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Records from the latter half of the 19th century show that in 1876 in Westbridge County there were 1,200 landowners, nearly 12 percent of the state landowner population, three times as many as 1852.

A three times as many as 1852

B three times as much as 1852

C triple what it was in 1852

D triple the figure for 1852

E thrice the number that was recorded in 1852
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As I know when we use direc numbers like here "1200 landowners" it is better to use multiplying form like "thrice or three times" than "three times as.... as" form. So, I selected E. But dictionary says that "triple" is also possible


Hey Temurkhon,

You bring out a very good point: When to use twice/thrice/three times, when to use double/triple?

I have found some information from the following website: http://www.beatthegmat.com/question-wit ... 63536.html

As per their discussion:

Why E is wrong : "Thrice is an adverb and can not modify a noun. "

D is correct because double/triple are adjectives, so can modify noun.

For further clarity :

"Twice": "Twice" CANNOT function as an object of the preposition such as "by".
"Twice" is an adverb.
Example:
"... increased by more than twice .." -- WRONG!

On a similar note, "DOUBLE" is an adjective and can not modify verb, but since "Twice" is an adverb it can modify Verb.
Example:-
The same amount of acreage produces double the apple.... -- WRONG
The same amount of acreage produces twice as many apples..... -CORRECT

"twice as many as":

"..., twice as many as ..." is an APPOSITIVE modifier. Appositives must modify some noun that comes immediately before the comma.


However, I am not satisfied with this explanation. I hope that some experts will give their thoughts about this usage!

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What is the source of this problem....
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A three times as many as 1852 --- comparing population with 1852 --wrong

B three times as much as 1852 --- same as in A--- wrong

C triple what it was in 1852 ----"It" is creating ambiguity --- wrong

D triple the figure for 1852 --- concise and correct

E thrice the number that was recorded in 1852 -- correct but wordy
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Answer should be D as in option A,B we are doing wrong comparison.E is wordy and in Option C it's antecedent is ambiguous
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A three times as many as 1852 --- comparing population with 1852 --wrong

B three times as much as 1852 --- same as in A--- wrong

C triple what it was in 1852 ----"It" is creating ambiguity --- wrong

D triple the figure for 1852 --- concise and correct

E thrice the number that was recorded in 1852 -- correct but wordy

Originally posted by mohit878 on 31 Mar 2013, 23:36.
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Edited.....Obv it was E... :-D
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Answer should be D as in option A,B we are doing wrong comparison.D is wordy and in Option C it's antecedent is ambiguous
aquarius24 wrote:
A three times as many as 1852 --- comparing population with 1852 --wrong

B three times as much as 1852 --- same as in A--- wrong

C triple what it was in 1852 ----"It" is creating ambiguity --- wrong

D triple the figure for 1852 --- concise and correct

E thrice the number that was recorded in 1852 -- correct but wordy



Did you mean "E is wordy"?
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So finally, the correct answer is E or D?
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http://grockit.com/blog/gmat/2011/12/23/gmat-8-rules-of-diction-for-non-native-speakers/


Hi Carcass,

What does this sentence compare? 1,200 landowners in 1876 and # of landowners in 1852 or landowner population in 1876 and landowner population in 1852? I think # of landowners is landowner population, right?

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As I know when we use direc numbers like here "1200 landowners" it is better to use multiplying form like "thrice or three times" than "three times as.... as" form. So, I selected E. But dictionary says that "triple" is also possible
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Temurkhon wrote:
As I know when we use direc numbers like here "1200 landowners" it is better to use multiplying form like "thrice or three times" than "three times as.... as" form. So, I selected E. But dictionary says that "triple" is also possible


Hey Temurkhon,

You bring out a very good point: When to use twice/thrice/three times, when to use double/triple?

I have found some information from the following website: http://www.beatthegmat.com/question-wit ... 63536.html

As per their discussion:

Why E is wrong : "Thrice is an adverb and can not modify a noun. "

D is correct because double/triple are adjectives, so can modify noun.

For further clarity :

"Twice": "Twice" CANNOT function as an object of the preposition such as "by".
"Twice" is an adverb.
Example:
"... increased by more than twice .." -- WRONG!

On a similar note, "DOUBLE" is an adjective and can not modify verb, but since "Twice" is an adverb it can modify Verb.
Example:-
The same amount of acreage produces double the apple.... -- WRONG
The same amount of acreage produces twice as many apples..... -CORRECT

"twice as many as":

"..., twice as many as ..." is an APPOSITIVE modifier. Appositives must modify some noun that comes immediately before the comma.


However, I am not satisfied with this explanation. I hope that some experts will give their thoughts about this usage!

Lucy



thanks, Lucy

for me becomes clear that A and B impossible because they do not have nouns after "three times as...as". C is wrong because uses adjective without noun. D is correct using adjective with noun. E is wrong using adverb with noun
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Records from the latter half of the 19th century show that in 1876 in Westbridge County there were 1,200 landowners, nearly 12 percent of the state landowner population, three times as many as 1852.

Intended meaning -> comparing 1200 landowners in 1876 to landowners in 1852

A three times as many as 1852 -> in is missing

B three times as much as 1852 -> much cannot be used to compare countable nouns

C triple what it was in 1852 -> it -> what does it refer to?

D triple the figure for 1852 -> for can be replaced with in and is correct.

E thrice the number that was recorded in 1852 -> this option can be written as "thrice the number in 1852". rest of the sentence is not required.
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What if "nearly 12 percent of the state landowner population," was removed? Would the sentence below be correct?

Records from the latter half of the 19th century show that in 1876 in Westbridge County there were 1,200 landowners, three times as many as 1852.

I am trying to understand if the ",three times" has to come directly after what it references to or if it comes down to some other rule.
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LucyDang wrote:
Temurkhon wrote:
As I know when we use direc numbers like here "1200 landowners" it is better to use multiplying form like "thrice or three times" than "three times as.... as" form. So, I selected E. But dictionary says that "triple" is also possible


Hey Temurkhon,

You bring out a very good point: When to use twice/thrice/three times, when to use double/triple?

I have found some information from the following website: http://www.beatthegmat.com/question-wit ... 63536.html

As per their discussion:

Why E is wrong : "Thrice is an adverb and can not modify a noun. "

D is correct because double/triple are adjectives, so can modify noun.

For further clarity :

"Twice": "Twice" CANNOT function as an object of the preposition such as "by".
"Twice" is an adverb.
Example:
"... increased by more than twice .." -- WRONG!

On a similar note, "DOUBLE" is an adjective and can not modify verb, but since "Twice" is an adverb it can modify Verb.
Example:-
The same amount of acreage produces double the apple.... -- WRONG
The same amount of acreage produces twice as many apples..... -CORRECT

"twice as many as":

"..., twice as many as ..." is an APPOSITIVE modifier. Appositives must modify some noun that comes immediately before the comma.


However, I am not satisfied with this explanation. I hope that some experts will give their thoughts about this usage!

Lucy



thanks, Lucy

for me becomes clear that A and B impossible because they do not have nouns after "three times as...as". C is wrong because uses adjective without noun. D is correct using adjective with noun. E is wrong using adverb with noun


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Records from the latter half of the 19th century show that in 1876 in Westbridge County there were 1,200 landowners, nearly 12 percent of the state landowner population, three times as many as 1852.

A three times as many as 1852

B three times as much as 1852

C triple what it was in 1852

D triple the figure for 1852

E thrice the number that was recorded in 1852


in E, the number that was recored in 1852 make no sense.
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Records from the latter half of the 19th century show that in 1876 in Westbridge County there were 1,200 landowners, nearly 12 percent of the state landowner population, three times as many as 1852.


A three times as many as 1852
comparing figures with year. no

B three times as much as 1852
landowners is countable - should be many - out

C triple what it was in 1852
it refers to landowners - incorrect.

D triple the figure for 1852
looks good to me.

E thrice the number that was recorded in 1852
thrice - is it a real word?i don't think it's good on GMAT, and D looks more concise...
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Why is "triple the figure for 1852" correct? Isnt "triple the figure of 1852" idiomatically correct?

Please help...in this case I choose C because triple the number of landowners sounds sounds better? What am i doing wrong here?
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Hi daagh Sir,
I got a doubt in below question

Records from the latter half of the 19th century show that in 1876 in Westbridge County there were 1,200 landowners, nearly 12 percent of the state landowner population, three times as many as 1852.

A three times as many as 1852

B three times as much as 1852

C triple what it was in 1852

D triple the figure for 1852 (oa)

E thrice the number that was recorded in 1852

Doesn't figure in option D is ambiguous. It can represent that 12% or 1200.
If it is not.
What is it specifying : 12% or 1200 ?
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Could you explain above SC question. How "for" is correct in option D?

How "triple the figure.." is modifying 1200 landowners in Westbridge County?

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Hi daagh Sir,
I got a doubt in below question

Records from the latter half of the 19th century show that in 1876 in Westbridge County there were 1,200 landowners, nearly 12 percent of the state landowner population, three times as many as 1852.

A three times as many as 1852

B three times as much as 1852

C triple what it was in 1852

D triple the figure for 1852 (oa)

E thrice the number that was recorded in 1852

Doesn't figure in option D is ambiguous. It can represent that 12% or 1200.
If it is not.
What is it specifying : 12% or 1200 ?


Remove non-essential modifier...

In 1876 in Westbridge County there were 1,200 landowners, triple the figure for 1852.......As per some above post it is same as "in 1876 in Westbridge County there were 1,200 landowners, triple the figure in 1852"....


though i am not sure about my approach.
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