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The original Ancient Greek gymnasiums were incredibly advanced and had more in common with our modern universities than with our local fitness clubs, holding lectures and discussions on philosophy, literature, and music, and offering free public libraries, long before teachers such as Plato and Aristotle had begun their work.

A) had more in common with our modern universities than with our local fitness clubs, holding lectures and discussions on philosophy, literature, and music, and offering free public libraries, long before teachers such as Plato and Aristotle had begun their work

B) held lectures, discussed philosophy, literature, and music, and offered free public libraries long before teachers such as Plato and Aristotle began their work, having more in common with our modern universities than our local fitness clubs

C) had more in common with our modern universities than with our local fitness clubs, holding lectures and discussions on philosophy, literature, and music, and offering libraries free to the public, long before teachers such as Plato and Aristotle began their work

D) have more in common with our modern universities than our local fitness clubs; they held lectures and discussions on philosophy, literature, and music, and offered libraries free to the public, long before teachers such as Plato and Aristotle had begun their work

E) were more like our modern universities than our local fitness clubs, holding lectures and discussions on philosophy, literature, and music as well as offering free public libraries, long before teachers such as Plato or Aristotle had begun their work
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is it E?? for parallelism.

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The original Ancient Greek gymnasiums were incredibly advanced and had more in common with our modern universities than with our local fitness clubs, holding lectures and discussions on philosophy, literature, and music, and offering free public libraries, long before teachers such as Plato and Aristotle had begun their work.


A)had more in common with our modern universities than with our local fitness clubs, holding lectures and discussions on philosophy, literature, and music, and offering free public libraries, long before teachers such as Plato and Aristotle had begun their work
trick here. "free public" is redundant

B)held lectures, discussed philosophy, literature, and music, and offered free public libraries long before teachers such as Plato and Aristotle began their work, having more in common with our modern universities than our local fitness clubs
The same as A

C)had more in common with our modern universities than with our local fitness clubs, holding lectures and discussions on philosophy, literature, and music, and offering libraries free to the public, long before teachers such as Plato and Aristotle began their work
The correct answer.

D)have more in common with our modern universities than our local fitness clubs; they held lectures and discussions on philosophy, literature, and music, and offered libraries free to the public, long before teachers such as Plato and Aristotle had begun their work
"have" is wrong here. "they" is amgibuous.

E)were more like our modern universities than our local fitness clubs, holding lectures and discussions on philosophy, literature, and music as well as offering free public libraries, long before teachers such as Plato or Aristotle had begun their work
"as well as" is incorrect here as in the same category as "music". "had" is incorrect here since the fact that "long before teachers such as Plato and Aristotle had begun their work" needs to happen after the previous fact.
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The original Ancient Greek gymnasiums were incredibly advanced and had more in common with our modern universities than with our local fitness clubs, holding lectures and discussions on philosophy, literature, and music, and offering free public libraries, long before teachers such as Plato and Aristotle had begun their work.

A)had more in common with our modern universities than with our local fitness clubs, holding lectures and discussions on philosophy, literature, and music, and offering free public libraries, long before teachers such as Plato and Aristotle had begun their work
B)held lectures, discussed philosophy, literature, and music, and offered free public libraries long before teachers such as Plato and Aristotle began their work, having more in common with our modern universities than our local fitness clubs
C)had more in common with our modern universities than with our local fitness clubs, holding lectures and discussions on philosophy, literature, and music, and offering libraries free to the public, long before teachers such as Plato and Aristotle began their work
D)have more in common with our modern universities than our local fitness clubs; they held lectures and discussions on philosophy, literature, and music, and offered libraries free to the public, long before teachers such as Plato and Aristotle had begun their work
E)were more like our modern universities than our local fitness clubs, holding lectures and discussions on philosophy, literature, and music as well as offering free public libraries, long before teachers such as Plato or Aristotle had begun their work





Hi e-GMAT,

Your help will be much appreciated.

To my understanding this portion in C is a participial modifier: “..holding lectures and discussions on philosophy, literature, and music, and offering libraries free to the public, long before teachers such as Plato and Aristotle began their work”

Is it allowed to parallel “holding” with “offering” by joining them with an “and” to modify the same subject “Greek gymnasiums”?

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Let me add my view :-)
Please find my reasoning below.

VyshakhR1995 wrote:
The original Ancient Greek gymnasiums were incredibly advanced and had more in common with our modern universities than with our local fitness clubs, holding lectures and discussions on philosophy, literature, and music, and offering free public libraries, long before teachers such as Plato and Aristotle had begun their work.

A)had more in common with our modern universities than with our local fitness clubs, holding lectures and discussions on philosophy, literature, and music, and offering free public libraries, long before teachers such as Plato and Aristotle had begun their work
INCORRECT... The use of past perfect tense is incorrect as the action of offering libraries free to the public came before the beginning of Plato's and Aristotle's work.

B)held lectures, discussed philosophy, literature, and music, and offered free public libraries long before teachers such as Plato and Aristotle began their work, having more in common with our modern universities than our local fitness clubs
INCORRECT... the crux of the sentence is altered.The main idea is that the gymnasiums are common with our modern universities-- i.e. they held lectures,discussed philosophy,etc.

C)had more in common with our modern universities than with our local fitness clubs, holding lectures and discussions on philosophy, literature, and music, and offering libraries free to the public, long before teachers such as Plato and Aristotle began their work
CORRECT...

D)have more in common with our modern universities than our local fitness clubs; they held lectures and discussions on philosophy, literature, and music, and offered libraries free to the public, long before teachers such as Plato and Aristotle had begun their work
INCORRECT... The comparison is not clear.
Gymnasiums have more in common with our modern universities than (with) our local fitness clubs. OR
Gymnasiums have more in common with our modern universities than our local fitness clubs have.


E)were more like our modern universities than our local fitness clubs, holding lectures and discussions on philosophy, literature, and music as well as offering free public libraries, long before teachers such as Plato or Aristotle had begun their work
INCORRECT... same as (D)
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The original Ancient Greek gymnasiums were incredibly advanced and had more in common with our modern universities than with our local fitness clubs, holding lectures and discussions on philosophy, literature, and music, and offering free public libraries, long before teachers such as Plato and Aristotle had begun their work.

A)had more in common with our modern universities than with our local fitness clubs, holding lectures and discussions on philosophy, literature, and music, and offering free public libraries, long before teachers such as Plato and Aristotle had begun their work
Had begun is wrong

B)held lectures, discussed philosophy, literature, and music, and offered free public libraries long before teachers such as Plato and Aristotle began their work, having more in common with our modern universities than our local fitness clubs
Same as D

C)had more in common with our modern universities than with our local fitness clubs, holding lectures and discussions on philosophy, literature, and music, and offering libraries free to the public, long before teachers such as Plato and Aristotle began their work
Correct Answer

D)have more in common with our modern universities than our local fitness clubs; they held lectures and discussions on philosophy, literature, and music, and offered libraries free to the public, long before teachers such as Plato and Aristotle had begun their work

With our modern universities than our local fitness club . Wrong comparison


E)were more like our modern universities than our local fitness clubs, holding lectures and discussions on philosophy, literature, and music as well as offering free public libraries, long before teachers such as Plato or Aristotle had begun their work

Had begun is wrong

Correct Answer choice C)

Correct comparison used .
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Hi e-GMAT,

Your help will be much appreciated.

To my understanding this portion in C is a participial modifier: “..holding lectures and discussions on philosophy, literature, and music, and offering libraries free to the public, long before teachers such as Plato and Aristotle began their work”

Is it allowed to parallel “holding” with “offering” by joining them with an “and” to modify the same subject “Greek gymnasiums”?

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Hi, I am not e-GMAT but just wanna share my view. Should you have any comment, I'm glad to know.

I will call the portion you mentioned "V-ing modifier after comma" (don't bother to remember this name). In (C), this type of modifier is used to describe preceding clause "The original Ancient Greek gymnasiums were incredibly advanced and had more in common with our modern universities than with our local fitness clubs". In brief, the modifier describes how the gymnasiums were advanced and have more in common with modern universities..

Analyzing the sentence, we can see that the meanings of "holding..." and of "offering..." have equal importance in describing the preceding clause. Therefore, the usage of "and" is correct here.
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VyshakhR1995 wrote:
The original Ancient Greek gymnasiums were incredibly advanced and had more in common with our modern universities than with our local fitness clubs, holding lectures and discussions on philosophy, literature, and music, and offering free public libraries, long before teachers such as Plato and Aristotle had begun their work.

A)had more in common with our modern universities than with our local fitness clubs, holding lectures and discussions on philosophy, literature, and music, and offering free public libraries, long before teachers such as Plato and Aristotle had begun their work
B)held lectures, discussed philosophy, literature, and music, and offered free public libraries long before teachers such as Plato and Aristotle began their work, having more in common with our modern universities than our local fitness clubs
C)had more in common with our modern universities than with our local fitness clubs, holding lectures and discussions on philosophy, literature, and music, and offering libraries free to the public, long before teachers such as Plato and Aristotle began their work
D)have more in common with our modern universities than our local fitness clubs; they held lectures and discussions on philosophy, literature, and music, and offered libraries free to the public, long before teachers such as Plato and Aristotle had begun their work
E)were more like our modern universities than our local fitness clubs, holding lectures and discussions on philosophy, literature, and music as well as offering free public libraries, long before teachers such as Plato or Aristotle had begun their work





Hi e-GMAT,

Your help will be much appreciated.

To my understanding this portion in C is a participial modifier: “..holding lectures and discussions on philosophy, literature, and music, and offering libraries free to the public, long before teachers such as Plato and Aristotle began their work”

Is it allowed to parallel “holding” with “offering” by joining them with an “and” to modify the same subject “Greek gymnasiums”?

Thanks and Regards
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Hello TheRzS,


Thank you for your query. :-)


In answer choice C, both holding... and offering... are comma + verb-ing modifiers that modify the preceding action had more in common. These two action modifiers describes how the ancient Greek gymnasiums were more like our modern universities.

Since both these modifiers have the same function in the sentence, that is, they modify the same entity, they do make a parallel list.

The usage of comma + verb-ing modifiers has been discussed in great details with ample examples in our SC course. In fact, this concept features in our Free Trial course material. You can review this concept by simply registering at e-gmat.com free of cost.


Hope this helps. :-)
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Hello there,
I think participial phrase "holding lectures and discussions on philosophy, literature, and music, and offering libraries free to the public, long before teachers such as Plato and Aristotle began their work" is just modifying subject of the sentence "The original Ancient Greek gymnasiums" rather than modifying an action.
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I could be wrong though, Can someone please shed some light on this matter, much appreciated!!
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here is an official explanation:
in C, This choice corrects the only error from the original sentence by changing the past perfect tense into the simple past tense.
in B, The comma + verb-ing modifier “having” incorrectly refers to the preceding clause “teachers… began their work.” The teachers did not have anything in common with modern universities; the Ancient Greek gymnasiums did.
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The original Ancient Greek gymnasiums were incredibly advanced and had more in common with our modern universities than with our local fitness clubs, holding lectures and discussions on philosophy, literature, and music, and offering libraries free to the public, long before teachers such as Plato and Aristotle began their work.
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The original Ancient Greek gymnasiums were incredibly advanced and had more in common with our modern universities than with our local fitness clubs

In this sentence how are we framing timelines for "incredibly advanced"(Simple past) and "more in common with our modern universities than with our local fitness clubs"(Past perfect).
What can't we take both the events are happening in the same timeline.
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holding lectures and discussions on philosophy, literature, and music, and offering libraries free to the public

Help me with (, and) sentences.
To my understanding, sentences like this(, and) should be followed by an independent clause.
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