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Tips for improving from 700 to 730, particularly in Quant

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Tips for improving from 700 to 730, particularly in Quant,

Hi everyone, after studying for approximately 4 months with the official guides and Target Test Prep, I finally was able to take the GMAT and scored 700 (Q48, V37, IR5, AWA6). I was pretty satisfied for it being a first attempt, and I am from South America, Chile and I have known several people who have entered top schools (HBS, Stanford, Booth etc.) with scores in that range. But still, I think my chances would improve greatly if I manage to improve to 720, in particular I have spoken with a couple advisors and they told me that it would be key for me to reach at least a 75th percentile in Quant, which would mean improving to Q49. What worries me is that, I do feel I could potentially improve my score, but I feel that there is more space in verbal considering my abilities and the CAT results, as on the 5 CATs I did I scored 680, 680, 680, 710, 710 but only once I scored 49 in Quant while I did score 42 and 39 in verbal other times. So although I think that if I repeat the GMAT there’s a possibility for me to score Q49, is just as possible that I score Q47 or Q46.

So in summary, what do you think of this, what would you recommend me in order to improve my score and reach that 75th percentile in Quant? I plan on taking a couple of weeks off as job is pretty initense right know and study a couple of weeks before repeating it by the end of December.

Additionally, although I have a low quant percentile, I have worked on Finance my whole career (at EY, JPM, and a Family Office), I also studied business and graduated at top 5% of my class and worked as a TA for the Econometrics course. Do you think that inconsistency between my score and my profile could hurt me even more? Or conversely, that it could help me get in despite my poor score?

Thanks a lot everyone!!
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Hi nalbagli,

First off, a 700/Q48 is an outstanding Score, so you can comfortably apply to any Business Schools that interest you. As such, a retest might not be necessary. You mentioned that you had spoken with some 'advisors', but it's not clear who those advisors were, so you might find it beneficial to speak with an Admissions Expert about your overall profile and plans. There's a Forum full of those Experts here:

https://gmatclub.com/forum/ask-admissio ... tants-124/

There's certainly no harm in continuing to study though - and if you're interested in applying to any highly-competitive Finance Programs (or other Specialty Programs), then a higher Quant Scaled Score would likely be beneficial to your applications. Before I can offer you the specific advice that you’re looking for, it would help if you could provide a bit more information on how you've been studying and your goals:

Studies:
1) How long have you studied? How many hours do you typically study each week?
2) What study materials have you used so far?
3) On what dates did you take EACH of your CATs/mocks and how did you score on EACH (including the Quant and Verbal Scaled Scores for EACH)?

Goals:
4) When are you planning to apply to Business School?
5) What Schools are you planning to apply to?

You might also choose to purchase the Enhanced Score Report. While the ESR doesn’t provide a lot of information, there are usually a few data points that we can use to define what went wrong on Test Day (and what you should work on to score higher). If you purchase the ESR, then I'll be happy to analyze it for you.

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Hi, thanks a lot for the answer. The advisors I spoke to, are guys that have worked with people from LatAm and Chile in particular and have helped people to enter the top MBA programs including HBS and Stanford. I was certainly happy with my score since I have known several people from my country who did enter this programs with scores between 690-710, so to know that my Quant percentile may be the problem was a big bummer because it’s pretty tough to improve further.

Now answering your questions:

1) I Studied for approximately 5 months although I managed to be very methodic and consistent only during the first 3, then I switched jobs and my exam was postponed a couple of weeks because of riots in my country, so I continued studying but with less consistency. At the beginning I studied 7 days a week like 2 hours a day on weekdays and approx. 4 on weekends. During the last period I would say approx. 1 hour on weekdays and 3 on weekends (not every day).
2) I used Target Test Prep for Quant and completed the course. For Verbal I read Manhattan and Kaplan at the beginning but to be honest, I felt it didn’t help much so I used e-gmat for a bit and just problems. In the last month and a half I used the official guide for problems of quant and verbal.
3)
a. CAT 1: 680 (Q48, V35) – 2-sep
b. CAT 2: 680 (Q46, V38) – 5-sep
c. CAT 3: 680 (Q48, V35) – 19-sep
d. CAT 4: 710 (Q49, V37) – 12-oct
e. CAT 5: 710 (Q47, V41) – 25-oct
f. Official GMAT: 700 (Q48, V37) – 9-nov
4) I will be applying to do my MBA in 2021 so I have time, the thing is my job has pretty demanding working hours.
5) I would like to apply to most top 10 MBA programs such as: HBS, Stanford, Columbia, Chicago, MIT, Wharton, Kellogg, Berkeley or UCLA. I know average scores are higher for those programs, but usually people from LatAm can enter with score below the average.

I did purchase the ESR, I would love an analysis to understand it better.

Thanks!!



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Hi nalbagli,

First off, a 700/Q48 is an outstanding Score, so you can comfortably apply to any Business Schools that interest you. As such, a retest might not be necessary. You mentioned that you had spoken with some 'advisors', but it's not clear who those advisors were, so you might find it beneficial to speak with an Admissions Expert about your overall profile and plans. There's a Forum full of those Experts here:


There's certainly no harm in continuing to study though - and if you're interested in applying to any highly-competitive Finance Programs (or other Specialty Programs), then a higher Quant Scaled Score would likely be beneficial to your applications. Before I can offer you the specific advice that you’re looking for, it would help if you could provide a bit more information on how you've been studying and your goals:

Studies:
1) How long have you studied? How many hours do you typically study each week?
2) What study materials have you used so far?
3) On what dates did you take EACH of your CATs/mocks and how did you score on EACH (including the Quant and Verbal Scaled Scores for EACH)?

Goals:
4) When are you planning to apply to Business School?
5) What Schools are you planning to apply to?

You might also choose to purchase the Enhanced Score Report. While the ESR doesn’t provide a lot of information, there are usually a few data points that we can use to define what went wrong on Test Day (and what you should work on to score higher). If you purchase the ESR, then I'll be happy to analyze it for you.

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Hi nalbagli

So, I know that you’ve already spoken with Jeff regarding a short term study plan. So, for sure I want you to follow that. If you can follow that plan and continue to strengthen your weak areas, I think you have a good shot at improving your quant score.

Also, I don’t think you are giving yourself enough credit regarding your quant score (and overall score). I know it seems as though Q48 has somewhat of a low percentile; however, 48 is only 3 points below a top quant score! So give yourself a pat on the back my friend you’ve done well!
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Hi nalbagli,

To start, since you have purchased the ESR, then I'll be happy to analyze it for you. Before you can include attachments with your posts/PMs, you need to have at least 5 posts in the forums. Right now, you have just 3, so if you would rather not go through those additional steps at this point, then you can feel free to email your ESR directly to me (at Rich.C@empowergmat.com).

GMAC has publicly stated that the Official Score that you earn on Test Day is within +/- 30 points of actual ability. Assuming a similar 'swing' in how your CATs function, your 5 CAT score results - along with your Official Score - show that you essentially performed the same each time (690 +/- a few points). You handle certain aspects of the GMAT consistently well, but you also make certain consistent mistakes. This ultimately means that you've been performing at the same general level for about 2.5 months - and the minor changes in your Quant and Verbal Scaled Scores are due to a handful of 'lucky guesses' or little mistakes.

With a 700, you're remarkably close to a 720+ right now - and if you can make the necessary adjustments to how you 'see' (and respond to) BOTH the Quant and Verbal sections, then you could potentially score into the mid-700s. That having been said, if you continue to study in the same ways as before, then you will likely continue to score at the same generally level.

1) Going forward, when are you planning to restart your studies and how many hours do you think you will be able to study each week?
2) Which "brands" of practice CATs/mocks have you used so far?

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New post 19 Nov 2019, 07:26
What you are saying makes sense, for the last months I stated before I just did OG problems and CATs, it seems I didn’t improve much during that time as my scores have remained relatively stable. The problem I find is my inconsistency as I usually improve in one of the sections but do worse on the other. As you said if I manage to solve that I feel I could improve my score substantially.

I just sent you my ESR to the email.

1) I am not sure, I am debating myself on whether schedule a test for mid December and start studying next week, in order to maintain momentum. Or the other option is doing it mid January. I think I’ll study a couple of hours a day on weekdays and do CAT per weekend.
2) I have only used official GMAC CATs, which do you recommend beside those ones.

Thanks



EMPOWERgmatRichC wrote:
Hi nalbagli,

To start, since you have purchased the ESR, then I'll be happy to analyze it for you. Before you can include attachments with your posts/PMs, you need to have at least 5 posts in the forums. Right now, you have just 3, so if you would rather not go through those additional steps at this point, then you can feel free to email your ESR directly to me

GMAC has publicly stated that the Official Score that you earn on Test Day is within +/- 30 points of actual ability. Assuming a similar 'swing' in how your CATs function, your 5 CAT score results - along with your Official Score - show that you essentially performed the same each time (690 +/- a few points). You handle certain aspects of the GMAT consistently well, but you also make certain consistent mistakes. This ultimately means that you've been performing at the same general level for about 2.5 months - and the minor changes in your Quant and Verbal Scaled Scores are due to a handful of 'lucky guesses' or little mistakes.

With a 700, you're remarkably close to a 720+ right now - and if you can make the necessary adjustments to how you 'see' (and respond to) BOTH the Quant and Verbal sections, then you could potentially score into the mid-700s. That having been said, if you continue to study in the same ways as before, then you will likely continue to score at the same generally level.

1) Going forward, when are you planning to restart your studies and how many hours do you think you will be able to study each week?
2) Which "brands" of practice CATs/mocks have you used so far?

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Hi Nicolas,

I've emailed you an analysis of your ESR and some additional notes.

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