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15 Nov 2019, 13:15
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Tips for improving from 700 to 730, particularly in Quant,
Hi everyone, after studying for approximately 4 months with the official guides and Target Test Prep, I finally was able to take the GMAT and scored 700 (Q48, V37, IR5, AWA6). I was pretty satisfied for it being a first attempt, and I am from South America, Chile and I have known several people who have entered top schools (HBS, Stanford, Booth etc.) with scores in that range. But still, I think my chances would improve greatly if I manage to improve to 720, in particular I have spoken with a couple advisors and they told me that it would be key for me to reach at least a 75th percentile in Quant, which would mean improving to Q49. What worries me is that, I do feel I could potentially improve my score, but I feel that there is more space in verbal considering my abilities and the CAT results, as on the 5 CATs I did I scored 680, 680, 680, 710, 710 but only once I scored 49 in Quant while I did score 42 and 39 in verbal other times. So although I think that if I repeat the GMAT there’s a possibility for me to score Q49, is just as possible that I score Q47 or Q46.
So in summary, what do you think of this, what would you recommend me in order to improve my score and reach that 75th percentile in Quant? I plan on taking a couple of weeks off as job is pretty initense right know and study a couple of weeks before repeating it by the end of December.
Additionally, although I have a low quant percentile, I have worked on Finance my whole career (at EY, JPM, and a Family Office), I also studied business and graduated at top 5% of my class and worked as a TA for the Econometrics course. Do you think that inconsistency between my score and my profile could hurt me even more? Or conversely, that it could help me get in despite my poor score?
Thanks a lot everyone!!
Hi everyone, after studying for approximately 4 months with the official guides and Target Test Prep, I finally was able to take the GMAT and scored 700 (Q48, V37, IR5, AWA6). I was pretty satisfied for it being a first attempt, and I am from South America, Chile and I have known several people who have entered top schools (HBS, Stanford, Booth etc.) with scores in that range. But still, I think my chances would improve greatly if I manage to improve to 720, in particular I have spoken with a couple advisors and they told me that it would be key for me to reach at least a 75th percentile in Quant, which would mean improving to Q49. What worries me is that, I do feel I could potentially improve my score, but I feel that there is more space in verbal considering my abilities and the CAT results, as on the 5 CATs I did I scored 680, 680, 680, 710, 710 but only once I scored 49 in Quant while I did score 42 and 39 in verbal other times. So although I think that if I repeat the GMAT there’s a possibility for me to score Q49, is just as possible that I score Q47 or Q46.
So in summary, what do you think of this, what would you recommend me in order to improve my score and reach that 75th percentile in Quant? I plan on taking a couple of weeks off as job is pretty initense right know and study a couple of weeks before repeating it by the end of December.
Additionally, although I have a low quant percentile, I have worked on Finance my whole career (at EY, JPM, and a Family Office), I also studied business and graduated at top 5% of my class and worked as a TA for the Econometrics course. Do you think that inconsistency between my score and my profile could hurt me even more? Or conversely, that it could help me get in despite my poor score?
Thanks a lot everyone!!
15 Nov 2019, 15:08
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Hi nalbagli,
First off, a 700/Q48 is an outstanding Score, so you can comfortably apply to any Business Schools that interest you. As such, a retest might not be necessary. You mentioned that you had spoken with some 'advisors', but it's not clear who those advisors were, so you might find it beneficial to speak with an Admissions Expert about your overall profile and plans. There's a Forum full of those Experts here:
https://gmatclub.com/forum/ask-admissio ... tants-124/
There's certainly no harm in continuing to study though - and if you're interested in applying to any highly-competitive Finance Programs (or other Specialty Programs), then a higher Quant Scaled Score would likely be beneficial to your applications. Before I can offer you the specific advice that you’re looking for, it would help if you could provide a bit more information on how you've been studying and your goals:
Studies:
1) How long have you studied? How many hours do you typically study each week?
2) What study materials have you used so far?
3) On what dates did you take EACH of your CATs/mocks and how did you score on EACH (including the Quant and Verbal Scaled Scores for EACH)?
Goals:
4) When are you planning to apply to Business School?
5) What Schools are you planning to apply to?
You might also choose to purchase the Enhanced Score Report. While the ESR doesn’t provide a lot of information, there are usually a few data points that we can use to define what went wrong on Test Day (and what you should work on to score higher). If you purchase the ESR, then I'll be happy to analyze it for you.
GMAT assassins aren't born, they're made,
Rich
First off, a 700/Q48 is an outstanding Score, so you can comfortably apply to any Business Schools that interest you. As such, a retest might not be necessary. You mentioned that you had spoken with some 'advisors', but it's not clear who those advisors were, so you might find it beneficial to speak with an Admissions Expert about your overall profile and plans. There's a Forum full of those Experts here:
https://gmatclub.com/forum/ask-admissio ... tants-124/
There's certainly no harm in continuing to study though - and if you're interested in applying to any highly-competitive Finance Programs (or other Specialty Programs), then a higher Quant Scaled Score would likely be beneficial to your applications. Before I can offer you the specific advice that you’re looking for, it would help if you could provide a bit more information on how you've been studying and your goals:
Studies:
1) How long have you studied? How many hours do you typically study each week?
2) What study materials have you used so far?
3) On what dates did you take EACH of your CATs/mocks and how did you score on EACH (including the Quant and Verbal Scaled Scores for EACH)?
Goals:
4) When are you planning to apply to Business School?
5) What Schools are you planning to apply to?
You might also choose to purchase the Enhanced Score Report. While the ESR doesn’t provide a lot of information, there are usually a few data points that we can use to define what went wrong on Test Day (and what you should work on to score higher). If you purchase the ESR, then I'll be happy to analyze it for you.
GMAT assassins aren't born, they're made,
Rich
18 Nov 2019, 05:23
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Hi, thanks a lot for the answer. The advisors I spoke to, are guys that have worked with people from LatAm and Chile in particular and have helped people to enter the top MBA programs including HBS and Stanford. I was certainly happy with my score since I have known several people from my country who did enter this programs with scores between 690-710, so to know that my Quant percentile may be the problem was a big bummer because it’s pretty tough to improve further.
Now answering your questions:
1) I Studied for approximately 5 months although I managed to be very methodic and consistent only during the first 3, then I switched jobs and my exam was postponed a couple of weeks because of riots in my country, so I continued studying but with less consistency. At the beginning I studied 7 days a week like 2 hours a day on weekdays and approx. 4 on weekends. During the last period I would say approx. 1 hour on weekdays and 3 on weekends (not every day).
2) I used Target Test Prep for Quant and completed the course. For Verbal I read Manhattan and Kaplan at the beginning but to be honest, I felt it didn’t help much so I used e-gmat for a bit and just problems. In the last month and a half I used the official guide for problems of quant and verbal.
3)
a. CAT 1: 680 (Q48, V35) – 2-sep
b. CAT 2: 680 (Q46, V38) – 5-sep
c. CAT 3: 680 (Q48, V35) – 19-sep
d. CAT 4: 710 (Q49, V37) – 12-oct
e. CAT 5: 710 (Q47, V41) – 25-oct
f. Official GMAT: 700 (Q48, V37) – 9-nov
4) I will be applying to do my MBA in 2021 so I have time, the thing is my job has pretty demanding working hours.
5) I would like to apply to most top 10 MBA programs such as: HBS, Stanford, Columbia, Chicago, MIT, Wharton, Kellogg, Berkeley or UCLA. I know average scores are higher for those programs, but usually people from LatAm can enter with score below the average.
I did purchase the ESR, I would love an analysis to understand it better.
Thanks!!
Now answering your questions:
1) I Studied for approximately 5 months although I managed to be very methodic and consistent only during the first 3, then I switched jobs and my exam was postponed a couple of weeks because of riots in my country, so I continued studying but with less consistency. At the beginning I studied 7 days a week like 2 hours a day on weekdays and approx. 4 on weekends. During the last period I would say approx. 1 hour on weekdays and 3 on weekends (not every day).
2) I used Target Test Prep for Quant and completed the course. For Verbal I read Manhattan and Kaplan at the beginning but to be honest, I felt it didn’t help much so I used e-gmat for a bit and just problems. In the last month and a half I used the official guide for problems of quant and verbal.
3)
a. CAT 1: 680 (Q48, V35) – 2-sep
b. CAT 2: 680 (Q46, V38) – 5-sep
c. CAT 3: 680 (Q48, V35) – 19-sep
d. CAT 4: 710 (Q49, V37) – 12-oct
e. CAT 5: 710 (Q47, V41) – 25-oct
f. Official GMAT: 700 (Q48, V37) – 9-nov
4) I will be applying to do my MBA in 2021 so I have time, the thing is my job has pretty demanding working hours.
5) I would like to apply to most top 10 MBA programs such as: HBS, Stanford, Columbia, Chicago, MIT, Wharton, Kellogg, Berkeley or UCLA. I know average scores are higher for those programs, but usually people from LatAm can enter with score below the average.
I did purchase the ESR, I would love an analysis to understand it better.
Thanks!!
EMPOWERgmatRichC
Hi nalbagli,
First off, a 700/Q48 is an outstanding Score, so you can comfortably apply to any Business Schools that interest you. As such, a retest might not be necessary. You mentioned that you had spoken with some 'advisors', but it's not clear who those advisors were, so you might find it beneficial to speak with an Admissions Expert about your overall profile and plans. There's a Forum full of those Experts here:
There's certainly no harm in continuing to study though - and if you're interested in applying to any highly-competitive Finance Programs (or other Specialty Programs), then a higher Quant Scaled Score would likely be beneficial to your applications. Before I can offer you the specific advice that you’re looking for, it would help if you could provide a bit more information on how you've been studying and your goals:
Studies:
1) How long have you studied? How many hours do you typically study each week?
2) What study materials have you used so far?
3) On what dates did you take EACH of your CATs/mocks and how did you score on EACH (including the Quant and Verbal Scaled Scores for EACH)?
Goals:
4) When are you planning to apply to Business School?
5) What Schools are you planning to apply to?
You might also choose to purchase the Enhanced Score Report. While the ESR doesn’t provide a lot of information, there are usually a few data points that we can use to define what went wrong on Test Day (and what you should work on to score higher). If you purchase the ESR, then I'll be happy to analyze it for you.
GMAT assassins aren't born, they're made,
Rich
First off, a 700/Q48 is an outstanding Score, so you can comfortably apply to any Business Schools that interest you. As such, a retest might not be necessary. You mentioned that you had spoken with some 'advisors', but it's not clear who those advisors were, so you might find it beneficial to speak with an Admissions Expert about your overall profile and plans. There's a Forum full of those Experts here:
There's certainly no harm in continuing to study though - and if you're interested in applying to any highly-competitive Finance Programs (or other Specialty Programs), then a higher Quant Scaled Score would likely be beneficial to your applications. Before I can offer you the specific advice that you’re looking for, it would help if you could provide a bit more information on how you've been studying and your goals:
Studies:
1) How long have you studied? How many hours do you typically study each week?
2) What study materials have you used so far?
3) On what dates did you take EACH of your CATs/mocks and how did you score on EACH (including the Quant and Verbal Scaled Scores for EACH)?
Goals:
4) When are you planning to apply to Business School?
5) What Schools are you planning to apply to?
You might also choose to purchase the Enhanced Score Report. While the ESR doesn’t provide a lot of information, there are usually a few data points that we can use to define what went wrong on Test Day (and what you should work on to score higher). If you purchase the ESR, then I'll be happy to analyze it for you.
GMAT assassins aren't born, they're made,
Rich
