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the answer has to be C: was fashioning a compromise and would deliver

the answer is in reported speech . in such cases the tense makes a jump from its usual tense !!
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the answer is in reported speech . in such cases the tense makes a jump from its usual tense !!


I agree. But what is the importance of "at that very moment". I still can't shake off the feeling that the original option fits just about right :) So for all reported speech type statements, what is the rule of thumb?
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aditya8062 wrote:
the answer is in reported speech . in such cases the tense makes a jump from its usual tense !!


I agree. But what is the importance of "at that very moment". I still can't shake off the feeling that the original option fits just about right :) So for all reported speech type statements, what is the rule of thumb?



My friend, see the information available here - https://magoosh.com/gmat/2013/sequence-o ... orrection/

I believe, this will surely help you in some way.
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But what is the importance of "at that very moment


yeah it is important. in fact without this phrase i wouldn't have been able to decide between "was fashioning" AND "had been fashioning" . the reasoning is as follows:
as i have said in reported speech the tenses makes a usual jump. now that is a very crude way of saying but what does that actually mean?
suppose i met the governor and he said following thing to me: "at that very moment, his team is fashioning...." then that would become in reported speech as "at that very moment, his team was fashioning...."-----> now the important role that the phrase "at that very moment" is playing is that it is guiding me to the fact that the manager was talking in present progressive tense. without this phrase i am left to a possibility that he might be talking in "past progressive", in that case my reported speech would have been "had been fashioning ......"
NOW the important point is has GMAC ever tested such constructions? i do not remember any official problem that has tested such a nuance.
i will appreciate if the makers of this question (MIKE & TEAM) can chime in to further elaborate.
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That brings me to the next question - How does one recognize if the question relates to a reported speech type? Are they any cue points?


Excerpt from Mike's (Magoosh) explanation:

Direct speech means we use quotation marks around what is said, to indicate that it is the exact wording.
The governor said, “They are working right now and will deliver it.”
Whenever the quotation marks are absent and the word “that” is present, that’s indirect speech.
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In reporting sentences, we have to go back 1 tense. Because the governor said that..... --> "is fashioning" & "will deliver" are wrong.

When the reporter asked about the status of the budget, the governor said that, at that very moment, his team is fashioning a compromise and will deliver it to the senate offices by later that afternoon.

A) is fashioning a compromise and will deliver --> WRONG
B) fashions a compromise and will deliver --> WRONG
C) was fashioning a compromise and would deliver --> CORRECT
D) had been fashioning a compromise and would deliver --> WRONG
E) has fashioned a compromise and will deliver --> WRONG

Hope it helps.
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Sir, could you please confirm my analysis of this question.

When the reporter asked about the status of the budget, the governor said that, at that very moment, his team is fashioning a compromise and will deliver it to the senate offices by later that afternoon.
A) is fashioning a compromise and will deliver
B) fashions a compromise and will deliver
C) was fashioning a compromise and would deliver
D) had been fashioning a compromise and would deliver
E) has fashioned a compromise and will deliver

I cancelled Choice D because there is no connection between any simple tense activity and the Perfect Continuous tense mention in Option D. Correct?

Thanks.
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Sir, could you please confirm my analysis of this question.

When the reporter asked about the status of the budget, the governor said that, at that very moment, his team is fashioning a compromise and will deliver it to the senate offices by later that afternoon.
A) is fashioning a compromise and will deliver
B) fashions a compromise and will deliver
C) was fashioning a compromise and would deliver
D) had been fashioning a compromise and would deliver
E) has fashioned a compromise and will deliver

I cancelled Choice D because there is no connection between any simple tense activity and the Perfect Continuous tense mention in Option D. Correct?



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Hi ravi19012015,

You are correct..
Here we are using 'Past perfect continuous' and this is correct only when we are talking of an event which happened in the past , continued for some time and finished in past itself.
He had beenplaying for 2 hrs when his mother called him home.

But here you require simple past and simple past would be correct here.
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chetan2u

Sir, could you please confirm my analysis of this question.

When the reporter asked about the status of the budget, the governor said that, at that very moment, his team is fashioning a compromise and will deliver it to the senate offices by later that afternoon.
A) is fashioning a compromise and will deliver
B) fashions a compromise and will deliver
C) was fashioning a compromise and would deliver
D) had been fashioning a compromise and would deliver
E) has fashioned a compromise and will deliver

I cancelled Choice D because there is no connection between any simple tense activity and the Perfect Continuous tense mention in Option D. Correct?



Thanks.


Hi ravi19012015,

You are correct..
Here we are using 'Past perfect continuous' and this is correct only when we are talking of an event which happened in the past , continued for some time and finished in past itself.
He had beenplaying for 2 hrs when his mother called him home.

But here you require simple past and simple past would be correct here.




Hi chetan2u,

I made the question right because this is what we learnt while changing active to passive voice.

However, this sentence made me think why can choice D not be correct.

I am doing this job from last two years.

I have been doing this job for last two year.

Are the above two sentences correct ? If yes, is there any difference between the two?
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Hi chetan2u,

I made the question right because this is what we learnt while changing active to passive voice.

However, this sentence made me think why can choice D not be correct.

I am doing this job from last two years.

I have been doing this job for last two year.

Are the above two sentences correct ? If yes, is there any difference between the two?


To answer why D is incorrect:

Notice the phrase "at that very moment". It means both the actions happened at the same time. Hence, there is no sequence of tenses that we need to follow. "Governor said" and "team was fashioning" are both happening at the same time.

To answer your other question:

I am doing this job from last two years. ( INCORRECT. If you are saying the action is continuing since last two years, you MUST use present perfect tense.)

I have been doing this job for last two year. (100% correct).

I hope that makes sense.
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Hi I got a doubt in this question about usage of past perfect continuous.

At that time in past Those people were doing some ongoing action of fashioning a compromise. So why cannot we use past perfect continuous there.

at that time they had been fashioning the compromise and would deliver the message by tomorrow. :) .

Waiting for replies concerning my question. +kudos if the reply satisfies me. :) thank you.
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Hi I got a doubt in this question about usage of past perfect continuous.

At that time in past Those people were doing some ongoing action of fashioning a compromise. So why cannot we use past perfect continuous there.

at that time they had been fashioning the compromise and would deliver the message by tomorrow. :) .

Waiting for replies concerning my question. +kudos if the reply satisfies me. :) thank you.


My friend, Past perfect should be used when we want to show the sequence of two events that happened in the past. For past perfect continuous, we need to show two events such that one happened earlier and was still continuing when the other started. So, you see? Again we have two events that happened in the past but one started before another.

Your sentence below has a couple of mistakes:

At that time they had been fashioning the compromise and would deliver the message by tomorrow.

1. There is only one event that happened in the past. So, using past perfect or past perfect continuous is incorrect.
2. When we say tomorrow or today, we need to make sure we are saying that in present. As per your sentence, it should not be tomorrow. It MUST be the next day.

So, the correct sentence will be

At that time they were fashioning the compromise and would deliver the message by the next day.

I hope it makes sense. :)
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not convinced with the explanation provided by mike. Can you explain it further why past progressive is right here
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not convinced with the explanation provided by mike. Can you explain it further why past progressive is right here



Because the sentence said the "team said" so it would be a past tense
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Dear Friends,

Here is a detailed explanation to this question-

chetan86 wrote:
When the reporter asked about the status of the budget, the governor said that, at that very moment, his team is fashioning a compromise and will deliver it to the senate offices by later that afternoon.

(A) is fashioning a compromise and will deliver
(B) fashions a compromise and will deliver
(C) was fashioning a compromise and would deliver
(D) had been fashioning a compromise and would deliver
(E) has fashioned a compromise and will deliver


Choice A: This answer choice uses the present tense verb "is fashioning" to refer to a past event. Thus, this answer choice is incorrect.

Choice B: This answer choice uses the simple present tense verb "fashions" to refer to a past event. Thus, this answer choice is incorrect

Choice C: This answer choice correctly utilizes the simple past continuous tense to describe an action that was ongoing in the past. Thus, this answer choice is correct.

Choice D: This answer choice incorrectly uses the past perfect continuous tense; the actions of the team are described as being simultaneous with the other event described in this sentence, the reporter asking a question, meaning there is no need to use this tense because the sentence refers to only one time period. Thus, this answer choice is incorrect.

Choice E: This answer choice uses the past perfect tense to refer to an action that was ongoing at the reported time of speaking. Thus, this answer choice is incorrect.

Hence, C is the best answer choice.

To understand the concept of "Simple Continuous Tenses on GMAT", you may want to watch the following video (~1 minute):



To understand the concept of "Present Perfect Continuous Tenses on GMAT", you may want to watch the following video (~1 minute):



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