles of the race in order to conserve energy for the latter stages and not crash and burn before the end of the 26.2 miles stretch.

in order to conserve energy for the latter stages and not to for parallelism
in order to conserve energy in the latter stages and not to
so that they conserve energy for the latter stages and not correct
so as to conserve energy for the latter stages and not to wrong prallelism
so as to conserve energy in the latter stages and not


The parallelism is not between in order to conserve energy for the latter stages and not crash and burn before the end of the 26.2 miles stretch.

The parallelism is between marathoners not charge too fast in the first two miles and not crash and burn before the end of the 26.2 miles stretch.

These phrases use the command subjunctive that marathoners not charge and not crash and burn
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Re: It is prudent that marathoners not charge too fast in the first two [#permalink] New post  04 Oct 2016, 16:25
The parallelism is not between in order to conserve energy for the latter stages and not crash and burn....

The parallelism is between marathoners not charge too fast in the first two miles and not crash and burn ....

These phrases use the command subjunctive that marathoners not charge and not crash and burn
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Isn't "In order to" same as "to", and as "to" shows purpose, then why the 1st option isn't correct?[/quote]

The parallelism is not between in order to conserve energy for the latter stages and not crash and burn....

The parallelism is between marathoners not charge too fast in the first two miles and not crash and burn ....

These phrases use the command subjunctive that marathoners not charge and not crash and burn
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Re: It is prudent that marathoners not charge too fast in the first two [#permalink] New post  04 Oct 2016, 16:29
The parallelism is not between in order to conserve energy for the latter stages and not crash and burn....

The parallelism is between marathoners not charge too fast in the first two miles and not crash and burn ....

These phrases use the command subjunctive that marathoners not charge and not crash and burn
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Re: It is prudent that marathoners not charge too fast in the first two [#permalink] New post  19 May 2017, 02:26
Senthil7 wrote:
It is prudent that
- marathoners not charge too fast in the first two miles of the race
so that
-they conserve energy for the latter stages
and
-not crash and burn before the end of the 26.2 miles stretch.
.
A simple representation clearly shows why C is the correct choice.


Isn't there a parallelism error here?
If the terms after so that are to be parallel, the construction should be as follows

so that they
-conserve energy for the latter stages
and
-not don't crash and burn before the end of the 26.2 miles stretch.

don't clearly makes the two expressions parallel.

sayantanc2k Please assist here. Thank you!
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Re: It is prudent that marathoners not charge too fast in the first two [#permalink] New post  19 May 2017, 02:27
Have already posted the query. Experts - please clarify. Thank you!
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Re: It is prudent that marathoners not charge too fast in the first two [#permalink] New post  20 May 2017, 03:10
sayantanc2k wrote:
Suvo wrote:
mukulgupta5 wrote:
It is prudent that marathoners not charge too fast in the first two miles of the race in order to conserve energy for the latter stages and not crash and burn before the end of the 26.2 miles stretch.

in order to conserve energy for the latter stages and not
in order to conserve energy in the latter stages and not
so that they conserve energy for the latter stages and not
so as to conserve energy for the latter stages and not to
so as to conserve energy in the latter stages and not


What is the problem with A ? 'in order to' also shows a purpose . Not clear with the OA. Can anyone help?


There is a parallelism error in A. The part "in order" covers both the parallel items:
1. to conserve energy.
2. not to crash and burn.

The word "to" is missing from the second parallel element - in order to conserve energy and in order not to crash and burn....

Another way of looking at the issue is to consider that "in order to" covers both the elements:
1. conserve energy
2. not crash and burn
In this case the word sequencing is problematic - in order to conserve energy and in order to not crash and burn....


Applying the same logic as above C reads as
so that they conserve energy for the latter stages and theynot
doesn't it sound a bit awkward?
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Re: It is prudent that marathoners not charge too fast in the first two [#permalink] New post  20 May 2017, 11:32
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Senthil7 wrote:
It is prudent that
- marathoners not charge too fast in the first two miles of the race
so that
-they conserve energy for the latter stages
and
-not crash and burn before the end of the 26.2 miles stretch.
.
A simple representation clearly shows why C is the correct choice.


Isn't there a parallelism error here?
If the terms after so that are to be parallel, the construction should be as follows

so that they
-conserve energy for the latter stages
and
-not don't crash and burn before the end of the 26.2 miles stretch.

don't clearly makes the two expressions parallel.

sayantanc2k Please assist here. Thank you!


Yes, you are right. Thank you for pointing out. Corrected option C.
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Re: It is prudent that marathoners not charge too fast in the first two [#permalink] New post  10 Mar 2019, 03:29
C is correct, as ‘so that’ is the right phrase here. It means ‘to show the purpose of’, which is what the latter half of the sentence is supposed to do.
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