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Schools: Sloan '21 (D) HBS '21 (D) Booth '21 (II) Wharton '21 (D) Yale '21 (A$) Kellogg '21 (M) Ross '21 (A$)
GMAT 1: 740 Q49 V42
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Hi All,
I have been admitted to Yale SOM Kellogg off the WL.
A little bit about me: Currently working in a Big 4 strategy consulting practice in Canada (5 years experience at matriculation).
Post MBA: a number of options I could pursue-
1. PM or Corp strategy role at likes of Google, Microsoft, etc.
2. MBB consulting
Geography preference: if it's MBB my first preference would be Canada otherwise Chicago
Yale SOM
Pros:
+ Global brand - wonder if it's stronger than Kellogg in Canada
+ Integrated perspectives- I do like how the core courses are positioned as stakeholders - makes things more interesting as I am a CPA and at any other school would waive the accounting, econ courses.
+ Fit: At interview day, the guest/mock lecture on negotiations was energetic and powerful. I've gotten a good vibe from current students and alumni. They've been extremely helpful.
+ Consulting recruiting
+ $50k for two years scholarship
Cons:
- On paper, Yale has a smaller class going into Tech. I am keen on knowing if that's self-selection in that Yale attracts bankers and consultants rather than Techies? I.e. Do I have the same shot at Google at Yale as I would at Kellogg?
- Limited experiential learning - A huge fan of learning by doing (loved Kellogg programs for this but wonder how many courses would that really be...maybe one lab course?)
Kellogg
Pros
+ Action-based learning: Lab courses are a huge draw
+ Course options
+ Fit: students seem down to earth here as well. Haven't interacted super closely so can't comment beyond that. Course taught as a mock lecture was very representative of what I'd say a normal class
+ Tech: seems like the place to be for tech recruiting
+ Consulting
+ Location
Cons
- Non B-school brand
- No $$
Hope this gives everyone a good view into where my head's at. Happy to hear thoughts! As you can tell I'm looking for both short and long term success.
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I have been admitted to Yale SOM Kellogg off the WL.
A little bit about me: Currently working in a Big 4 strategy consulting practice in Canada (5 years experience at matriculation).
Post MBA: a number of options I could pursue-
1. PM or Corp strategy role at likes of Google, Microsoft, etc.
2. MBB consulting
Geography preference: if it's MBB my first preference would be Canada otherwise Chicago
Yale SOM
Pros:
+ Global brand - wonder if it's stronger than Kellogg in Canada
+ Integrated perspectives- I do like how the core courses are positioned as stakeholders - makes things more interesting as I am a CPA and at any other school would waive the accounting, econ courses.
+ Fit: At interview day, the guest/mock lecture on negotiations was energetic and powerful. I've gotten a good vibe from current students and alumni. They've been extremely helpful.
+ Consulting recruiting
+ $50k for two years scholarship
Cons:
- On paper, Yale has a smaller class going into Tech. I am keen on knowing if that's self-selection in that Yale attracts bankers and consultants rather than Techies? I.e. Do I have the same shot at Google at Yale as I would at Kellogg?
- Limited experiential learning - A huge fan of learning by doing (loved Kellogg programs for this but wonder how many courses would that really be...maybe one lab course?)
Kellogg
Pros
+ Action-based learning: Lab courses are a huge draw
+ Course options
+ Fit: students seem down to earth here as well. Haven't interacted super closely so can't comment beyond that. Course taught as a mock lecture was very representative of what I'd say a normal class
+ Tech: seems like the place to be for tech recruiting
+ Consulting
+ Location
Cons
- Non B-school brand
- No $$
Hope this gives everyone a good view into where my head's at. Happy to hear thoughts! As you can tell I'm looking for both short and long term success.
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13 Jun 2019, 20:41
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Kellogg was good till a decade back, but it’s on the decline against the mighty Booth (and MIT).
Yale is giving you $50k, take it... and try to get a job outside of consulting in tech or whatever. You’ll be close to NYC, so you'll be able to network and find jobs. NYC > Chicago.
Yale has the ivy star power which doesn’t mean anything in USA, but it’s still regarded in the rest of the world.
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Yale is giving you $50k, take it... and try to get a job outside of consulting in tech or whatever. You’ll be close to NYC, so you'll be able to network and find jobs. NYC > Chicago.
Yale has the ivy star power which doesn’t mean anything in USA, but it’s still regarded in the rest of the world.
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GMAT 1: 720 Q49 V40
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15 Jun 2019, 11:37
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With your career goals in mind, my vote here is for Kellogg. SOM has done a fantastic job over the past couple years and solidified itself as a T15 school. However, it is still leagues behind Kellogg. The majority of people seem to conflate the undergraduate/law school brand of Yale with SOM. So, I'll be going through your career prospects at both programs to help remedy this.
Overall, SOM lags 25k/year behind Kellogg in median compensation figures 6-8 years out. Now before the board goes "but wait, Yale sends like 5 people to non profit a year, bringing the figures down!" Kellogg sends substantially more to marketing positions, which are also represented on the lower end of the median.
https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2017 ... s-schools/
Now for your specific industries:
1. PM recruiting - Yale sent 4 to google last year, Kellogg sent 9. Since Kellogg actually publishes their employment numbers, we can look into other top companies - 7 to FB, 5 to Apple, 3 to uber, 9 to MSFT, and 3 to Sf. Yale simply does not place this quantity into "top" tech positions, even if you adjust for Kellogg's class size. So your network here will be far stronger.
2. Consulting recruiting - if your goal here was MBB in Chicago, I don't think you should even be considering SOM. But since returning to Cannada is your top choice, this is a bit more complicated. Overall, Kellogg is quite a bit better at placing into MBB relative to SOM (60%+ MBB rate, vs mid 40s for SOM). But the market is likely more nuanced, so I took a look at MBB alumni living there from linkedin. Kellogg has 13 at Bain, 12 at MCK, and 11 at BCG in Canada. SOM has a whopping 2 MCK, 1 Bain and 1 BCG. Essentially, the alumni network is non-existent.
So, to reiterate, if your career goals remain unchanged, Kellogg should be your choice here. Now if you want to impress the barista at Starbucks, and have slightly less financial indenture for 4-5 years (your lifetime earnings will be most likely be higher at Kellogg) then go to SOM.
Overall, SOM lags 25k/year behind Kellogg in median compensation figures 6-8 years out. Now before the board goes "but wait, Yale sends like 5 people to non profit a year, bringing the figures down!" Kellogg sends substantially more to marketing positions, which are also represented on the lower end of the median.
https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2017 ... s-schools/
Now for your specific industries:
1. PM recruiting - Yale sent 4 to google last year, Kellogg sent 9. Since Kellogg actually publishes their employment numbers, we can look into other top companies - 7 to FB, 5 to Apple, 3 to uber, 9 to MSFT, and 3 to Sf. Yale simply does not place this quantity into "top" tech positions, even if you adjust for Kellogg's class size. So your network here will be far stronger.
2. Consulting recruiting - if your goal here was MBB in Chicago, I don't think you should even be considering SOM. But since returning to Cannada is your top choice, this is a bit more complicated. Overall, Kellogg is quite a bit better at placing into MBB relative to SOM (60%+ MBB rate, vs mid 40s for SOM). But the market is likely more nuanced, so I took a look at MBB alumni living there from linkedin. Kellogg has 13 at Bain, 12 at MCK, and 11 at BCG in Canada. SOM has a whopping 2 MCK, 1 Bain and 1 BCG. Essentially, the alumni network is non-existent.
So, to reiterate, if your career goals remain unchanged, Kellogg should be your choice here. Now if you want to impress the barista at Starbucks, and have slightly less financial indenture for 4-5 years (your lifetime earnings will be most likely be higher at Kellogg) then go to SOM.
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