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The territory historically inhabited by the Kurdish people includes portions of Turkey, Iran, Iraq, Syria, Armenia, and Azerbaijan.

A. includes portions of
B. include
C. included portions of
D. included a portion of
E. including
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How can you tell if historically means past or present?

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The territory historically inhabited by the Kurdish people includes portions of Turkey, Iran, Iraq, Syria, Armenia, and Azerbaijan.

A. includes portions of
B. include
C. included portions of
D. included a portion of
E. including


What is wrong with C???

What is wrong with C???

And how do we know if it's past or present to be used??

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Is this q wrong. Why no one is providing any explanation for this? Whats the issue with "c" here?
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TARGET730 wrote:
The territory historically inhabited by the Kurdish people includes portions of Turkey, Iran, Iraq, Syria, Armenia, and Azerbaijan.

A. includes portions of
B. include
C. included portions of
D. included a portion of
E. including


What is wrong with C???

What is wrong with C???

And how do we know if it's past or present to be used??


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Is this q wrong. Why no one is providing any explanation for this? Whats the issue with "c" here?


The territory historically inhabited by the Kurdish people includes portions of Turkey, Iran, Iraq, Syria, Armenia, and Azerbaijan.

if we remove the modifier "historically inhabited by the Kurdish people"
The sentence becomes
The territory includes portions of Turkey, Iran, Iraq, Syria, Armenia, and Azerbaijan

So either includes or included.
Present tense is required as the speaker is talking about the territory in present tense.
If it had been in past tense, it would have been:
The territory when inhabited by the Kurdish people included portions of Turkey, Iran, Iraq, Syria, Armenia, and Azerbaijan.
So included is used to show the action happened in past tense.
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TARGET730 wrote:
The territory historically inhabited by the Kurdish people includes portions of Turkey, Iran, Iraq, Syria, Armenia, and Azerbaijan.

A. includes portions of
B. include
C. included portions of
D. included a portion of
E. including


What is wrong with C???

What is wrong with C???

And how do we know if it's past or present to be used??


Option C change the meaning totally. 'INCLUDED' - Is a VERB -ED Modifier and it modifies the closest noun entity.

The menaing will change to Kurdish people Included those territories. For this reason I omitted Option C.

Even if you see territory as subject and included as Verb , a territory on its own cannot include anything.

Kindly advice if i were wrong on my understanding stated above.

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jush0611 wrote:
TARGET730 wrote:
The territory historically inhabited by the Kurdish people includes portions of Turkey, Iran, Iraq, Syria, Armenia, and Azerbaijan.

A. includes portions of
B. include
C. included portions of
D. included a portion of
E. including


What is wrong with C???

What is wrong with C???

And how do we know if it's past or present to be used??


Option C change the meaning totally. 'INCLUDED' - Is a VERB -ED Modifier and it modifies the closest noun entity.

The menaing will change to Kurdish people Included those territories. For this reason I omitted Option C.

Even if you see territory as subject and included as Verb , a territory on its own cannot include anything.

Kindly advice if i were wrong on my understanding stated above.


Yes this could be one reasoning to eliminate option C but the statement is a fact hence requires present tense. The territory still includes the portions of .......
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TARGET730 wrote:
The territory historically inhabited by the Kurdish people includes portions of Turkey, Iran, Iraq, Syria, Armenia, and Azerbaijan.



Yes this could be one reasoning to eliminate option C but the statement is a fact hence requires present tense. The territory still includes the portions of .......


But that fact could be a fact of the past.

Both A & C are correct.

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TARGET730 wrote:
The territory historically inhabited by the Kurdish people includes portions of Turkey, Iran, Iraq, Syria, Armenia, and Azerbaijan.



Yes this could be one reasoning to eliminate option C but the statement is a fact hence requires present tense. The territory still includes the portions of .......


But that fact could be a fact of the past.

Both A & C are correct.


How can they both be correct?

Can an expert explain the difference between A and C?

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bluetrain wrote:
TARGET730 wrote:
The territory historically inhabited by the Kurdish people includes portions of Turkey, Iran, Iraq, Syria, Armenia, and Azerbaijan.



Yes this could be one reasoning to eliminate option C but the statement is a fact hence requires present tense. The territory still includes the portions of .......


But that fact could be a fact of the past.

Both A & C are correct.


Yes both are grammatically correct but putting the sentence into the past tense is an assumption and changes the meaning of the quote.
There is no hard evidence that the quote is referring to the past so keep it in the present.
GMAT test makers commonly set up traps based on assumptions.

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bluetrain wrote:
TARGET730 wrote:
The territory historically inhabited by the Kurdish people includes portions of Turkey, Iran, Iraq, Syria, Armenia, and Azerbaijan.



Yes this could be one reasoning to eliminate option C but the statement is a fact hence requires present tense. The territory still includes the portions of .......


But that fact could be a fact of the past.

Both A & C are correct.


How can they both be correct?

Can an expert explain the difference between A and C?


I do not see any solid reason to eliminate C. Both A and C are grammatically correct and make sense. One may argue that the original meaning of the sentence should not be changed, but there is NO OFFICIAL guide that confirms this idea. In fact there are instances of correct answers in the OG that do not have the same meaning as the original sentence.

In my opinion, you would not expect such a question in GMAT.

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New post 21 Nov 2017, 14:30
"historically" is a trap; it should modify words, or phrases next to it only.
I believe that this question from Kaplan wants to remind test takers that normally, a sentence will talk about a fact in a present tense.
Also, A is correct b/c of "portions"

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