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630 (Q39, V38) - good enough ?

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Hi guys,

I was checking this forum regulary for a past 2 weeks or so. It gave me a lot of inspirations and I would like to pay back something. So here is my story:

I did the GMAT on June 30 this year with terrible score of 510 (Q39, V22).
I completely underestimated the test, studying for only about 5-7 evenings.

Although the score sucked, I applied to 2 schools (IMD and INSEAD). IMD suggested me to retake the test and put my app on hold. INSEAD did not reply until the 2 week ago, when I wrote them I would be redoing the test. They encouraged me and put my app on hold also.

I said to my self: Go for it, you can make it effectively in a short time. So I took a week off from work and spent about 10 consecutive days hard time studying (11 hours a day). I used OG11 and 2008 Kaplan premier program.

Today I did the test with score of 630 (Q39, V38). I encreased the verbal part dramatically. However I did the math the same way I did it last time. The reason is that I made 2 critical strategic errors.
Firstly I spent too much time on question number 1, I was shocked how hard it was and having in mind that I need to make first 10 question as good as possible, I ended up solving it for almost a 5 minutes !!! Then I got under the stress.
Second critical error in math was that I did not finish it by roughly 4 questions. This got me penalized heavily I guess.

You could see and feel my frustration after the math. But I do not know how, the verbal part was suddenly so easy. I was cruising the all the questions with such an ease. And given the fact that I am not native English speaker, I am quite proud of my V38.

The essays were really nothing to worry about, I did not spend more then an 2 hours preparing for it and I think I will get a decent score (last time it was 4,1 without any preparation and under a lot more stress).

Now, I hope I am back in the game with my apps and will keep you updated on the results.

Take care, this site is great.
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Hi Hoangnguyen123
Good enough? No, you need at least 670 and 700 for IMD and INSEAD respectively.

You have to work harder on your Quant. if you are running out of time, try to take a condensed Quant course . for example, Math Revolution Short-Cut 51 is one month course focusing on Quant. (or try to email leading companies in GMAT courses and see what they can offer you in a 2 week to one month package).
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Hi Hoangnguyen123,

Great job to increase your verbal from v22 to v38. But your Quant Q39 (35 percentile) is considered low. Correct me if I am wrong, but I remembered INSEAD even explicitly states in its website that each section preferably scores about 70 percentile (which is Q48-49).

There is room for some improvement to your verbal score too.

Just try to exercise with gmatclub quant test or free questions from this forum. You can look at Bunuel's post or chetan2u's answers.

I believe retaking and scoring to 700 level will open many doors to your dream b-schools. Good luck

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Hi guys,

I was checking this forum regulary for a past 2 weeks or so. It gave me a lot of inspirations and I would like to pay back something. So here is my story:

I did the GMAT on June 30 this year with terrible score of 510 (Q39, V22).
I completely underestimated the test, studying for only about 5-7 evenings.

Although the score sucked, I applied to 2 schools (IMD and INSEAD). IMD suggested me to retake the test and put my app on hold. INSEAD did not reply until the 2 week ago, when I wrote them I would be redoing the test. They encouraged me and put my app on hold also.

I said to my self: Go for it, you can make it effectively in a short time. So I took a week off from work and spent about 10 consecutive days hard time studying (11 hours a day). I used OG11 and 2008 Kaplan premier program.

Today I did the test with score of 630 (Q39, V38). I encreased the verbal part dramatically. However I did the math the same way I did it last time. The reason is that I made 2 critical strategic errors.
Firstly I spent too much time on question number 1, I was shocked how hard it was and having in mind that I need to make first 10 question as good as possible, I ended up solving it for almost a 5 minutes !!! Then I got under the stress.
Second critical error in math was that I did not finish it by roughly 4 questions. This got me penalized heavily I guess.

You could see and feel my frustration after the math. But I do not know how, the verbal part was suddenly so easy. I was cruising the all the questions with such an ease. And given the fact that I am not native English speaker, I am quite proud of my V38.

The essays were really nothing to worry about, I did not spend more then an 2 hours preparing for it and I think I will get a decent score (last time it was 4,1 without any preparation and under a lot more stress).

Now, I hope I am back in the game with my apps and will keep you updated on the results.

Take care, this site is great.


Hi Hoangnguyen123,

Firstly congratulations on a great verbal score. It is indeed a great improvement from your previous score. However, I do think you should try to improve Quant score a bit. Business schools such as Insead Business School look for 70th percentile in each section. They may ask you to retake to improve your Quant score. I would recommend you to reach out to the adcom and seek their guidance
before you decide on your next steps.

Hope this helps. All the best!
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Nice improvement in verbal .You didn’t use any resource apart from OG and Kaplan?
Hoangnguyen123 wrote:
Hi guys,

I was checking this forum regulary for a past 2 weeks or so. It gave me a lot of inspirations and I would like to pay back something. So here is my story:

I did the GMAT on June 30 this year with terrible score of 510 (Q39, V22).
I completely underestimated the test, studying for only about 5-7 evenings.

Although the score sucked, I applied to 2 schools (IMD and INSEAD). IMD suggested me to retake the test and put my app on hold. INSEAD did not reply until the 2 week ago, when I wrote them I would be redoing the test. They encouraged me and put my app on hold also.

I said to my self: Go for it, you can make it effectively in a short time. So I took a week off from work and spent about 10 consecutive days hard time studying (11 hours a day). I used OG11 and 2008 Kaplan premier program.

Today I did the test with score of 630 (Q39, V38). I encreased the verbal part dramatically. However I did the math the same way I did it last time. The reason is that I made 2 critical strategic errors.
Firstly I spent too much time on question number 1, I was shocked how hard it was and having in mind that I need to make first 10 question as good as possible, I ended up solving it for almost a 5 minutes !!! Then I got under the stress.
Second critical error in math was that I did not finish it by roughly 4 questions. This got me penalized heavily I guess.

You could see and feel my frustration after the math. But I do not know how, the verbal part was suddenly so easy. I was cruising the all the questions with such an ease. And given the fact that I am not native English speaker, I am quite proud of my V38.

The essays were really nothing to worry about, I did not spend more then an 2 hours preparing for it and I think I will get a decent score (last time it was 4,1 without any preparation and under a lot more stress).

Now, I hope I am back in the game with my apps and will keep you updated on the results.

Take care, this site is great.


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Hi Hoangnguyen123,

You clearly made some fantastic improvements to how you handle the Verbal section, but your Q39 will likely be seen as a 'red flag' at many Programs - so you might need to retest one more time. Many Test Takers spend 3 months (or more) of consistent study time before they hit their 'peak' scores, so you might naturally improve if you are able to commit to a longer study period. If you would like to earn a similar improvement in the Quant section in as efficient a timeframe as possible, you first have to realize that the Quant section of the GMAT is NOT a 'math test'; it's a critical thinking test that requires lots of little calculations as you work through it. As such, if you plan to retest, then you will need to become more of a Quant 'strategist' as you continue to study.

Before I can offer you the specific advice that you’re looking for, it would help if you could provide a bit more information on your timeline and plans:

1) What 'deadlines' are you facing at each of the Schools that you plan to apply to?
2) If you are wait-listed or rejected from the 2 Schools you mentioned, will you apply to any other Schools?

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Hi Hoangnguyen123,

Do you plan to retake the GMAT?
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