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^^ Thanks for the input mate
DO you have any idea about European market I am shortlisted by hochschule offenburg,Germany in International Business Consulting Program your words on it?
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^^ Thanks for the input mate
DO you have any idea about European market I am shortlisted by hochschule offenburg,Germany in International Business Consulting Program your words on it?
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you're welcome :wink:
Unfortunately, I've no idea about business education programs in Europe. Well, I live in Russia, which is considered a part of Europe and in case you're thinking of going to study in Russia, don't. It's not worth it.
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I was researching NZ programs for a long time.

It all depends on what you're looking for.
MBA itself won't get you a job in NZ. It will give you an opportunity to look for one, but still NZ employers are mainly looking at your experience rather than a degree. However, having a degree certainly wouldn't hurt. Remember that NZ job market is very tight.
You need to know that many MBA programs in NZ don't require GMAT (you're still may need this though) and their admission criterias are not very challenging compared to the requirements of the let's say top 100 MBA programs in the US, which can easily destroy one of the greatest MBA experiences - Peer-to-peer learning, since you can end up with a weak student body.
Also, if you are comparing MBA programs in NZ and in the US, you need to keep in mind that although MBA programs in the US are more expensive than those in NZ, there are still more funding opportunities in the US, especially if you're an international student. With some effort and luck, you can get full-ride for your US MBA degree, even get part of your living expenses paid. NZ universities are not very generous with international scholarships. You can work off-campus though no more than 20 hours a week, but you still need to look for a job on your own and this load may take your focus away from studying.
I chose not to apply to the NZ MBA program because for me the possible outcome from that kind of programs in NZ in no way matches the time and money spent. There are other less expensive opportunities to get PR in NZ if you are interested in staying there. There are great agriculture, sustainability and visual design programs in NZ, but if you're looking for an MBA program, it's better to look somewhere else.

Thanks a lot for the response!

Apart from cost (tuition & living), why the initial interest in NZ?

Also, was your research limited to NZ and the US, or did you also consider Australia and/or Canada?
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Thanks a lot for the response!

Apart from cost (tuition & living), why the initial interest in NZ?

Also, was your research limited to NZ and the US, or did you also consider Australia and/or Canada?

You're welcome :wink:
I was (and still am) interested in moving to NZ. I like the country and everything, so I spent much time figuring out how to move there. For me doing an MBA in the US and moving to NZ some time in the future looks more realistic and much cheaper than doing MBA in NZ and staying there.
I've also taken a look at Australian business schools, but there are two drawbacks there: they are even more expensive than the schools in NZ and there is practically no point of doing an MBA in Australia if you're not going to stay there. Even if you are, the chances of being hired after an MBA without having the work permit are close to zero. A very few companies will sponsor the visa for you, plus there are restrictions for the companies that are interested in hiring a foreign talent. The proccess is very complex and the outcome doesn't look very optimistic there.

I've also taken a look at Canada and its business schools, but not very close look.

Overall, financing opportunities are very important to me and US business schools provide those opportunities for the top students in their programs. So I went with the US and I got what I wanted.

Everything depends on your goals and the money that you can spend. If money is no object, then you can choose whatever you want. However, if you have limited funds, I suggest you look into US and Canada schools. If you need advice on how to get full-ride or scholarship from the school, I can help you out. I myself have positive experience with two schools.
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Thanks a lot for the response!

Apart from cost (tuition & living), why the initial interest in NZ?

Also, was your research limited to NZ and the US, or did you also consider Australia and/or Canada?

You're welcome :wink:
I was (and still am) interested in moving to NZ. I like the country and everything, so I spent much time figuring out how to move there. For me doing an MBA in the US and moving to NZ some time in the future looks more realistic and much cheaper than doing MBA in NZ and staying there.
I've also taken a look at Australian business schools, but there are two drawbacks there: they are even more expensive than the schools in NZ and there is practically no point of doing an MBA in Australia if you're not going to stay there. Even if you are, the chances of being hired after an MBA without having the work permit are close to zero. A very few companies will sponsor the visa for you, plus there are restrictions for the companies that are interested in hiring a foreign talent. The proccess is very complex and the outcome doesn't look very optimistic there.

I've also taken a look at Canada and its business schools, but not very close look.

Overall, financing opportunities are very important to me and US business schools provide those opportunities for the top students in their programs. So I went with the US and I got what I wanted.

Everything depends on your goals and the money that you can spend. If money is no object, then you can choose whatever you want. However, if you have limited funds, I suggest you look into US and Canada schools. If you need advice on how to get full-ride or scholarship from the school, I can help you out. I myself have positive experience with two schools.

Firstly, congratulations! :)

Money is most definitely a concern, as (I'm sure you already know) I'm currently working with one of if not thee most volatile currency in the world. :P

Please would you elaborate on why there's no point doing an MBA in Australia if you don't intend on staying?

I understand an MBA in no way guarantees a job in the country you studied but I can't imagine Australia being any more stringent than the US, Canada or NZ for that matter, or am I mistaken?
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Generally, an MBA from NZ will not be as reputable as those in the US / Europe, which is common knowledge.
However, if you like the country and want to live there, then there are some good universities in NZ, and of course it is a beautiful country to live in.
I have been to Auckland university for research seminars and have found the staff / research facilities to be very good. You would have to research your target industries and prospects post MBA as the number of opportunities might be limited as NZ is a small country.
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Probably the only thread in the forum talking about an MBA from New Zealand. I'm very much into looking to puruse my MBA from NZ for the following reasons :
*Unlike European countries,No language barrier. English does the job.
*Entire budget fits my pocket.
*Unlike MBA programs in the US which last for 2 years, programs in NZ are 12 to 18-months long.
*Unlike most of the biggies with class size of a few 100s, class size in NZ schools are way too small enabling healthier coordination.
*Availability of spring intake.
*International exchange with some highly reputed global b schools(Rotterdam, schulich and IIM-Ahmedabad for instance)


Want to know how good is my decision. Can I take this selection forward or should I reconsider my opinions.
Someone here please let me know about how good is New Zealand for an MBA, career growth, financial aids and other stuff.
If at all there is someone who feels New Zealand is not all that bad for an MBA, please let me know the best MBA program to opt for.

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Some of the value of an MBA is in personal development and the rest of it is in getting a job after graduating. What I have not seen in your reasons is how it would help you with either personal development or finding a job. You have only listed that it is inexpensive, shorter, works with your schedule, and possibly allows to start any time you want.... now I can't see how an employer would look at someone who went to a longer, harder, and bigger program and rejected them so that they could hire you.... it is about where you want to end up (does NZ allow you to work easily after graduation? I have no idea but I know Australia does not give a PR). Also, I know Australian employers do not value the MBA degrees as much as work experience and so the pay bump for someone with an MBA is not as meaningful in those other longer programs you did not like.
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Ohhhhh bb, have my heart.That is real good enlightenment. This is what I was looking for. Thanks a lot for this, this is really helpful :)
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Some of the value of an MBA is in personal development and the rest of it is in getting a job after graduating. What I have not seen in your reasons is how it would help you with either personal development or finding a job. You have only listed that it is inexpensive, shorter, works with your schedule, and possibly allows to start any time you want.... now I can't see how an employer would look at someone who went to a longer, harder, and bigger program and rejected them so that they could hire you.... it is about where you want to end up (does NZ allow you to work easily after graduation? I have no idea but I know Australia does not give a PR). Also, I know Australian employers do not value the MBA degrees as much as work experience and so the pay bump for someone with an MBA is not as meaningful in those other longer programs you did not like.

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