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New post 24 Dec 2019, 17:46
Hi all, happy holidays!

I am a latin american prospective student that just got the following results from R1:

Wharton: WL
Booth: Admitted (no $)
Sloan: Admitted (no $)
Kellogg: Admitted (no $)
Tuck: Admitted ($60K)

Background: LATAM 28M, with a business development role in a big tech company (Apple/Amazon/Microsoft/Google) in LATAM.

Short term goal: Want to go to business school to develop a business foundation that I lack and recruit for consulting to expose myself to different industries through different projects as I've been in big tech pretty much my whole career.

Long term goal: Love tech and would love to go back to the industry in a strategy role after gaining management/business acumen at the MBA and the consulting gig. Most of the strategy managers and above in my company have MBA and/or MBB experience.

I want to stay in the US for a few years and then come back to LATAM eventually (within the next 3 - 5 years after graduation in 2022). Depending on immigration situation also open to come back to a consulting office in LATAM right after the MBA.

I am unsure on what to do. I don't really have much preference other than I know Sloan just got the STEM thing which allows internationals to apply for a 2 year extension on OPT after the first year.

Culture wise, I found Sloan and Booth pretty similar and enjoyable (though liked Boston more than Chicago), Kellogg was fun and the main building is fantastic, didn't like Wharton much tbh so I will probably take myself off the waitlist unless recommended otherwise. Tuck I really liked but when I went to interview I realized I probably won't enjoy being so far away from a big city for 2 years (I'm from a huge city myself).

Nothing outstanding (positive or negative) in any of my visits to each campus when I interviewed.

Money is not an issue, I just want to go to the place that maximizes my chances to reach my goals.

Would love your input if anyone has been in a similar situation and could elaborate a bit on what made you pick what you picked.

Thanks all!
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New post 24 Dec 2019, 19:01
Congratulations on your admits! And merry Christmas too! :-D

I don’t think it would be a mistake to go to any of the schools but I would take into consideration stem designation; it could be a big help. Many programs are shifting to have stem designation and it seems 10 programs popped up in the last two months alone. I have a suspicion that Booth and Wharton may also get it shortly. Tuck as well.

I voted for Sloan. It’s very well known worldwide, much more so than booth and has the stem designation. If money is not a big consideration, I would pick Sloan. Sorry for a very rudimentary approach....

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New post 25 Dec 2019, 15:14
Why not go straight to a tech company?
But whatever your short or long terms goals are - Sloan is an easy choice, It has good tech recruiting and it also has good MBB recruiting.

It gives you the best of both worlds.

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New post 26 Dec 2019, 10:59
Thank you guys for the feedback.

I will likely try to recruit directly for strategy roles directly from the MBA but I've heard from very good sources (i.e. hiring managers at my company) that the degree itself is not enough. Actually, our strategy team is like 90% ex consultants just from doing a quick linkedin search , pretty much all of them MBB. Those that are not had senior manager positions here before.

In any case, thanks a lot for the opinions and yeah, it looks like Sloan is a pretty attractive choice. I will go to adMIT weekend and report back. I will also check Booth's Welcome Weekend.

Any other opinions are welcome!
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New post 26 Dec 2019, 11:31
FYI - just realized that Booth is STEM eligible with 2 concentrations (which does not really matter which concentration you do in your MBA, though you may have to take classes you don't have interest in and that's annoying) but anyway, Booth is also eligible: https://gmatclub.com/forum/stem-opt-fro ... 05548.html

Though I still think Sloan has a stronger global name but Booth is quite strong across the board in the US
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And I do not see Sloan MBA in the list of STEM certified programs. I see LGO is and I see that the Masters of Business Analaytics, a 12-month program is STEM-designated but I don't think MBA students can get designation without enrolling in an extra degree: https://mitsloan.mit.edu/master-of-business-analytics

I am just starting to dig in deeper into the STEM requirements and putting a topic together as it seems it is not very clear but please tell me if I am off here.... or has it not yet been announced?

P.S. I am changing my mind to Booth if Sloan MBA does not have STEM

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I have been reading about MBA programs with STEM designation and its left me confused. I am assuming that it helps with immigration and visas.
But - why does it matter? If you go to Sloan for an MBA, you’re reasonably assured of a reasonable job post MBA and they’ll apply for your visa. So STEM designation from MBA shouldn’t really matter.

Unless I understand this wrong and someone wants to correct me

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New post 26 Dec 2019, 13:03
The tricky thing for international applicants is that there are more applicants than work permits. There is a quota on H1B work permit visa. As the result, it is a lottery and H1B lottery happens in April every year.

That means you have 1-2 chances for the lottery with regular OPT and 3-4 chances with STEM. Moreover, employers may be more inclined to hire a STEM candidate some they also understand it is a lottery.

With STEM, one are guaranteed to work in the US for almost three years as a post to a maximum of one year and most likely nine months since most jobs start in June. That allows one to get the full signing bonus which usually is spread across two years. Also allows to get a decent start in their career and get their footing in light of the student loans.

PS. US GOV does not care about rankings in their lottery ;-)

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Bahahaha - Sounds like US Gov and I think the same way about rankings ;)
But strategy or marketing or entrepreneurship isn’t STEM. I could argue that economics and finance is

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Bahahaha - Sounds like US Gov and I think the same way about rankings ;)
But strategy or marketing or entrepreneurship isn’t STEM. I could argue that economics and finance is

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The fact that you don’t care about rankings impacts really only just one person, but the immigration policies for work permits is not a laughing matter really.
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Hi all, happy holidays!

I am a latin american prospective student that just got the following results from R1:

Wharton: WL
Booth: Admitted (no $)
Sloan: Admitted (no $)
Kellogg: Admitted (no $)
Tuck: Admitted ($60K)

Background: LATAM 28M, with a business development role in a big tech company (Apple/Amazon/Microsoft/Google) in LATAM.

Short term goal: Want to go to business school to develop a business foundation that I lack and recruit for consulting to expose myself to different industries through different projects as I've been in big tech pretty much my whole career.

Long term goal: Love tech and would love to go back to the industry in a strategy role after gaining management/business acumen at the MBA and the consulting gig. Most of the strategy managers and above in my company have MBA and/or MBB experience.

I want to stay in the US for a few years and then come back to LATAM eventually (within the next 3 - 5 years after graduation in 2022). Depending on immigration situation also open to come back to a consulting office in LATAM right after the MBA.

I am unsure on what to do. I don't really have much preference other than I know Sloan just got the STEM thing which allows internationals to apply for a 2 year extension on OPT after the first year.

Culture wise, I found Sloan and Booth pretty similar and enjoyable (though liked Boston more than Chicago), Kellogg was fun and the main building is fantastic, didn't like Wharton much tbh so I will probably take myself off the waitlist unless recommended otherwise. Tuck I really liked but when I went to interview I realized I probably won't enjoy being so far away from a big city for 2 years (I'm from a huge city myself).

Nothing outstanding (positive or negative) in any of my visits to each campus when I interviewed.

Money is not an issue, I just want to go to the place that maximizes my chances to reach my goals.

Would love your input if anyone has been in a similar situation and could elaborate a bit on what made you pick what you picked.

Thanks all!


Great problems to have - congratulations! MIT and Booth seem to be the top bets for you. Having just finished Booth, I can tell you that it opens up a world of opportunities for you, even in tech. However, the being on the West Coast can keep you closer to small & mid-size tech if you are doubling down there. Best of luck - you cant go wrong either way :)
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And I do not see Sloan MBA in the list of STEM certified programs. I see LGO is and I see that the Masters of Business Analaytics, a 12-month program is STEM-designated but I don't think MBA students can get designation without enrolling in an extra degree:
I am just starting to dig in deeper into the STEM requirements and putting a topic together as it seems it is not very clear but please tell me if I am off here.... or has it not yet been announced?

P.S. I am changing my mind to Booth if Sloan MBA does not have STEM

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It was actually just posted on the Sloan forum, no links though

In any case, the student that followed up with me after I was admitted did mention it in one of our chats. Should be public soon most likely.

Thanks for the insights!
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Thank you! This STEM secrecy is funny. But I am guessing schools are trying to get the information out to the students making the decisions and I think STEM designation for some of the majors is likely to happen to all top 20 programs, which is a big plus at the end and makes US programs more attractive than ever before.

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