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Curious what you mean by MIT helps with the network? How?

And... kids? What does that supposed to mean?

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Let’s just say that I dated a girl from the MSx program

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Welcome to GMAT Club and congratulations on your admits and hard work! Also, thank you for sharing your research! A quick reply in before a work meeting, so sorry, I will be brief.

It is a bit tricky to answer the question not knowing the specifics of what you are planning to leverage an MBA for but I think you have provided enough details. There is definitely cost vs. Brand question and it boils down to this:
1. MSx and Sloan Fellows does not really do much on campus recruiting; you are expected to recruit on your own. I would say Judge would be the same way for your age/experience/background.
2. The types of interviews, positions, and opportunities you get with GSB and Sloan vs. Judge will be vastly different. Do you have big brands on your resume or something that will help you storm the recruiting process or something that will make you look great with a Judge MBA? If not, then I would recommend against Judge.
3. If you are planning to be an entrepreneur, work for a non profit, etc - area that will potentially restrict your income potential in exchange for other benefits, I would only then consider Judge which would be much cheaper though even then, I feel you would be much more successful if you went to school with a bunch of middle-aged execs than 26-year old wanna be's :)


P.S. I have known an alum from the GSB program who graduated a number of years ago back when it was Stanford Sloan program. He was extremely positive about it and quite proud of the program. I got an impression that it was a diverse program but a popular one with the local VC/Tech/Entrepreneurs who wanted to take a year off and blow off steam and up their game. I would definitely pick MSx if you were going into VC or Tech or Silicon Valley. I range of rank/reputation/difference between GSB MSx and MIT Sloan Program is definitely a lot smaller than anyone of these and Judge, so if you are not pursuing Silicon Valley/VC route, MIT is a strong option as well; good name recognition outside of the US. (I still need to read up about the latest updates to the MSx program; I know it's changed since I have sat down and talked to one of the alums)

Thanks for your thoughtful response bb! I agree it would be easier if I had a very specific goal, for now I only have about as much clarity as I put in my post there. My resume is not stacked with big brands, no, as I've been almost exclusively in the non-profit world and within that the majority of my experience comes from my own entrepreneurial activities. For what it's worth, I was named to the Forbes 30 Under 30 in 2018; I feel my background is probably enough for many employers to pause and consider me as a diverse, unique candidate, a non-traditional background that would merit a second look. But then I need to ground my entrepreneurial experiences in a concrete narrative, so an employer would know what I want / what I'm suitable for. That said, I'm not looking for a cookie-cutter post-MBA track, and would plan on finding my next opportunity via the network as opposed to your typical structured recruiting events, so that's not so great a concern.
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So you weren't impressed by the caliber of the MSx students?
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Oh. This makes more sense now. So she dumped you and now you’re giving MSX a bad rep? :lol:

FYI - What I hear consistently from Judge and Said and also IE grads is lack of on campus opportunities to recruit. A number of people going back to their home countries, industries, etc unable to score new/better jobs. Recruiters don’t have a ton of time to review each applicant and hear their back story. They will get applications from Stanford, Harvard, Insead, and likely MIT. Those guys will qualify for the top roles and offers if there is a match in experience and skill set. The Judge and Said folks may get offers for operations roles but will not get considered for the PPM or PM roles unless someone backs out later in the recruiting.

Talking about a program is one thing but reputation, selectivity, and rank is different when it comes to recruiting.
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I would talk with some of the current students and recent alumni to get a sense of what’s going on in the programs (all of them). You seem to be a person who does a lot of due diligence :-) so I’m expecting you’ll be talking to a number of folks. I don’t know if karroty still active. I think they graduated this year.
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In this case, I would also consider a fourth option - none of the above. What is the reason for the MBA? Is it to grow in a certain area? to take a breather and figure out your next steps? to ease the transition? I would keep the 4th option in the consideration potentially - what if you leverage your background and your network now? What is program X then giving you? (not challenging you but you owe it to yourself to make a well-rounded decision, esp if you end up taking one of the high price tag programs.)


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Thanks for your thoughtful response bb! I agree it would be easier if I had a very specific goal, for now I only have about as much clarity as I put in my post there. My resume is not stacked with big brands, no, as I've been almost exclusively in the non-profit world and within that the majority of my experience comes from my own entrepreneurial activities. For what it's worth, I was named to the Forbes 30 Under 30 in 2018; I feel my background is probably enough for many employers to pause and consider me as a diverse, unique candidate, a non-traditional background that would merit a second look. But then I need to ground my entrepreneurial experiences in a concrete narrative, so an employer would know what I want / what I'm suitable for. That said, I'm not looking for a cookie-cutter post-MBA track, and would plan on finding my next opportunity via the network as opposed to your typical structured recruiting events, so that's not so great a concern.
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So you weren't impressed by the caliber of the MSx students?

Knowing her and her friends from the program, I think the MSx program definitely gets in some of the smartest kids (she was smart to date me!), but I feel that these programs function as MBAs for execs and not EMBAs, which leaves a sense of ambiguity in the minds of recruiters and adjuncts. She graduated not too long ago (don’t want to give a lot of information here) and she’s working for a startup in the Bay Area that’s doing AI stuff. That’s what three quarters of Bay Area is working on now (with the rest being homeless because of expensive housing).

Was that her first choice? No! Was that the best option... yes. Knowing her intelligence and her global work experience in Europe and Asia and South America, I think she could do better at any other school in a real MBA program.

But - She’s among the first few employees of the company and if they go IPO, I’ll regret not being with her.

So if you need additional insight, talk to people about jobs after those programs... use the power of the World Wide Web and LinkedIn and Google.

With EMBAs and MBAs there is a defined role for participants, professors, recruiters and adjuncts which MSx and Sloan fellow lack.
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