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New post 23 Oct 2019, 11:27
Hi,
My official gmat score taken today is 640 (Q47,V32)
I took there official GMAT mocks before that with scores 690 (Q47V38),710 (Q49,V39) and 700 (Q48,V37).I believe that my verbal score went down in actual GMAT due to a RC mistake and I may retake GMAT.
Through out my mocks, sentence correction accuracy was fluctuating widely. My correct answer ratios were 9/13, 7/13,4/13.
Both the accuracy and average time taken for SC is very poor.I need help with sentence correction badly. I'm ok with CR and RC. I've gone through mgmat sc guide thoroughly, but it doesn't seem to help me.

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New post 23 Oct 2019, 11:38
Hmm, sorry to hear that your test day score wasn't in line with your expectations.

I would recommend ordering the ESR and see what sections you did well/poorly on. From there you can work on your weaknesses as well as other factors.

With SC, it's the easiest to improve as there's a limited number of factors that you can be tested on.

I'd focus on eliminating obvious grammar errors first (parallelism, SV agreement, pronouns, comparisons etc), then focus on the meaning to narrow it down
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New post 23 Oct 2019, 17:52
vizpoy, I am sorry to hear that you did not do well on your GMAT.

My recommendation is also the same - Order your ESR so that you know constitutes V32. I just now wrote a reply on this thread. A lot of what I recommended to him also applies to you. So, do review my response here.

In addition, I would like you to also view my video here that explains what it takes to prepare for SC.

I am sorry to say but you have not prepared for SC in the right manner. I apologize for being very upfront, but I think it is better that I tell you the reality as it is instead of sugar-coating it.

Firstly, you have focused on accuracy instead of ability. View video below to learn why accuracy is not the right metric for GMAT.



Secondly, you have not spoken about methods at all. As you review my video on SC here you will understand what I mean by methods and why methods are so very important.

I have shared a lot of information with you here. Take your time to absorb the same and feel free to ask any specific questions that you may have.

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Hi vizpoy,

First off, a 640/Q47 is a solid Score, so it could be enough to get you into your first-choice School. As such, a retest might not be necessary. Depending on the Schools that you plan to apply to, you would likely find it beneficial to speak with an Admissions Expert about your overall profile. There's a Forum full of those Experts here:

https://gmatclub.com/forum/ask-admissio ... tants-124/

There's certainly no harm in retesting though - and you have the opportunity to pick up some significant points in BOTH the Quant and Verbal sections. Before I can offer you the specific advice that you’re looking for, it would help if you could provide a bit more information on how you've been studying and your goals:

Studies:
1) How long have you studied? How many hours do you typically study each week?
2) What study materials have you used so far?
3) On what dates did you take EACH of your CATs/mocks and how did you score on EACH (including the Quant and Verbal Scaled Scores for EACH)?

Goals:
4) What is your overall goal score?
5) When are you planning to apply to Business School?
6) What Schools are you planning to apply to?

You might also choose to purchase the Enhanced Score Report. While the ESR doesn’t provide a lot of information, there are usually a few data points that we can use to define what went wrong on Test Day (and what you should work on to score higher). If you purchase the ESR, then I'll be happy to analyze it for you.

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New post 27 Oct 2019, 18:57
Hi vizpoy,

Here is some advice you can follow to improve your SC skills.

There are three aspects to getting correct answers to GMAT Sentence Correction questions: what you know, such as grammar rules, what you see, such as violations of grammar rules and the logic of sentence structure, and what you do, such as carefully considering each answer choice in the context of the non-underlined portion of the sentence. To drive up your Sentence Correction score, you likely will have to work on all three of those aspects. Furthermore, the likely reason that your Sentence Correction performance has not improved is that you have not been working on all three of those aspects.

Regarding what you know, to be successful in Sentence Correction, first and foremost, you MUST know your grammar rules. Let's be clear, though: GMAT Sentence Correction is not just a test of knowledge of grammar rules. The reason for learning grammar rules is so that you can determine what sentences convey and whether sentences are well-constructed. In fact, in many cases, incorrect answers to Sentence Correction questions are grammatically flawless. Thus, often your task is to use your knowledge of grammar rules to determine which answer choice creates the most logical sentence meaning and structure.

This determination of whether sentences are well-constructed and logical is the second aspect of finding correct answers to Sentence Correction questions, what you see. To develop this skill, you probably have to slow way down. You won't develop this skill by spending less than two minutes per question. For a while, anyway, you have to spend time with each question, maybe even ten or fifteen minutes on one question sometimes, analyzing every answer choice until you see the details that you have to see in order to choose the correct answer. As you go through the answer choices, consider the meaning conveyed by each version of the sentence. Does the meaning make sense? Even if you can tell what the version is SUPPOSED to convey, does the version really convey that meaning? Is there a verb to go with the subject? Do all pronouns clearly refer to nouns? By slowing way down and looking for these details, you learn to see what you have to see in order to clearly understand which answer to a Sentence Correction question is correct.

There is only one correct answer to any Sentence Correction question, there are clear reasons why that choice is correct and the others are not, and none of those reasons are that the correct version simply "sounds right." In fact, the correct version often sounds a little off at first. That correct answers may sound a little off is not surprising. If the correct answers were always the ones that sounded right, then most people most of the time would get Sentence Correction questions correct, without really knowing why the wrong answers were wrong and the correct answers were correct. So, you have to go beyond choosing what "sounds right" and learn to clearly see the logical reasons why one choice is better than all of the others.

As for the third aspect of getting Sentence Correction questions correct, what you do, the main thing you have to do is be very careful. You have to make sure that you are truly considering the structures of sentences and the meanings conveyed rather than allowing yourself to be tricked into choosing trap answers that sound right but don't convey meanings that make sense. You also have to make sure that you put some real energy into finding the correct answers. Finding the correct answer to a Sentence Correction question may take bouncing from choice to choice repeatedly until you start to see the differences between the choices that make all choices wrong except for one. Often, when you first look at the choices, only one or two seem obviously incorrect. Getting the right answers takes a certain work ethic. You have to put in the necessary time to see the differences between answers and to figure out the precise reasons that one choice is correct.

To improve what you do when you answer Sentence Correction questions, seek to become aware of how you are going about answering them. Are you being careful and looking for logic and details, or are you quickly eliminating choices that sound a little off and then choosing the best of the rest? If you choose an incorrect answer, consider what you did to arrive at that answer and what you could do differently to arrive at correct answers more consistently. Furthermore, see how many questions you can get correct in a row as you practice. If you break your streak by missing one, consider what you could do differently to extend your streak.
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Many of the mock tests might mislead you, because they may not be adaptive tests until the end. Therefore one shouldn't bank on them fully.
You are not the only one in your predicament. Nearly 50 to 60 percent get stuck around 630. If you really want to pole-vault above 640, you then need personal help from a tutor who knows the job. If you can give 30 hours of your time, you can then relax for the rest of your life.
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New post 28 Oct 2019, 08:01
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Both the accuracy and average time taken for SC is very poor.

Hi vizpoy! Since you mention SC as your specific area of concern, thought I would mention that our sentence correction book Sentence Correction Nirvana is perhaps the only book that offers a score improvement guarantee, and is especially designed for non-native speakers.

After reading the book twice (yes! it's an academic book, and so must be read twice in all seriousness, to reinforce the concepts), you will start looking forward to solving SC questions!

The book is available on Flipkart and Amazon.in. You might want to refer to these sites, to also read testimonials of how readers have benefited.

See here how Mohit, who scored 750 on GMAT, vouches for our book.

If you want to sample a chapter before deciding to go ahead with our book, please PM me your mail-id (along with the chapter that you would like to sample) and I will be happy to send that chapter to you by mail. In addition, the entire Grammar section of the book is also available for free preview at pothi.
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New post 31 Oct 2019, 02:56
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Hi vizpoy,

First off, a 640/Q47 is a solid Score, so it could be enough to get you into your first-choice School. As such, a retest might not be necessary. Depending on the Schools that you plan to apply to, you would likely find it beneficial to speak with an Admissions Expert about your overall profile. There's a Forum full of those Experts here:



There's certainly no harm in retesting though - and you have the opportunity to pick up some significant points in BOTH the Quant and Verbal sections. Before I can offer you the specific advice that you’re looking for, it would help if you could provide a bit more information on how you've been studying and your goals:

Studies:
1) How long have you studied? How many hours do you typically study each week?
2) What study materials have you used so far?
3) On what dates did you take EACH of your CATs/mocks and how did you score on EACH (including the Quant and Verbal Scaled Scores for EACH)?

Goals:
4) What is your overall goal score?
5) When are you planning to apply to Business School?
6) What Schools are you planning to apply to?

You might also choose to purchase the Enhanced Score Report. While the ESR doesn’t provide a lot of information, there are usually a few data points that we can use to define what went wrong on Test Day (and what you should work on to score higher). If you purchase the ESR, then I'll be happy to analyze it for you.

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Studies:
1) How long have you studied? How many hours do you typically study each week? 3 months. 5 hours per day
2) What study materials have you used so far? OG, GMAT club Maths guide
3) On what dates did you take EACH of your CATs/mocks and how did you score on EACH (including the Quant and Verbal Scaled Scores for EACH)?
OCT 9 690 Q47,V38
Oct 19 710 Q49 V39
Oct 22 700 Q48,V37

Goals:
4) What is your overall goal score? 720+
5) When are you planning to apply to Business School? For academic year 2020
6) What Schools are you planning to apply to?ISB, IIM in India, Top colleges in Europe, Australia, Canada
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Hi vizpoy,

Raising a 640 to the point that you can consistently score 720+ will likely require at least another 1.5 - 2 months of consistent, guided study - and you'll have to make significant improvements to how you handle BOTH the Quant and Verbal sections. Thankfully, the GMAT is a consistent, predictable Exam, so you CAN train to score at a higher level.

From what you've described, your studies so far have been "book heavy"; unfortunately, many GMATers who study in that way end up getting 'stuck' at a particular score level. Even the best books are limited in what they can teach you; they also can't force you to approach questions in a certain way and their explanations are often one-sided. As such, you would likely find it beneficial to invest in some new, non-book study materials for this next phase of your studies.

1) What are the exact application deadlines that you are facing?
2) Going forward, how many hours do you think you can consistently study each week?

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