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If a, b are integers, and (a-b)^2 + 8b^2=108, what is the number of the ordered pairs (a,b)?

A. 2
B. 4
C. 6
D. 8
E. 10



Hi,

this is my approach,
start with the part that has more limit, so I start with 8b^2. b^2 could be 1, 4, 9, but not greater because if so then 8b^2 would be 128 that is greater than 108.
therefore we have that 8b^2 is one of 8*1,8*4=32 or 8*9=72, in each case (a-b)^2 is 108-8=100, 108-32=76 or 108-72=36 respectively, but (a-b)^2 can not be 100 or 76 because it's a complete square. therefore b^2=9 & (a-b)^2=36 so we have b=+or- 3 and a-b=+or -6 we get a=+or_6+(+or-3) that is 4 number for a and 2 number for b. which is 8 pairs.
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If a, b are integers, and (a-b)^2 + 8b^2=108, what is the number of the ordered pairs (a,b)?

A. 2
B. 4
C. 6
D. 8
E. 10



Hi,

this is my approach,
start with the part that has more limit, so I start with 8b^2. b^2 could be 1, 4, 9, but not greater because if so then 8b^2 would be 128 that is greater than 108.
therefore we have that 8b^2 is one of 8*1,8*4=32 or 8*9=72, in each case (a-b)^2 is 108-8=100, 108-32=76 or 108-72=36 respectively, but (a-b)^2 can not be 100 or 76 because it's a complete square. therefore b^2=9 & (a-b)^2=36 so we have b=+or- 3 and a-b=+or -6 we geta=+or_6+(+or-3) that is 4 number for a and 2 number for b. which is 8 pairs.


The highlighted part is incorrect. a could be +3 or -3, +9 or -9, while b could +3 or -3. So, four options for a and two for b (8 combinations).
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chetan2u thanks, I see where I went wrong. Great explanation!
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If a, b are integers, and (a-b)^2 + 8b^2=108, what is the number of the ordered pairs (a,b)?

A. 2
B. 4
C. 6
D. 8
E. 10


Hi MikeMighty and AMahmoodi

The approach is correct but you are faultering at two places.
1) you are looking for ordered pairs a,b so you cannot find combinations by simply multiplying. Each value of a and b, combined, should satisfy equation.
2) 100 is also a perfect square..

now the solution
Let's look at 8b^2.... B can take value as 0,1,2,3...
When b=4, 8b^2 becomes 128, more than Right Hand side..

When we subtract 108-8b^2, it should give us a perfect square as (a-b)^2 is a perfect square.
1) b=0,
\(108-8b^2=108..\)... NOT a perfect square.... OUT

2) b=1 or -1,
\(108-8*1^2=100... So.. (a-b)^2=100=10^2..\)...
# a-b=10....b=1,a=11 ; b=-1,a=9….....SO 2 ordered pairs
#a-b=-10...Again 2 ordered pairs
So 4 pairs here.

3) b= 2 or -2
\(108-8*2^2=76\)..... NOT a perfect square.... OUT

4) b=3 or -3..
\(108-8*3^2=36=6^2 ..or ..(-6)^2\)
#a-b=6.......2 ordered pairs
#a-b=-6..... Again 2 ordered pairs
So 4 pairs

Overall ordered pairs =4+4=8..

Just for info these are
a-b=10………(11,1);(9,-1)
a-b=-10………(-9,1);(-11,-1)
a-b=6………(9,3);(3,-3)
a-b=-6………(-3,3);(-9,-3)

D

I almost got to the correct answer, but in haste, failed to consider that b could also have a negative value, and hence, got to only 4 as the answer.
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b=0 (not possible)
b=±1, we get a=±10±1 (4 pairs)
b=±2, we get irrational a
b=±3, we get a=±6±3 (4 pairs)

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