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The rare bird, considered extinct for over fifty years and actually thriving in a remote part of the Andes, has made a remarkable comeback over the past decade.

(A) The rare bird, considered extinct for over fifty years and actually thriving in a remote part of the Andes, has made a remarkable comeback over the past decade.

(B) The rare bird, which had been considered extinct for over fifty years but it was actually thriving in a remote part of the Andes, has made a remarkable comeback over the past decade.

(C) The rare bird, which was considered extinct for over fifty years and had actually been thriving in a remote part of the Andes, made a remarkable comeback over the past decade

(D) The rare bird was considered extinct for over fifty years, but it was actually thriving in a remote part of the Andes, and, over the past decade, has made a remarkable comeback.

(E) The rare bird was considered extinct for over fifty years, was actually thriving in a remote part of the Andes, and, over the past decade, has made an remarkable comeback.

How would you split this sentence into its clauses?

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The rare bird, considered extinct for over fifty years and actually thriving in a remote part of the Andes, has made a remarkable comeback over the past decade.

1 The rare bird, considered extinct for fifty years and actually thriving in a remote part of the Andes, has made a remarkable comeback over the past decade.
2 The rare bird, which had been considered extinct for over fifty years but it was actually thriving in a remote part of the Andes, has made a remarkable comeback over the past decade.
3 The rare bird, which was considered extinct for over fifty years and had actually been thriving in a remote part of the Andes, made a remarkable comeback over the past decade
4 The rare bird was considered extinct for over fifty years, but it was actually thriving in a remote part of the Andes, and, over the past decade, has made a remarkable comeback.
5 The rare bird was considered extinct for over fifty years, was actually thriving in a remote part of the Andes, and, over the past decade, has made an remarkable comeback.

How would you split this sentence into its clauses?


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but is the correct conjunction to be used here as we intent to express contrast. This leaves us with B and D. In B past perfect tense is used , however we don't intend to express any sequence in time. Notice that the non underlined part of the sentence use present perfect correctly as we want to establish a time line from the past to the present. Hence D wins. Also don't worry too much about comma placement in D as GMAT doesn't judge an answer on that basis.
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The rare bird, considered extinct for over fifty years and actually thriving in a remote part of the Andes, has made a remarkable comeback over the past decade.

1 The rare bird, considered extinct for fifty years and actually thriving in a remote part of the Andes, has made a remarkable comeback over the past decade.
2 The rare bird, which had been considered extinct for over fifty years but it was actually thriving in a remote part of the Andes, has made a remarkable comeback over the past decade.
3 The rare bird, which was considered extinct for over fifty years and had actually been thriving in a remote part of the Andes, made a remarkable comeback over the past decade
4 The rare bird was considered extinct for over fifty years, but it was actually thriving in a remote part of the Andes, and, over the past decade, has made a remarkable comeback.
5 The rare bird was considered extinct for over fifty years, was actually thriving in a remote part of the Andes, and, over the past decade, has made an remarkable comeback.

A conditional clause is required, hence choices not containing but can be removed, so ACE can be removed.
between B and D, D wins due to parallelism. In B "it" is not required.

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fozzzy wrote:

How would you split this sentence into its clauses?


I am gonna split the correct answer only:

The rare bird (subject)was considered extinct for over fifty years(first), was actually thriving in a remote part of the Andes(second), and[, over the past decade, MODIFIER] has made an remarkable comeback(third).

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fozzzy wrote:

How would you split this sentence into its clauses?


I am gonna split the correct answer only:

The rare bird (subject)was considered extinct for over fifty years(first), was actually thriving in a remote part of the Andes(second), and[, over the past decade, MODIFIER] has made an remarkable comeback(third).

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Zarrolou wrote:
fozzzy wrote:

How would you split this sentence into its clauses?


I am gonna split the correct answer only:

The rare bird (subject)was considered extinct for over fifty years(first), was actually thriving in a remote part of the Andes(second), and[, over the past decade, MODIFIER] has made an remarkable comeback(third).

Hope this is what you were looking for


Hi, Zarrolou!

Are you sure you've split the correct answer? The my mind, the correct answer is D. The answer you've chosen (E) contains an erroneous article "an" before "remarkable".
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The rare bird, considered extinct for over fifty years and actually thriving in a remote part of the Andes, has made a remarkable comeback over the past decade.
A. The rare bird, considered extinct for fifty years and actually thriving in a remote part of the Andes, has made a remarkable comeback over the past decade.
B. The rare bird, which had been considered extinct for over fifty years but it was actually thriving in a remote part of the Andes, has made a remarkable comeback over the past decade.
C. The rare bird, which was considered extinct for over fifty years and had actually been thriving in a remote part of the Andes, made a remarkable comeback over the past decade
D. The rare bird was considered extinct for over fifty years, but it was actually thriving in a remote part of the Andes, and, over the past decade, has made a remarkable comeback.
E. The rare bird was considered extinct for over fifty years, was actually thriving in a remote part of the Andes, and, over the past decade, has made a remarkable comeback.

The bird was considered extinct, but was still thriving somewhere. To show contrast, a contrasting conjunction is required; hence A and C are out.

E has a list of clauses joined by ',' and 'and'. The option does not highlight the contrast. The three clauses are not even parallel as is required because of the list structure. The bird: was considered, was thriving, has made - all three clauses need to start with 'was', but this will make the sentence nonsensical.

That leaves B and D. The conjunction 'but' requires the two clauses it joins to start with the same word.
B. The bird: which had been considered, but it was thriving. which.., but it was... - Incorrect
D. The bird: was considered extinct, it was thriving - was considered..., but it was thriving... - Correct

I think the 'it' after but, in both B and D, is unnecessary.
Experts, please correct me if I am wrong anywhere in the above explanation. Thanks!
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The bird was considered extinct, but was still thriving somewhere. To show contrast, a contrasting conjunction is required; hence A and C are out.

E has a list of clauses joined by ',' and 'and'. The option does not highlight the contrast. The three clauses are not even parallel as is required because of the list structure. The bird: was considered, was thriving, has made - all three clauses need to start with 'was', but this will make the sentence nonsensical.

That leaves B and D. The conjunction 'but' requires the two clauses it joins to start with the same word.
B. The bird: which had been considered, but it was thriving. which.., but it was... - Incorrect
D. The bird: was considered extinct, it was thriving - was considered..., but it was thriving... - Correct

I think the 'it' after but, in both B and D, is unnecessary.
Experts, please correct me if I am wrong anywhere in the above explanation. Thanks!


Hi vjns

First, when you see "and" or "but", think about parallelism structure. Technically, we have structures
(1) contrast: A... but B....<== A and B have opposite meaning.
(2) Non-contrast: A .... and B....... <== A and B do NOT have opposite meaning.

However, we do not have any structure like: A...but B...and C.... The structure is very confusing,
A >< B and A || C
---OR---
A >< B and A >< C.
We don't know. That's why we HAVE to repeat the pronoun as in option D (repeating of "it").

The rare bird, considered extinct for over fifty years and actually thriving in a remote part of the Andes, has made a remarkable comeback over the past decade.

A. The rare bird, considered extinct for fifty years and actually thriving in a remote part of the Andes, has made a remarkable comeback over the past decade.
Wrong. We need a contrast meaning here --> "and" is not correct.

B. The rare bird, which had been considered extinct for over fifty years but it was actually thriving in a remote part of the Andes, has made a remarkable comeback over the past decade.
Wrong. if the sentence were correct, "it" would be redundant.

C. The rare bird, which was considered extinct for over fifty years and had actually been thriving in a remote part of the Andes, made a remarkable comeback over the past decade
Wrong. "and" is wrong. In addition, "had been thriving" is bad grammar.
"made" is wrong tense --> we need present perfect tense because of "over the past decade".

D. The rare bird was considered extinct for over fifty years, but it was actually thriving in a remote part of the Andes, and, over the past decade, has made a remarkable comeback.
Correct. The structure is: X was considered extinct, but X was actually thriving, and has made a remarkable comeback. ==> was thriving || has made. Both of them are opposite to "was considered extinct"

E. The rare bird was considered extinct for over fifty years, was actually thriving in a remote part of the Andes, and, over the past decade, has made a remarkable comeback.
Wrong. We need "but" after "fifty years" to create a contrast meaning.

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D it is: The rare bird was considered extinct for over fifty years, but it was actually thriving in a remote part of the Andes, and, over the past decade, has made a remarkable comeback.

faults in bold:
a)The rare bird, considered extinct for fifty years and actually thriving in a remote part of the Andes, has made a remarkable comeback over the past decade.
b)The rare bird, which had been considered extinct for over fifty years but it was actually thriving in a remote part of the Andes, has made a remarkable comeback over the past decade.
c)The rare bird, which was considered extinct for over fifty years and had actually been thriving in a remote part of the Andes, made a remarkable comeback over the past decade
d)The rare bird was considered extinct for over fifty years, but it was actually thriving in a remote part of the Andes, and, over the past decade, has made a remarkable comeback.---->correct
e)The rare bird was considered extinct for over fifty years, w ----->strange option !! it is not a complete sentence
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D it is:
e)The rare bird was considered extinct for over fifty years, w ----->strange option !! it is not a complete sentence


Yup D it is. I guess for option E) aadikamagic didn't copy it properly.

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I think option B ("The rare bird, which had been considered extinct for over fifty years but it was actually ") can be eliminated
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we do not have an independent clause before 'but'.
if we use 'but' we should have this structure -- independent clause, BUT independent clause.

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Hi,

In B the time line change is not evident.

"had been considered" and "has made" show as if both are from the same era.

Option D corrects this error.

Also in option D:"The rare bird was considered extinct for over fifty years" is an independent clause. Hence using one of FANBOYS(but) makes sense.

In option B:"the rare bird" is already the subject. The "it" is completely unnecessary as the clause " was actually thriving in a remote part of the Andes" also refers to the same rare bird.

hence D makes perfect sense.

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Option D seems the obvious choice. Just one small query - The rare bird was considered extinct for over fifty years, but it was actually thriving in a remote part of the Andes, and, over the past decade, has made a remarkable comeback.

Is the bolded comma needed in this sentence?
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The bolded comma is not an isolated one but is a part of a pairas follows:

...and, over the last decade, has made a remarkable comeback.

Notice the second comma after the word decade.

Pair of commas are sometimes used to enclose the non essential modifiers in a sentence. Here we have a non essential prepositional modifier "over the last decade" enclosed inside a pair of commas.

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The bolded comma is not an isolated one but is a part of a pairas follows:

...and, over the last decade, has made a remarkable comeback.

Notice the second comma after the word decade.

Pair of commas are sometimes used to enclose the non essential modifiers in a sentence. Here we have a non essential prepositional modifier "over the last decade" enclosed inside a pair of commas.

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Thank you. That helped. I wasn't aware of the concept of "Non essential modifiers", but it makes sense now.
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Hi experts, Can somebody explain what is wrong in option B?
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Whenever I am assured I have learnt something absolute in sentence correction, some gmat question creates ambiguity yet again.

As per my understanding, whenever we have a comma+conjunction form, it indicates the beginning of a new clause, meaning the noun/pronoun+verb form must exist.

In the correct answer choice, we find that after 'part of the Andes' comma+conjunction form is present, indicating that there should be clause following the conjunction. However we find no clause but rather "........., and, over the past decade, has made a remarkable comeback." Where is the subject/noun/pronoun ? For D to be correct, there must be no comma prior to 'and'.

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The rare bird, considered extinct for over fifty years and actually thriving in a remote part of the Andes, has made a remarkable comeback over the past decade.

1 The rare bird, considered extinct for fifty years and actually thriving in a remote part of the Andes, has made a remarkable comeback over the past decade.
2 The rare bird, which had been considered extinct for over fifty years but it was actually thriving in a remote part of the Andes, has made a remarkable comeback over the past decade.
3 The rare bird, which was considered extinct for over fifty years and had actually been thriving in a remote part of the Andes, made a remarkable comeback over the past decade
4 The rare bird was considered extinct for over fifty years, but it was actually thriving in a remote part of the Andes, and, over the past decade, has made a remarkable comeback.
5 The rare bird was considered extinct for over fifty years, was actually thriving in a remote part of the Andes, and, over the past decade, has made an remarkable comeback.


Quote:
A) The rare bird, considered extinct for fifty years and actually thriving in a remote part of the Andes, has made a remarkable comeback over the past decade.
C) The rare bird, which was considered extinct for over fifty years and had actually been thriving in a remote part of the Andes, made a remarkable comeback over the past decade

We require a contract conjunction i.e. 'but' so A and C are Incorrect. Plus, C switches the verb tense and makes the meaning illogical. Both are OUT.

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E) The rare bird was considered extinct for over fifty years, was actually thriving in a remote part of the Andes, and, over the past decade, has made an remarkable comeback.

This sentence creates a superficially parallel list that alters the meaning of the sentence, and also makes it illogical. OUT.

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B) The rare bird, which had been considered extinct for over fifty years but it was actually thriving in a remote part of the Andes, has made a remarkable comeback over the past decade.

'it' is redundant in the sentence as the subject is 'The rare bird' and can simply use a conjunction to connect compound verbs. D is a better option, so this one is OUT.

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D) The rare bird was considered extinct for over fifty years, but it was actually thriving in a remote part of the Andes, and, over the past decade, has made a remarkable comeback.


The Core -> The rare bird was considered extinct, but it was actually thriving and has made a remarkable comeback.
The Structure is Independent Clause, 'Conjunction' + Clause with Subject and Verb 1, Modifier, Clause with Verb 2.
The 2nd clause 'it was....comeback' maintains parallelism with 'was thriving' and 'has made'.
No other errors.

D is the right answer.
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OreoShake, while I agree that the commas are overdone in D, it's also true that there are very few absolute rules in English grammar! Like it or not, sometimes writers--even GMAT writers!--will insert a comma that doesn't seem necessary. Remember that commas can serve to indicate a pause in speaking and are sometimes used to break up a sentence for greater clarity. Honestly, I was tempted to put a comma before "and are sometimes" in that last sentence, even though it's not the standard! (What do you think? Would it have made the sentence easier to read?) For a good example of a "stray" comma in an official question, see this post (including my comments): https://gmatclub.com/forum/covering-71- ... 06346.html
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