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Princeton and other test scores : How indicative?

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Princeton and other test scores : How indicative? [#permalink] New post   31 Aug 2003, 02:55
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Its really good to see so many ppl writing in the forum with their experiences and other useful information. Well I am giveing the GMAT in Mid october and currently busy in my preparations for the same. As a measure of my overall progress I decided to take PP test last week after 3 weeks of preparation and scored a 680 (Q-46 V-36) . I decided to work hard on my verbal and took to OG . I tend to practice under timed conditions to simulate the exam in some sense . My verbal accuracy after going thru OG has increased and I get somewhere b/w 30-35 right on an average . I tried to test my preogress on Princeton and was amazed to see that though I acheived 32/41 right in the exam my net score was 34 and Quant was 44(32 right) .My overall score said 620... It seemed a little weird to me and left me wondering the accuracy of these scores. Can anyone let me know if at all they are reliable or its only PP which gives one a fair indication of the true score. Also are the first 5 questions more important in final score than the others. Thanks guys and do write in with ur views , suggestions etc... Best of Luck to all here !
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[#permalink] New post   31 Aug 2003, 08:36
PR's scores are pretty close to what you can expect on test day. I have not used Kaplan but have read that you should add 50-100 points to their scores to get an idea of your real scores. Powerprep scores ought to be the closest because they are the real thing.

The first several questions, like the first 8-10, are indeed the most important for your score. Devote more time to these than subsequent questions, but be sure to pace yourself. The PR book has good techniques for this.

Don't get too bogged down with the actual scores of your practice tests just yet. Keep going through the OG and get a solid feel for how the questions are structured. Probably better to do a few hours of one question type at a time - all SC, all RC, all data sufficiency - so you can really pick up on the patterns.

It will come together, just keep at it!
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[#permalink] New post   31 Aug 2003, 08:50
I have found that PP is more forgiving, both in the amount you can get wrong, and "when" you get them wrong.

PR questions are a bit easier, but if you get anything wrong in the first ten you get a big penalty. Also, they don't consider experimental questions. I got 6 Verbal wrong and 4 Quant wrong (one was completely a PR correcting error) and i ended up with a 670.
On PP1 I got 4 quant wrong and 5 verbal wrong (including the first quant and two out of the first three verbal) and I ended up with a 740.

However, if you use OG before any of the PPs, I do not thing the PP score is very respresentative.

Also of note, Princeton uses questions from its book on the tests, which may inflate scores if you use the book first. I have also heard of them repeating questions on different CAT tests. These companies need to get their acts together (although they won't as long as we're willing to pony up $30 a pop).

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[#permalink] New post   31 Aug 2003, 09:51
I'm with Htown on this one. I scored an average of low to mid 600's on the PR exams, and mid 700's on the power prep exams. My final score was much closer to my powerprep scores. Take PR exams to improve your test taking ability (pacing etc.), and try to improve with their scoring system. But don't take the actual numbers seriously. Just look for improvement from one PR to the next. On the other hand my first PR score was higher than my last one, and my PP's were consistently higher than both. Also I believe that BB had reported that he scored a 750 without ever scoring higher than 640 on princeton exams. In short, don't let those scores bring you down. Good luck.
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[#permalink] New post   31 Aug 2003, 21:25
Well as far as PP goes in terms of predicting ones scores , I would like to differ on that one as most of us are already onto OG before we give the PP which often leads to inflated scores. And thats the reason I gave the PP before I really started to use OG to see where I am and am sure if I givbe the test2 at the end of using OG I would have an inflated score. So not too sure if these tests are useful to predict ur accurate score. I agree the no of questions one gets right is a fair indication than anything else.
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[#permalink] New post   01 Sep 2003, 00:36
Agreed. I don't know why people take the first PP before the OG and the second PP after the OG (and right before the test). I understand that one might want to take an official practice "right" before the real deal for a confidence boost, but the score cannot be representative that way. I took both PPs before I hit the OG. If i need to take an official practice after, I'll just redo PP1 or 2.

Anyway, my suggestion: PR -> Kaplan -> PP1 -> Concentrate on areas in which you scored poorly on PP1 -> PP2 -> OG -> error log -> PP 1 -> GMAT -> top 10 Bschool

I'm taking the GMAT in mid September (I am in the OG phase of my prep).

By the way, I think a funny SC would be "
I am giving my test in mid September. With possible answers such as "I am writing my test in mid September" and "I am taking my test in mid September" I think if this question were asked, 90% of the people on this board would get it wrong.

Anyway, cheers

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[#permalink] New post   01 Sep 2003, 00:48
yeah thats very much true and gives a true picture and the areas to improve before the exam. Whats been ur scores on PP before u hit OG. One thing more I felt that practicing on OG and practicing on a computer has quite a few differences. One tesnds to get more tired working on the PC. So I would suggest that the more time one spends on the computer practicing , the better it is. Just my personal experience.
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[#permalink] New post   01 Sep 2003, 09:12
PP1 a couple of weeks ago = 740
PP2 yesterday = 730

Hopefully these will be representative, although everyone seems to say the actual quant is more difficult (and currently I'm doing marginally better on verbal Q48 V42 split)

I'm about to hit the OG today. I have some more CAT tests to take (2 PRs and 5 Arcos) so that I don't get too used to paper-based questions.
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[#permalink] New post   01 Sep 2003, 19:02
Htown, I think you just asked a question and answered it. Many people take a PP the day before the test as practice, not because they assume that the score will be identical to what they receive on the real thing. Even if the score you receive isn't representative, it still gives you scoring information (such as..how many you can miss and still get a particular score). This is useful to those who've been using junk software from prep companies.
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[#permalink] New post   11 Sep 2003, 07:42
I gave 3 tests in Princeton..

First = 590
Second 710
Third 710

Actual GMAT 620(96% Quan and was disappointed after getting the score I though Princeton FLT(Full length tests) were very easy..
I was expecting 700 at least..Giving the exam again..Aiming for 700 again and using ARCO's CD this time..Wish me luck Please..
I am bored of politics in my current Job
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[#permalink] New post   12 Sep 2003, 00:43
PR scores: 720, 730, 730
PP scores: 720, 770

Real one - 710
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