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# Noob in need of help

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13 Jul 2017, 19:02
Ive been trying to find a plan to study for GMAT and there is so much information that I'm completely lost.

I have a few questions and if you guys could help me it would be awesome.

1) How do I study for it? Do I divide my time equally among the subjects of the test? Should I just start doing random questions and checking the answers till I can ace them all?

2) I was thinking about getting the GMAT Official Guide 2018 Bundle: Books + Online, is that enough for a +700 score?

3) How many hours a day should I study? I was thinking on doing the test in September or maybe even next year.

I'm from Brazil and I have never done anything like this before, so I honestly have no clue how to even start it. I dont even know if Im asking the right questions.

Thanks for the help
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13 Jul 2017, 19:36
karek77 wrote:
Ive been trying to find a plan to study for GMAT and there is so much information that I'm completely lost.

I have a few questions and if you guys could help me it would be awesome.

1) How do I study for it? Do I divide my time equally among the subjects of the test? Should I just start doing random questions and checking the answers till I can ace them all?

2) I was thinking about getting the GMAT Official Guide 2018 Bundle: Books + Online, is that enough for a +700 score?

3) How many hours a day should I study? I was thinking on doing the test in September or maybe even next year.

I'm from Brazil and I have never done anything like this before, so I honestly have no clue how to even start it. I dont even know if Im asking the right questions.

Thanks for the help

Here is a post by bb, gmatclub founder, about the study guides for gmat.
https://gmatclub.com/forum/best-gmat-bo ... fl=similar
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13 Jul 2017, 20:08
Is the OG13 the same as GMAT Official Guide 2018 Bundle: Books + Online?
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13 Jul 2017, 20:53
Hi karek77,

Since it sounds like you're just beginning your studies, then it would be a good idea to take a FULL-LENGTH practice CAT Test; you can download 2 for free from www.mba.com (and they come with some additional practice materials). If you want to do a little studying first, so that you can familiarize yourself with the basic content and question types, then that's okay - but you shouldn't wait too long to take that initial CAT. That score will give us a good sense of your natural strengths and weaknesses and will help provide a basis for comparison as you continue to study. A FULL CAT takes about 4 hours to complete, so make sure that you've set aside enough time to take it in one sitting. Once you have those scores, you should report back here and we can come up with a study plan.

You ask a number of important questions, but until we have that first CAT score, it's difficult to give you a specific answer to any of those questions. The 700+ score is essentially the 90th percentile (meaning that 90% of Test Takers never score that high regardless of how many times they take the GMAT), so it's a tough goal and you will likely need more study resources than the ones that you've listed. In addition, many Test Takers spend 3 months (or more) of consistent, guided study before they hit their 'peak' scores, so you have to be prepared to put in some serious training time as part of this process. Thankfully, the GMAT is a consistent, predictable Exam, so you CAN train to score at a higher level.

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13 Jul 2017, 22:49
karek77 wrote:
Is the OG13 the same as GMAT Official Guide 2018 Bundle: Books + Online?
No. The 13th edition is an older version of the OG (this one), and the 2018 is the latest (this one). The 2018 is also available as a bundle here.
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13 Jul 2017, 22:52
EMPOWERgmatRichC wrote:
Hi karek77,

Since it sounds like you're just beginning your studies, then it would be a good idea to take a FULL-LENGTH practice CAT Test; you can download 2 for free from (and they come with some additional practice materials). If you want to do a little studying first, so that you can familiarize yourself with the basic content and question types, then that's okay - but you shouldn't wait too long to take that initial CAT. That score will give us a good sense of your natural strengths and weaknesses and will help provide a basis for comparison as you continue to study. A FULL CAT takes about 4 hours to complete, so make sure that you've set aside enough time to take it in one sitting. Once you have those scores, you should report back here and we can come up with a study plan.

You ask a number of important questions, but until we have that first CAT score, it's difficult to give you a specific answer to any of those questions. The 700+ score is essentially the 90th percentile (meaning that 90% of Test Takers never score that high regardless of how many times they take the GMAT), so it's a tough goal and you will likely need more study resources than the ones that you've listed. In addition, many Test Takers spend 3 months (or more) of consistent, guided study before they hit their 'peak' scores, so you have to be prepared to put in some serious training time as part of this process. Thankfully, the GMAT is a consistent, predictable Exam, so you CAN train to score at a higher level.

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EMPOWERgmatRichC thank you very much for your response.

I think I have done the CAT already and I scored 590 points from just the Verbal and Quantitative sections, I didnt do the Analytical Writing Assesment neither the Integrated Reasoning part of the test. (The CAT is from the GMAT prep from mba website right?). I started doing all this just today.

I do have a lot of time on my hands right now which I intend to fully commit for GMAT and Case Interviews studies.
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14 Jul 2017, 06:57
Hi karek77,

To start, a 590 is a good initial CAT score (the average score on the Official GMAT hovers around 540-550 most years). That having been said, you will likely still need at least another 2-3 months of consistent, guided study to hit your goal score. You didn't include your Quant and Verbal Scaled Scores - and that information is relevant, since we need to define the areas that you likely need to spend more time on. In addition, since many Business Schools expect applicants to score at a minimal level in the Essay section (for many many Programs, a score of 4.0 or higher is expected), so you have to make sure to take the FULL CAT each time and practice the Essay.

From your posts, it sounds like you have some flexibility as to when you can take the Official GMAT, so you could start studying however you choose. However, if you'd like to be efficient during your studies, you might want to consider investing in a GMAT Course of some type (either Guided Self-Study or instructor-led).

1) When are you planning to apply to Business School?
2) What Schools are you planning to apply to?

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14 Jul 2017, 07:42
I totally forgot I'm sorry

Q 44
V 27

It actually depends on how I'm doing with my studies, as I said I have lots of free time at the moment so I can totally focus on the studies.

Not sure about the schools, I started this thinking only on applying to a local school here but I don't know how scholarships on schools all over the world works. If I get a good enough score is it possible to get 100% scholarships? Do they offer housing? I wasnt kidding when I said I started all this yesterday

Do you recommend one of these GMAT Courses? Have in mind that US\$ is very expensive for me.

Thanks again for the help.

Do I just get a book and start (reading/doing exercises) from the beginning to end?
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15 Jul 2017, 02:08
Hi,

I will suggest you to start with a practice test and see your base performance. This will help you identify whether you need more focus on verbal or Quant. Then start grilling down each section topic wise. 2hrs a day will do
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16 Jul 2017, 20:49
Hi karek77,

From your posts, it does not sound like you have a clear timeline or clear end goal (meaning a specific, "first choice" Business School that you want to apply to). While that lack of specifics is not a bad thing, it's tough to offer advice when you don't have a clear sense of your own timeline and goals. As such, I suggest that you do a bit of research and try to put together a list of Schools/Programs that interest you. With that information, we can then determine the type of GMAT Score goal that you would need to be a competitive applicant and what it might take to apply for (and receive) a Scholarship to those Programs.

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16 Jul 2017, 20:49
Hi karek77,

From your posts, it does not sound like you have a clear timeline or clear end goal (meaning a specific, "first choice" Business School that you want to apply to). While that lack of specifics is not a bad thing, it's tough to offer advice when you don't have a clear sense of your own timeline and goals. As such, I suggest that you do a bit of research and try to put together a list of Schools/Programs that interest you. With that information, we can then determine the type of GMAT Score goal that you would need to be a competitive applicant and what it might take to apply for (and receive) a Scholarship to those Programs.

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18 Jul 2017, 02:24
jatin0705 wrote:
Hi,

I will suggest you to start with a practice test and see your base performance. This will help you identify whether you need more focus on verbal or Quant. Then start grilling down each section topic wise. 2hrs a day will do

Probably I got to start with that as well. Thanks for recommendations
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jatin0705 wrote:
Hi,

I will suggest you to start with a practice test and see your base performance. This will help you identify whether you need more focus on verbal or Quant. Then start grilling down each section topic wise. 2hrs a day will do

Probably I got to start with that as well. Thanks for recommendations

Agree with that approach. 2 hours a day will be fine - though on weekends, you should budget 4+ hours so you get a chance to dive much deeper.

During your studies, you may want to test yourself with this online question bank we have here: http://www.gmatpill.com/gmat-practice-test/

In general, we recommend a divide and conquer approach. Focus your studies on specific subsections -- such as SC, CR, etc.

Only when you feel comfortable should you start mixing various questions. The focus allows you to actually make improvement - while the mixing lets you experience what the actual exam will be like.

Hope that helps.
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