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Though being tiny, blind, and translucent, a recently discovered species of catfish lessens their vulnerability with thickened bones and armor plates on their sides.

A. Though being tiny, blind, and translucent, a recently discovered species of catfish lessens their vulnerability with thickened bones and armor plates on their sides.
B. Though tiny, blind, and translucent, a recently discovered species of catfish has thickened bones and armor plates on its sides that lessen its vulnerability.
C. A recently discovered species of catfish has thickened bones and armor plates on its sides that lessen their vulnerability, though tiny, blind, and translucent.
D. Thickened bones and armor plates on their sides lessen the vulnerability of a recently discovered species of catfish that is tiny, blind, and translucent.
E. Tiny, blind, and translucent, thickened bones and armor plates on its sides lessen the vulnerability of a recently discovered species of catfish.
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Hello Sayantanc2k,
Both thickened bones and armor plates lessen the vulnerability of catfish. Is it ok to use that to refer both of them (thick bones and armor plates) as it is used in Option C?

Thank you.


The relative pronoun "that" can refer to plural antecedents. Run a search "that" in OG, and you will find plenty of such usages.




Thank You for the reply.

Please have a look at the following post,
created-in-1945-to-reduce-poverty-210087.html

Some of the respondents such as Economist GMAT tutor say that that cannot be used to refer plural.
I am totally confused regarding usage of that. Please explain when we can use that to refer plural and to refer singular.

Thank you,
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Uses of pronoun "that":

1. as a demonstrative pronoun:
1a. as adjectives: That pen is mine.
1b. as copy: The car you gifted me is older than that standing outside (creates a copy of car).

2. as a relative pronoun:
I wanted to buy the house that was destroyed by earthquake yesterday.
I do not like dogs that bark.

The usage 1a and 1b can only be singular - for plural "those" is required:
That pens are mine... wrong
The cars you gifted me is older than that standing outside ...wrong

The usage 2 is applicable for both singular and plural. (the second example above is plural).

The question in this thread uses "that" as a relative pronoun (type 2) - hence plural usage is alright.
The question in your link uses "that" as a demonstrative pronoun (type 1b) - hence plural usage is wrong.
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I feel the answer is b?

A. Though being tiny, blind, and translucent, a recently discovered species of catfish lessens their vulnerability with thickened bones and armor plates on their sides.
B. Though tiny, blind, and translucent, a recently discovered species of catfish has thickened bones and armor plates on its sides that lessen its vulnerability.
C. A recently discovered species of catfish has thickened bones and armor plates on its sides that lessen their vulnerability, though tiny, blind, and translucent.
D. Thickened bones and armor plates on their sides lessen the vulnerability of a recently discovered species of catfish that is tiny, blind, and translucent.
E. Tiny, blind, and translucent, thickened bones and armor plates on its sides lessen the vulnerability of a recently discovered species of catfish.


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Though being tiny, blind, and translucent, a recently discovered species of catfish lessens their vulnerability with thickened bones and armor plates on their sides.

A. Though being tiny, blind, and translucent, a recently discovered species of catfish lessens their vulnerability with thickened bones and armor plates on their sides.
B. Though tiny, blind, and translucent, a recently discovered species of catfish has thickened bones and armor plates on its sides that lessen its vulnerability.
C. A recently discovered species of catfish has thickened bones and armor plates on its sides that lessen their vulnerability, though tiny, blind, and translucent.
D. Thickened bones and armor plates on their sides lessen the vulnerability of a recently discovered species of catfish that is tiny, blind, and translucent.
E. Tiny, blind, and translucent, thickened bones and armor plates on its sides lessen the vulnerability of a recently discovered species of catfish.


Though tiny, blind, and translucent, a recently discovered species of catfish has thickened bones and armor plates on its sides that lessen its vulnerability.

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A,C,D S-V agreement issue. E has meaning issue.
B is the correct answer
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is conjunction 'though' before adjectives which modify recently discovered species right?
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Though being tiny, blind, and translucent, a recently discovered species of catfish lessens their vulnerability with thickened bones and armor plates on their sides.

A. Though being tiny, blind, and translucent, a recently discovered species of catfish lessens their vulnerability with thickened bones and armor plates on their sides.
B. Though tiny, blind, and translucent, a recently discovered species of catfish has thickened bones and armor plates on its sides that lessen its vulnerability.
C. A recently discovered species of catfish has thickened bones and armor plates on its sides that lessen their vulnerability, though tiny, blind, and translucent.
D. Thickened bones and armor plates on their sides lessen the vulnerability of a recently discovered species of catfish that is tiny, blind, and translucent.
E. Tiny, blind, and translucent, thickened bones and armor plates on its sides lessen the vulnerability of a recently discovered species of catfish.



Hello Sayantanc2k,
Both thickened bones and armor plates lessen the vulnerability of catfish. Is it ok to use that to refer both of them (thick bones and armor plates) as it is used in Option C?

Thank you.
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Though being tiny, blind, and translucent, a recently discovered species of catfish lessens their vulnerability with thickened bones and armor plates on their sides.

A. Though being tiny, blind, and translucent, a recently discovered species of catfish lessens their vulnerability with thickened bones and armor plates on their sides.
B. Though tiny, blind, and translucent, a recently discovered species of catfish has thickened bones and armor plates on its sides that lessen its vulnerability.
C. A recently discovered species of catfish has thickened bones and armor plates on its sides that lessen their vulnerability, though tiny, blind, and translucent.
D. Thickened bones and armor plates on their sides lessen the vulnerability of a recently discovered species of catfish that is tiny, blind, and translucent.
E. Tiny, blind, and translucent, thickened bones and armor plates on its sides lessen the vulnerability of a recently discovered species of catfish.



Hello Sayantanc2k,
Both thickened bones and armor plates lessen the vulnerability of catfish. Is it ok to use that to refer both of them (thick bones and armor plates) as it is used in Option C?

Thank you.


The relative pronoun "that" can refer to plural antecedents. Run a search "that" in OG, and you will find plenty of such usages.
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Though being tiny, blind, and translucent, a recently discovered species of catfish lessens their vulnerability with thickened bones and armor plates on their sides.

A. Though being tiny, blind, and translucent, a recently discovered species of catfish lessens their vulnerability with thickened bones and armor plates on their sides.
B. Though tiny, blind, and translucent, a recently discovered species of catfish has thickened bones and armor plates on its sides that lessen its vulnerability.
C. A recently discovered species of catfish has thickened bones and armor plates on its sides that lessen their vulnerability, though tiny, blind, and translucent.
D. Thickened bones and armor plates on their sides lessen the vulnerability of a recently discovered species of catfish that is tiny, blind, and translucent.
E. Tiny, blind, and translucent, thickened bones and armor plates on its sides lessen the vulnerability of a recently discovered species of catfish.



Hello Sayantanc2k,
Both thickened bones and armor plates lessen the vulnerability of catfish. Is it ok to use that to refer both of them (thick bones and armor plates) as it is used in Option C?

Thank you.


The relative pronoun "that" can refer to plural antecedents. Run a search "that" in OG, and you will find plenty of such usages.




Thank You for the reply.

Please have a look at the following post,
created-in-1945-to-reduce-poverty-210087.html

Some of the respondents such as Economist GMAT tutor say that that cannot be used to refer plural.
I am totally confused regarding usage of that. Please explain when we can use that to refer plural and to refer singular.

Thank you,
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Uses of pronoun "that":

1. as a demonstrative pronoun:
1a. as adjectives: That pen is mine.
1b. as copy: The car you gifted me is older than that standing outside (creates a copy of car).

2. as a relative pronoun:
I wanted to buy the house that was destroyed by earthquake yesterday.
I do not like dogs that bark.

The usage 1a and 1b can only be singular - for plural "those" is required:
That pens are mine... wrong
The cars you gifted me is older than that standing outside ...wrong

The usage 2 is applicable for both singular and plural. (the second example above is plural).

The question in this thread uses "that" as a relative pronoun (type 2) - hence plural usage is alright.
The question in your link uses "that" as a demonstrative pronoun (type 1b) - hence plural usage is wrong.[/quote]


Thank you very much for the help.
I will try some more questions based on usage of that.
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Can you help me understand this " Though tiny, blind, and translucent" is this not modifying a recently" and not the new species that was found.

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No, the modifier modifies the entire noun phrase " a recently discovered species of catfish". "Species" is the main noun in this phrase; hence the modifier refers to "species". "Recently" is not a noun.
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Uses of pronoun "that":

1. as a demonstrative pronoun:
1a. as adjectives: That pen is mine.
1b. as copy: The car you gifted me is older than that standing outside (creates a copy of car).

2. as a relative pronoun:
I wanted to buy the house that was destroyed by earthquake yesterday.
I do not like dogs that bark.

The usage 1a and 1b can only be singular - for plural "those" is required:
That pens are mine... wrong
The cars you gifted me is older than that standing outside ...wrong

The usage 2 is applicable for both singular and plural. (the second example above is plural).

The question in this thread uses "that" as a relative pronoun (type 2) - hence plural usage is alright.
The question in your link uses "that" as a demonstrative pronoun (type 1b) - hence plural usage is wrong.[/quote]


Hello sayantanc2k
Thanks alot for this clear and crisp explanation on usage of "that"
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species are either singular or plural, so B is the only correct answer
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My answer is B. Following though is a noun modifier: “tiny, blind and translucent” (remember that adj is considered noun modifier).

Full sentence: Though it is tiny, blind, and translucent, a recently discovered species of catfish has thickened bones and armor plates on its sides that lessen its vulnerability.
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hi all, is "a species of xxx" always singular? thanks for anyone's help
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pronoun "that" is fine in this question. test takers should know this important trick pattern in gmat.
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A. Though being tiny, blind, and translucent, a recently discovered species of catfish lessens their vulnerability with thickened bones and armor plates on their sides. - Pronoun error


B. Though tiny, blind, and translucent, a recently discovered species of catfish has thickened bones and armor plates on its sides that lessen its vulnerability. - Correct.


C. A recently discovered species of catfish has thickened bones and armor plates on its sides that lessen their vulnerability, though tiny, blind, and translucent. - Changes in meaning and Pronoun error


D. Thickened bones and armor plates on their sides lessen the vulnerability of a recently discovered species of catfish that is tiny, blind, and translucent. - Pronoun error.


E. Tiny, blind, and translucent, thickened bones and armor plates on its sides lessen the vulnerability of a recently discovered species of catfish. - "Tiny, blind, and translucent" illogically modifies "thickened bones".
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I am not sure if you still have this doubt. Here is the answer nonetheless. :-)


Yes, the phrase "a species of xxx" is always singular because the articles "a" and "an" are used only with singular noun entities.


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pronoun "that" is fine in this question. test takers should know this important trick pattern in gmat.




Hello chesstitans,


You have highlighted one of the most crucial points with regard to the correct usage of the relative pronoun modifier that and other noun modifiers.

I just want to add here that we have authored an article named Noun Modifiers can Modify slightly far away noun on the very same topic that explains when noun modifiers can modify a noun that is slightly far away from it. The article can be accessed through the following link:
https://gmatclub.com/forum/noun-modifiers-can-modify-slightly-far-away-noun-135868.html



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Though being tiny, blind, and translucent, a recently discovered species of catfish lessens their vulnerability with thickened bones and armor plates on their sides.

A. Though being tiny, blind, and translucent, a recently discovered species of catfish lessens their vulnerability with thickened bones and armor plates on their sides. - pronoun issue - Use of the plural pronoun their is incorrect in both the instances. The antecedent of their at both places is the singular noun species.
B. Though tiny, blind, and translucent, a recently discovered species of catfish has thickened bones and armor plates on its sides that lessen its vulnerability. - Correct
C. A recently discovered species of catfish has thickened bones and armor plates on its sides that lessen their vulnerability, though tiny, blind, and translucent. --The plural pronoun their doesn’t agree with the singular antecedent species ; meaning change -- contrast is lost -The way though tiny… translucent is placed in the sentence, it fails to convey the intended contrast. The placement of this phrase makes it difficult to establish that these qualities belong to this particular species of catfish.
D. Thickened bones and armor plates on their sides lessen the vulnerability of a recently discovered species of catfish that is tiny, blind, and translucent. --The plural pronoun their doesn’t agree with the singular antecedent species. -- Pronoun issue - The plural pronoun their doesn’t agree with the singular antecedent species. ; meaning changes as no contrast word is present
E. Tiny, blind, and translucent, thickened bones and armor plates on its sides lessen the vulnerability of a recently discovered species of catfish. -- illogical meaning; modifier issue -- The opening modifiers tiny, blind, and translucent illogically modifies the subject of the following main clause thickened bones and armor plates.

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