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On a Chippewa reservation in Wisconsin, young members of the tribe are using computers for learning their ancient language that was nearly forgotten.


(A) for learning their ancient language that was nearly forgotten

(B) for learning their ancient language that they nearly forgot

(C) to learn their ancient language, which they nearly forgot

(D) to learn their ancient and nearly forgotten language

(E) to learn their language that was ancient and nearly forgotten


What's wrong with a ?

I googled this question, but nobody mentioned why a was wrong(in fact, most people seemed to pick OA right away.)

The verb "use" has to be used with "to", not "for" like a ?
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What is wrong with C?

It even carries the meaning and intent of the original sentence.

How to know when parallelism is sneaking in between the meaning.


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On a Chippewa reservation in Wisconsin, young members of the tribe are using computers for learning their ancient language that was nearly forgotten.

(A) for learning their ancient language that was nearly forgotten

(B) for learning their ancient language that they nearly forgot

(C) to learn their ancient language, which they nearly forgot

(D) to learn their ancient and nearly forgotten language.

(E) to learn their language that was ancient and nearly forgotten

You can eliminate (A) and (B) easily enough based on the idiom error, but there's actually a pretty huge meaning difference between (C), (D), and (E).

In (C): "they" refers back to "young members of the tribe," so we have: "... young members of the tribe are using computers to learn their ancient language, which [young members of the tribe] nearly forgot." Wait -- that's suggesting that the problem is that the ancient Chippewa language was forgotten by the young members of the tribe.

But that's not what the sentence is trying to say: the heart of the sentence is that the ancient language has nearly been forgotten in general -- not just by young members of the tribe -- and that's why it's noteworthy that young Chippewas are learning the language on computers now. (D) conveys that meaning much more clearly.

I don't think anybody was all that worried about (E), but for what it's worth: it doesn't make sense to use the past tense in the phrase "their language that was ancient", since "ancient" is a general characteristic of the language -- not a characteristic that was only true in the past.

I hope this helps!
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On a Chippewa reservation in Wisconsin, young members of the tribe are using computers for learning their ancient language that was nearly forgotten.

(A) for learning their ancient language that was nearly forgotten => "For learning" is an incorrect Idiom. The Idiom should be "To Learn"

(B) for learning their ancient language that they nearly forgot => Same as A

(C) to learn their ancient language, which they nearly forgot => Implies that the young members forgot the language but it is actually that the ancient language was forgotten by every one

(D) to learn their ancient and nearly forgotten language. = > Correct

(E) to learn their language that was ancient and nearly forgotten => Awakward & wordy

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"to" expresses the intention more correctly than "for". Also, the 2 adjectives "ancient" & "nearly forgotten" are the same items, so they must be paralleled. Usage of "that" like choice A is awkward.
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Main line is in present tens and the logic says that the language is forgotten now.Hence using past tens wont be correct here.This makes A no-no.
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On a Chippewa reservation in Wisconsin, young members of the tribe are using computers for learning their ancient language that was nearly forgotten.

(A) for learning their ancient language that was nearly forgotten

(B) for learning their ancient language that they nearly forgot

(C) to learn their ancient language, which they nearly forgot

(D) to learn their ancient and nearly forgotten language.

(E) to learn their language that was ancient and nearly forgotten


What's wrong with a ?

I googled this question, but nobody mentioned why a was wrong(in fact, most people seemed to pick OA right away.)

The verb "use" has to be used with "to", not "for" like a ?

A is out because of "for". B and C change the meaning by explainig who forgot the language (in the original sentence we have no information). E is out since it changes the meaning
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What is wrong with C?

It even carries the meaning and intent of the original sentence.

How to know when parallelism is sneaking in between the meaning.
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On a Chippewa reservation in Wisconsin, young members of the tribe are using computers for learning their ancient language that was nearly forgotten.

(A) for learning their ancient language that was nearly forgotten

(B) for learning their ancient language that they nearly forgot

(C) to learn their ancient language, which they nearly forgot

(D) to learn their ancient and nearly forgotten language.

(E) to learn their language that was ancient and nearly forgotten



Need help to eliminate C, looks good and meaning is also the same

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a) is incorrect as 'that' is there, so same error as C. Also 'to learn' is correct idiom, not 'for learning'
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Meaning wise C is matching with original sentence , and i have not fount any major issue there ..D completely changes the intent
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Prashant10692 wrote:
What is wrong with C?

It even carries the meaning and intent of the original sentence.

How to know when parallelism is sneaking in between the meaning.


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On a Chippewa reservation in Wisconsin, young members of the tribe are using computers for learning their ancient language that was nearly forgotten.

(A) for learning their ancient language that was nearly forgotten

(B) for learning their ancient language that they nearly forgot

(C) to learn their ancient language, which they nearly forgot

(D) to learn their ancient and nearly forgotten language.

(E) to learn their language that was ancient and nearly forgotten

You can eliminate (A) and (B) easily enough based on the idiom error, but there's actually a pretty huge meaning difference between (C), (D), and (E).

In (C): "they" refers back to "young members of the tribe," so we have: "... young members of the tribe are using computers to learn their ancient language, which [young members of the tribe] nearly forgot." Wait -- that's suggesting that the problem is that the ancient Chippewa language was forgotten by the young members of the tribe.

But that's not what the sentence is trying to say: the heart of the sentence is that the ancient language has nearly been forgotten in general -- not just by young members of the tribe -- and that's why it's noteworthy that young Chippewas are learning the language on computers now. (D) conveys that meaning much more clearly.

I don't think anybody was all that worried about (E), but for what it's worth: it doesn't make sense to use the past tense in the phrase "their language that was ancient", since "ancient" is a general characteristic of the language -- not a characteristic that was only true in the past.

I hope this helps!



Hi , Can I have a little help from you?

Please explain me how to identify when to use FOR and when to use TO ?

I thought FOR is used for PURPOSE but in this question they are learning for a purpose But FOR is wrong!

Please help!
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In option D,
How and is parallelism marker ?
ancient is adjective modifing language
nearly is adverb modifing forgotten how are they parallel ?
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On a Chippewa reservation in Wisconsin, young members of the tribe are using computers for learning their ancient language that was nearly forgotten.

(A) for learning their ancient language that was nearly forgotten

(B) for learning their ancient language that they nearly forgot

(C) to learn their ancient language, which they nearly forgot

(D) to learn their ancient and nearly forgotten language.

(E) to learn their language that was ancient and nearly forgotten


1. use of past tense: Was the language only forgotten in past, giving a feeling that it has been revived now? Or has it been forgotten until now? One can appreciate that the ancient language has been forgotten until now.

Therefore the use of past tense is utterly wrong. We should remove A, B, C and E for this reason alone

We can see D is the most relevant since it scrupulously avoids the past tense.

2. for learning vs. to learn:
Why are the young members using computers?
- For a purpose, namely to learn the forgotten language- When a purpose is involved, the right thing is to use the infinitive. That is the reason 'to learn' is the correct idiom.

3. How can 'and' be a parallel marker?: True that ancient is an adjective and nearly forgotten is also an adjectival phrase. Since nearly is modifying the adjective forgotten, it does not interfere with the parallelism marked by the conjunction 'and'

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