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Proponents of artificial intelligence say they will be able to make computers that can understand English and other human languages, recognize objects, and reason as an expert does—computers that will be used to diagnose equipment breakdowns, deciding whether to authorize a loan, or other purposes such as these.

(A) as an expert does—computers that will be used to diagnose equipment breakdowns, deciding whether to authorize a loan, or other purposes such as these

(B) as an expert does, which may be used for purposes such as diagnosing equipment breakdowns or deciding whether to authorize a loan

(C) like an expert—computers that will be used for such purposes as diagnosing equipment breakdowns or deciding whether to authorize a loan

(D) like an expert, the use of which would be for purposes like the diagnosis of equipment breakdowns or the decision whether or not a loan should be authorized

(E) like an expert, to be used to diagnose equipment breakdowns, deciding whether to authorize a loan or not, or the like
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Proponents of artificial intelligence say they will be able to make computers that can understand English and other human languages, recognize objects, and reason as an expert does—computers that will be used to diagnose equipment breakdowns, deciding whether to authorize a loan, or other purposes such as these.
(A) as an expert does—computers that will be used to diagnose equipment breakdowns, deciding whether to authorize a loan, or other purposes such as these
(B) as an expert does, which may be used for purposes such as diagnosing equipment breakdowns or deciding whether to authorize a loan
(C) like an expert—computers that will be used for such purposes as diagnosing equipment breakdowns or deciding whether to authorize a loan
(D) like an expert, the use of which would be for purposes like the diagnosis of equipment breakdowns or the decision whether or not a loan should be authorized
(E) like an expert, to be used to diagnose equipment breakdowns, deciding whether to authorize a loan or not, or the like


ANS should be C. Here, "like an expert" is better in usage than "as an expert does". Only C, D, and E left. Errors in D are shown above. ANd E...I don't know what it says ^^.
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New post 19 Sep 2008, 17:28
cannot be C,D,E "like" is wrong !

"as..does.." is the correct way

Now the other two A and B have their own problems :

in B "which" is ambiguous

A is awkward becoz of he last [part of the sentence

but still
i will prefer A
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The ans is C here is why.

the key to this question is to realize that this question tests //ism . The perpetual dilemma "like vs as" is irrelevant here.

we are given "computers that can understand English verb + noun and other human languages, recognize objects verb + noun, and reason verb+....."
now to make this sentence // we need a noun like an expert. If we try to use "as an expert does" we will eliminate //ism by introducing a verb - "as an expert does" thus wrong.

Now we are ready to take on the rest:

Quote:
(A) as an expert does verb "does" is not // to the sentence structure—computers that will be used to diagnose equipment breakdowns, deciding whether to authorize a loan, or other purposes such as these again not //
(B) as an expert does verb "does" is not // to the sentence structure, which may be used for purposes such as diagnosing equipment breakdowns or deciding whether to authorize a loan which must modify a noun directly preceding it
(C) like an expert—computers that will be used for such purposes as diagnosing equipment breakdowns or deciding whether to authorize a loan
(D) like an expert, the use of which would be for purposes like the diagnosis of equipment breakdowns or the decision whether or not a loan should be authorized the use of which should not modify "an expert" and whether or not-- always wrong on gmat 'cos the "or not" part is considered redundant
(E) like an expert, to be used to diagnose equipment breakdowns, deciding whether to authorize a loan or not, or the like to be used and deciding should not modify an expert



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C for //.

Narrow down to CDE first and eliminate DE for awkwardness.
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New post 20 Nov 2008, 17:38
Agree with stallone on cde being wrong

B is wrong : Will be reqd instead of May be - In question will be is used
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A & B goes out for usage of as/like is required to comapre with an expert
C should be the answer of C, D, & E, for parallel structure of diagnosing, deciding
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Proponents of artificial intelligence say they will be able to make computers that can understand English and other human languages, recognize objects, and reason as an expert does—computers that will be used to diagnose equipment breakdowns, deciding whether to authorize a loan, or other purposes such as these.
(A) as an expert does—computers that will be used to diagnose equipment breakdowns, deciding whether to authorize a loan, or other purposes such as these
(B) as an expert does, which may be used for purposes such as diagnosing equipment breakdowns or deciding whether to authorize a loan
(C) like an expert—computers that will be used for such purposes as diagnosing equipment breakdowns or deciding whether to authorize a loan
(D) like an expert, the use of which would be for purposes like the diagnosis of equipment breakdowns or the decision whether or not a loan should be authorized
(E) like an expert, to be used to diagnose equipment breakdowns, deciding whether to authorize a loan or not, or the like


The ans is "C"

A and B is ruled out for using "as an" instead of "like".
"as" is used to give an example. Here as is used to modify the subject "computer" while "like" is modifying the subject computer correctly by comparing "computer" with "expert".

We are left with C,D,E.

D -- "like an expert, the use of which" here "which" is refering to "expert" incorrectly, while the same should refer Computer . so D is ruled out.
E -- "to be used to diagnose equipment breakdowns, deciding whether to authorize a loan or not, or the like" --"to diagnose" and "deciding" violating the rule of parallelism.

so we are left with option C which is using like with a view to compare expert and computer correctly and also follows the rule of parallelism correclty by using "diagnosing" and "deciding".

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Hi guys,

IMO D

First, reducing to CDE, like is better

(C) like an expert—computers that will be used for such purposes as diagnosing equipment breakdowns or deciding whether to authorize a loan
(D) like an expert, the use of which would be for purposes like the diagnosis of equipment breakdowns or the decision whether or not a loan should be authorized
(E) like an expert, to be used to diagnose equipment breakdowns, deciding whether to authorize a loan or not, or the like

C - discarded because of "-"
E - wordy

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C

its b/w "as" & "like". Like wins because we are comparing nouns.

"whether or not" is redundant, its always WRONG on GMAT.
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its b/w "as" & "like". Like wins because we are comparing nouns.

"whether or not" is redundant, its always WRONG on GMAT.


mmm, this is a very good rule, could you please post the source of the rule? Thanks
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pawan203 wrote:
C

its b/w "as" & "like". Like wins because we are comparing nouns.

"whether or not" is redundant, its always WRONG on GMAT.


mmm, this is a very good rule, could you please post the source of the rule? Thanks


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JohnLewis1980 wrote:
pawan203 wrote:
C

its b/w "as" & "like". Like wins because we are comparing nouns.

"whether or not" is redundant, its always WRONG on GMAT.


mmm, this is a very good rule, could you please post the source of the rule? Thanks


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Thank you pawan, but I'm reviewing both Manhattan SC and SC Guide and I've not found anything about "whether or not"

In fact, "whether or not" appears as idioms on Manhattan SC Guide

Quote:
whether to do something or not


I'd like to clarify this point since I'm taking the exam next 25th :yak

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Proponents of artificial intelligence say they will be able to make computers that can understand English and other human languages, recognize objects, and reason as an expert does—computers that will be used to diagnose equipment breakdowns, deciding whether to authorize a loan, or other purposes such as these.

(A) as an expert does—computers that will be used to diagnose equipment breakdowns, deciding whether to authorize a loan, or other purposes such as these
(B) as an expert does, which may be used for purposes such as diagnosing equipment breakdowns or deciding whether to authorize a loan
(C) like an expert—computers that will be used for such purposes as diagnosing equipment breakdowns or deciding whether to authorize a loan
(D) like an expert, the use of which would be for purposes like the diagnosis of equipment breakdowns or the decision whether or not a loan should be authorized
(E) like an expert, to be used to diagnose equipment breakdowns, deciding whether to authorize a loan or not, or the like
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i'm gonna go with B...although reason as an expert doesn't sound really nice...but for purposes such as sound right however...
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Proponents of artificial intelligence say they will be able to make computers that can
understand English and other human languages, recognize objects, and reason as an
expert does—computers that will be used to diagnose equipment breakdowns,
deciding whether to authorize a loan, or other purposes such as these.
(A) as an expert does—computers that will be used to diagnose equipment
breakdowns, deciding whether to authorize a loan, or other purposes such as
these
(B) as an expert does, which may be used for purposes such as diagnosing
equipment breakdowns or deciding whether to authorize a loan
(C) like an expert—computers that will be used for such purposes as diagnosing
equipment breakdowns or deciding whether to authorize a loan

(D) like an expert, the use of which would be for purposes like the diagnosis of
equipment breakdowns or the decision whether or not a loan should be
authorized
(E) like an expert, to be used to diagnose equipment breakdowns, deciding
whether to authorize a loan or not, or the like


C for me!

A & B: Computers can blah blah blah like an expert, NOT as an expert does.
D: "the use of which would be for purposes like........" -- passive so out.
E: Seems something is missing, what is to be used? the experts, the computer,
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Proponents of artificial intelligence say they will be able to make computers that can
understand English and other human languages, recognize objects, and reason as an
expert does—computers that will be used to diagnose equipment breakdowns,
deciding whether to authorize a loan, or other purposes such as these.
(A) as an expert does—computers that will be used to diagnose equipment
breakdowns, deciding whether to authorize a loan, or other purposes such as
these
(B) as an expert does, which may be used for purposes such as diagnosing
equipment breakdowns or deciding whether to authorize a loan
(C) like an expert—computers that will be used for such purposes as diagnosing
equipment breakdowns or deciding whether to authorize a loan
(D) like an expert, the use of which would be for purposes like the diagnosis of
equipment breakdowns or the decision whether or not a loan should be
authorized
(E) like an expert, to be used to diagnose equipment breakdowns, deciding
whether to authorize a loan or not, or the like


A: "or other purposes such as these" wordy
B: which cannot modify expert does
C: seems right
D: same as be
E: last part not parallel
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i'm gonna go with B...although reason as an expert doesn't sound really nice...but for purposes such as sound right however...

B is not clear what "which" is modifying.
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(A) as an expert does—computers that will be used to diagnose equipment
breakdowns, deciding whether to authorize a loan, or other purposes such as
these - diagonse and deciding not ||

(B) as an expert does, which may be used for purposes such as diagnosing
equipment breakdowns or deciding whether to authorize a loan - which is a wrong modifier for 'expert does'
(C) like an expert—computers that will be used for such purposes as diagnosing
equipment breakdowns or deciding whether to authorize a loan - deciding and diagnosing are ||

(D) like an expert, the use of which would be for purposes like the diagnosis of
equipment breakdowns or the decision whether or not a loan should be
authorized - diagnosis not || to decision


(E) like an expert, to be used to diagnose equipment breakdowns, deciding
whether to authorize a loan or not, or the like - diagnose not || to deciding



Additional relevant info :


like is used to compare nouns . ex: Joe is like JOhn
as is used to compare verbs . ex: Joe writes as John does.
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(A) as an expert does—computers that will be used to diagnose equipment
breakdowns, deciding whether to authorize a loan, or other purposes such as
these - diagonse and deciding not ||

(B) as an expert does, which may be used for purposes such as diagnosing
equipment breakdowns or deciding whether to authorize a loan - which is a wrong modifier for 'expert does'
(C) like an expert—computers that will be used for such purposes as diagnosing
equipment breakdowns or deciding whether to authorize a loan - deciding and diagnosing are ||

(D) like an expert, the use of which would be for purposes like the diagnosis of
equipment breakdowns or the decision whether or not a loan should be
authorized - diagnosis not || to decision


(E) like an expert, to be used to diagnose equipment breakdowns, deciding
whether to authorize a loan or not, or the like - diagnose not || to deciding



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like is used to compare nouns . ex: Joe is like JOhn
as is used to compare verbs . ex: Joe writes as John does.


well, I m confused here
we are comparing computer's reasoning to that of an expert's. So as should come here
if there has been a comparison between computers and experts then like would have been correct.
Hence I mark A as an answer

any comments ??

pls explain in detail, the usage of as and like with examples. Its confusing. Although I know the above mentioned rule, but i get confused while doing SC.
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