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So as a domestic student, you won't be able to live on campus??

Oh well, I guess being admitted this early should give me some perks so once the admitted student site is open I am gonna book a room on campus and hold on to that room for dear life!

And if you ever come to Beijing again let me know! we have 5+ admits here in Beijing already, and more are rolling in! it'd be nice to get together. If not, we will definitely meet at one of the admit weekends, provided that you are coming :)

How do people do laundry without a laundry machine in the building? do they hand-wash their clothes? go to laundry machines in a nearby place? in China it doesn't work that way, we all have our washing machines in the apartment (not even in the building!).

BTW - are you currently still serving, Sir?
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Domestic students are mostly on their own, technically because I am living in Germany right now I would qualify for on campus housing as well because I am overseas, but I have to be married to have my girlfriend/fiancé with me so that pretty much rules that out.

I won't be in Beijing between now and next summer but I am definitely going to the new students weekend in February when they announce the exact dates.

If you can't do laundry in your building you will have to go to a laundromat in your neighborhood, they are pretty common so it's generally not far but it's a pain. I am sure there are also services that will pick it up and wash/dry/fold and charge based on weight which is way more convienant but it's also more expensive.

And yes, still currently serving. I will probably get out sometime in June
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Domestic students are mostly on their own, technically because I am living in Germany right now I would qualify for on campus housing as well because I am overseas, but I have to be married to have my girlfriend/fiancé with me so that pretty much rules that out.

I won't be in Beijing between now and next summer but I am definitely going to the new students weekend in February when they announce the exact dates.

If you can't do laundry in your building you will have to go to a laundromat in your neighborhood, they are pretty common so it's generally not far but it's a pain. I am sure there are also services that will pick it up and wash/dry/fold and charge based on weight which is way more convienant but it's also more expensive.

And yes, still currently serving. I will probably get out sometime in June
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I talked with Mr. Michael Robinson, Senior Associate Director of Admission, in Beijing last week. He said the dates of the admit weekend had been set already. They probably will announce it pretty soon. There should also be a one-day event in December for all the ED admits but it's definitely not worthy of you flying back.

It was really nice talking to you by the way. i am gonna crash now. take care!

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Can someone please share the process of the CBS background check? What firm conducts the check? what items the firm asks for (ie. contact info for jobs/ details re: extracurriculars)?

I'm quite curious as well. I have heard that Kroll doesn't do the background check for every admitted student, only if admissions finds something odd in your application. Is that true?

Well, basically I think your assessment is not entirely correct. I do believe they check every admitted (and committed) student, because they don't want to let any major cheaters attend CBS (it is primarily a reputation thing). And by the way, Columbia stopped using Kroll, it now employs the services of Re Vera. As far as I know, what they do is they send a form which you have to sign, and then pay them about $75 or so (this, unfortunately seems to happen in January or early February at the earliest). Then they go ahead and call your former school to check the transcript, your workplace(s) to see if and how long you actually worked there and in what position (and perhaps the salary), and your recommenders to see if they actually wrote your recommendation. From what I gather it is a pretty basic verification and they are not out to hang you by any means, just to make sure you haven't been grossly misleading them (which I hope is not the case on this forum). I don't know for sure, but Kroll apparently only verified the current employer info (perhaps this was only the case for some people); I have no idea how Re Vera goes about it to be honest. If anyone has better input, please go ahead and elaborate...:-)
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This is correct - CBS now uses Re Vera and every student is checked. Or well, at least, we all paid to be checked. I think it is generally seen as tougher and more thorough. I worked at a fizzled startup several years ago and I had to find old docs to prove that it actually existed and I worked there. My main extracurrics also got called and my recommenders also. Funny enough, we were having dinner when he got it. In regards to employers, Re Vera will call, and then fax a form to your employer detailing essentially everything you wrote down related to that employer (title, length of employment, salary, etc.) and they have to verify it and send it back. I am positive that my past two jobs were asked. If you don't want your employer to know that you got in until a later date, you have the option to indicate this when you pay Re Vera.
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This is correct - CBS now uses Re Vera and every student is checked. Or well, at least, we all paid to be checked. I think it is generally seen as tougher and more thorough. I worked at a fizzled startup several years ago and I had to find old docs to prove that it actually existed and I worked there. My main extracurrics also got called and my recommenders also. Funny enough, we were having dinner when he got it. In regards to employers, Re Vera will call, and then fax a form to your employer detailing essentially everything you wrote down related to that employer (title, length of employment, salary, etc.) and they have to verify it and send it back. I am positive that my past two jobs were asked. If you don't want your employer to know that you got in until a later date, you have the option to indicate this when you pay Re Vera.
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Hi there, first of all, thanks for answering the question here.

Just 1 follow-up questions: how did they get in touch with your extracurrics? did they find the people themselves or do you provide the contact info?

thanks in advance :)
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This is correct - CBS now uses Re Vera and every student is checked. Or well, at least, we all paid to be checked. I think it is generally seen as tougher and more thorough. I worked at a fizzled startup several years ago and I had to find old docs to prove that it actually existed and I worked there. My main extracurrics also got called and my recommenders also. Funny enough, we were having dinner when he got it. In regards to employers, Re Vera will call, and then fax a form to your employer detailing essentially everything you wrote down related to that employer (title, length of employment, salary, etc.) and they have to verify it and send it back. I am positive that my past two jobs were asked. If you don't want your employer to know that you got in until a later date, you have the option to indicate this when you pay Re Vera.

Hi there, first of all, thanks for answering the question here.

Just 1 follow-up questions: how did they get in touch with your extracurrics? did they find the people themselves or do you provide the contact info?

thanks in advance :)
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Good question... did we provide a contact / website on the app? Re Vera did not contact me for those details. Nevertheless, the head of the nonprofit I volunteered for knew I was going to CBS even though, I never told him.
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This is correct - CBS now uses Re Vera and every student is checked. Or well, at least, we all paid to be checked. I think it is generally seen as tougher and more thorough. I worked at a fizzled startup several years ago and I had to find old docs to prove that it actually existed and I worked there. My main extracurrics also got called and my recommenders also. Funny enough, we were having dinner when he got it. In regards to employers, Re Vera will call, and then fax a form to your employer detailing essentially everything you wrote down related to that employer (title, length of employment, salary, etc.) and they have to verify it and send it back. I am positive that my past two jobs were asked. If you don't want your employer to know that you got in until a later date, you have the option to indicate this when you pay Re Vera.

Hi there, first of all, thanks for answering the question here.

Just 1 follow-up questions: how did they get in touch with your extracurrics? did they find the people themselves or do you provide the contact info?

thanks in advance :)

Good question... did we provide a contact / website on the app? Re Vera did not contact me for those details. Nevertheless, the head of the nonprofit I volunteered for knew I was going to CBS even though, I never told him.
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No, the app asks no such information for extracurriculars, only for employers. So yes, that is a good question, but I guess that if the organizations you were involved in are well known they may get that information from public online resources. Of course, this creates some problems when the organization is fairly large and, as a volunteer, there may be no centralized information of your participation whatsoever. Take for example a political party with tens of thousands of volunteers. I guess in those cases, if they feel that it is an information that needs to be verified, they may ask you to provide a specific contact within the organization who may be able to confirm your involvement, which of course should not be a problem if you were truthful.

My guess is that the school has the option to customize the background check for each student, so they may verify more details for some students and fewer for others. It may have to do with the weight your extracurriculars had on your acceptance. The higher your involvement/position held, or the more resounding the organization, the more likely they are to want to make sure that you were honest, since it probably had more weight on your acceptance.
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This is correct - CBS now uses Re Vera and every student is checked. Or well, at least, we all paid to be checked. I think it is generally seen as tougher and more thorough. I worked at a fizzled startup several years ago and I had to find old docs to prove that it actually existed and I worked there. My main extracurrics also got called and my recommenders also. Funny enough, we were having dinner when he got it. In regards to employers, Re Vera will call, and then fax a form to your employer detailing essentially everything you wrote down related to that employer (title, length of employment, salary, etc.) and they have to verify it and send it back. I am positive that my past two jobs were asked. If you don't want your employer to know that you got in until a later date, you have the option to indicate this when you pay Re Vera.

Hi there, first of all, thanks for answering the question here.

Just 1 follow-up questions: how did they get in touch with your extracurrics? did they find the people themselves or do you provide the contact info?

thanks in advance :)

Good question... did we provide a contact / website on the app? Re Vera did not contact me for those details. Nevertheless, the head of the nonprofit I volunteered for knew I was going to CBS even though, I never told him.
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No, the app asks no such information for extracurriculars, only for employers. So yes, that is a good question, but I guess that if the organizations you were involved in are well known they may get that information from public online resources. Of course, this creates some problems when the organization is fairly large and, as a volunteer, there may be no centralized information of your participation whatsoever. Take for example a political party with tens of thousands of volunteers. I guess in those cases, if they feel that it is an information that needs to be verified, they may ask you to provide a specific contact within the organization who may be able to confirm your involvement, which of course should not be a problem if you were truthful.

My guess is that the school has the option to customize the background check for each student, so they may verify more details for some students and fewer for others. It may have to do with the weight your extracurriculars had on your acceptance. The higher your involvement/position held, or the more resounding the organization, the more likely they are to want to make sure that you were honest, since it probably had more weight on your acceptance.[/quote]

This sounds very reasonable. I was a Director (much less fancy than it sounds) of a regionally well known nonprofit. All it would have taken was a simple Google search to find out who to contact. I'm pretty sure that if you were grunt #8172 or door-to-door political campaign #2392, they probably realize it's extremely hard to confirm. Furthermore, I doubt that kind of stuff is what makes or breaks your application, so it would make sense not to bother with it.
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This is correct - CBS now uses Re Vera and every student is checked. Or well, at least, we all paid to be checked. I think it is generally seen as tougher and more thorough. I worked at a fizzled startup several years ago and I had to find old docs to prove that it actually existed and I worked there. My main extracurrics also got called and my recommenders also. Funny enough, we were having dinner when he got it. In regards to employers, Re Vera will call, and then fax a form to your employer detailing essentially everything you wrote down related to that employer (title, length of employment, salary, etc.) and they have to verify it and send it back. I am positive that my past two jobs were asked. If you don't want your employer to know that you got in until a later date, you have the option to indicate this when you pay Re Vera.

No, the app asks no such information for extracurriculars, only for employers. So yes, that is a good question, but I guess that if the organizations you were involved in are well known they may get that information from public online resources. Of course, this creates some problems when the organization is fairly large and, as a volunteer, there may be no centralized information of your participation whatsoever. Take for example a political party with tens of thousands of volunteers. I guess in those cases, if they feel that it is an information that needs to be verified, they may ask you to provide a specific contact within the organization who may be able to confirm your involvement, which of course should not be a problem if you were truthful.

My guess is that the school has the option to customize the background check for each student, so they may verify more details for some students and fewer for others. It may have to do with the weight your extracurriculars had on your acceptance. The higher your involvement/position held, or the more resounding the organization, the more likely they are to want to make sure that you were honest, since it probably had more weight on your acceptance.
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This sounds very reasonable. I was a Director (much less fancy than it sounds) of a regionally well known nonprofit. All it would have taken was a simple Google search to find out who to contact. I'm pretty sure that if you were grunt #8172 or door-to-door political campaign #2392, they probably realize it's extremely hard to confirm. Furthermore, I doubt that kind of stuff is what makes or breaks your application, so it would make sense not to bother with it.
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This is correct - CBS now uses Re Vera and every student is checked. Or well, at least, we all paid to be checked. I think it is generally seen as tougher and more thorough. I worked at a fizzled startup several years ago and I had to find old docs to prove that it actually existed and I worked there. My main extracurrics also got called and my recommenders also. Funny enough, we were having dinner when he got it. In regards to employers, Re Vera will call, and then fax a form to your employer detailing essentially everything you wrote down related to that employer (title, length of employment, salary, etc.) and they have to verify it and send it back. I am positive that my past two jobs were asked. If you don't want your employer to know that you got in until a later date, you have the option to indicate this when you pay Re Vera.

Hi there, first of all, thanks for answering the question here.

Just 1 follow-up questions: how did they get in touch with your extracurrics? did they find the people themselves or do you provide the contact info?

thanks in advance :)

Good question... did we provide a contact / website on the app? Re Vera did not contact me for those details. Nevertheless, the head of the nonprofit I volunteered for knew I was going to CBS even though, I never told him.
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So what you're saying is that you are no entirely certain that they in fact verified your extracurriculars, but you assume they did because the head of the nonprofit knew that you were accepted to CBS, correct?

Don't get me wrong, not asking because I have any concerns that there is a chance they will catch me with a lie on my application, but I am deeply concerned that they will want to verify my extracurriculars and it will be extremely hard to be able to prove that I was involved in one of them. Like not hard, extremely hard. Think involvement with community service related volunteers in an ex-Soviet country. Now how in hell am I going to be able to prove that? It's not even something major I did, and never claimed to be the leader of a 1000-person effort or anything like that, just minor involvement. First of all there was no organization that went by any name, just a few people willing to help, and there is definitely no way to verify that. But as minor and insignificant as it may have been, I chose to put it down because it was something I genuinely cared about and was marginally involved in in the past year and a half or so. But to prove my involvement (aside from calling a couple young people who were involved with me) I would have to probably spend a dozen hours tracking down people who ran these little charities hoping that they a) remember me; b) still work there.

So yeah, I am worrying like hell about this little crap detail even though I was not even accepted yet. But imagine being accepted and then having a major blow dealt because of a minor stupid detail like the one above, which I now regret I even included among my extracurr. I kinda wish the app made it as clear as possible that you should seriously consider only including those activities that are easy to verify, and perhaps ask for a specific contact within the organization to signal in a clear manner that if there is no definitive contact you can provide then you should probably forget about it altogether. And it's not like if I even get accepted it will be because of this little crap - it won't! God this is frustrating as hell, I certainly hope I am worrying too much over nothing really! :(

PS: And yeah, I am certain I am not the only one in a similar situation! :?
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Anyone thinking of living downtown? Im still debated on either downtown or upper west side...
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Yup, for me it's downtown all the way. Like financial district downtown! :-) I figure a 30 minute subway ride should be ideal to wake up properly with a Starbucks cup in one hand. In the other hand, need be, I could hold a book and brush up on some important notions before a class/exam.
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Yup, for me it's downtown all the way. Like financial district downtown! :-) I figure a 30 minute subway ride should be ideal to wake up properly with a Starbucks cup in one hand. In the other hand, need be, I could hold a book and brush up on some important notions before a class/exam.
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What websites are people using for their apartments? So far here are a few I have used for research:

Brick Underground - general real estate and neighborhood news, lots of good renting tips lists to review
https://brickunderground.com/blog/2014/0 ... hood_blogs

Apts and Lofts - mostly focuses on Brooklyn and Queens
https://www.aptsandlofts.com/

Naked Apartments - single biggest NYC specific site I have seen, with detailed destriptions of each neighborhood
https://www.nakedapartments.com/
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Ooh, by the way guys, I was going to post this earlier but I forgot. All admitted students who have received their UNI ids can actually go on the Columbia IT website (CUIT) and activate their lifetime @columbia.edu google powered e-mail addresses (each student has two addresses, one from Columbia and one from the business school - the @gsb.columbia.edu which is currently forwarded to your regular e-mail address but otherwise not available).
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Ooh, by the way guys, I was going to post this earlier but I forgot. All admitted students who have received their UNI ids can actually go on the Columbia IT website (CUIT) and activate their lifetime @columbia.edu google powered e-mail addresses (each student has two addresses, one from Columbia and one from the business school - the @gsb.columbia.edu which is currently forwarded to your regular e-mail address but otherwise not available).
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hey buddy! thanks for this info. could you elaborate a little bit on how to activate??? :)
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Ooh, by the way guys, I was going to post this earlier but I forgot. All admitted students who have received their UNI ids can actually go on the Columbia IT website (CUIT) and activate their lifetime @columbia.edu google powered e-mail addresses (each student has two addresses, one from Columbia and one from the business school - the @gsb.columbia.edu which is currently forwarded to your regular e-mail address but otherwise not available).


hey buddy! thanks for this info. could you elaborate a little bit on how to activate??? :)
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Absolutely! You go on the link below and select " activate UNI/e-mail". They will ask you for the UNI and last 4 digits of the SSN and 5 security questions:

https://cuit.columbia.edu/cuit/manage-my-uni

Enjoy! :-)

PS: I did not want to post the link the first time because people may be skeptical and not be willing to click on a link posted by a random guy on a random thread that asks for the last four digits of the SSN. I'd be equally skeptical! :-) So I suggest you google "UNI cuit Columbia", you'll get to the same page and be certain it is 100% safe! ;-)
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A great website for apartments is the Columbia off campus website. They have great prices and lots of choice, plus its only for Columbia students and admitted students, you actually have to send them your acceptance email for them to give you access to it. https://ocha.facilities.columbia.edu
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Ooh, by the way guys, I was going to post this earlier but I forgot. All admitted students who have received their UNI ids can actually go on the Columbia IT website (CUIT) and activate their lifetime @columbia.edu google powered e-mail addresses (each student has two addresses, one from Columbia and one from the business school - the @gsb.columbia.edu which is currently forwarded to your regular e-mail address but otherwise not available).


hey buddy! thanks for this info. could you elaborate a little bit on how to activate??? :)

Absolutely! You go on the link below and select " activate UNI/e-mail". They will ask you for the UNI and last 4 digits of the SSN and 5 security questions:

https://cuit.columbia.edu/cuit/manage-my-uni

Enjoy! :-)

PS: I did not want to post the link the first time because people may be skeptical and not be willing to click on a link posted by a random guy on a random thread that asks for the last four digits of the SSN. I'd be equally skeptical! :-) So I suggest you google "UNI cuit Columbia", you'll get to the same page and be certain it is 100% safe! ;-)
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buddy, thank you so much for sharing that! :)
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Calling ALL Admitted CBS Folks - Class of 2017 23 Sep 2014, 11:48
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Anyone thinking of living downtown? Im still debated on either downtown or upper west side...

Yup, for me it's downtown all the way. Like financial district downtown! :-) I figure a 30 minute subway ride should be ideal to wake up properly with a Starbucks cup in one hand. In the other hand, need be, I could hold a book and brush up on some important notions before a class/exam.
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Never ever live in downtown or financial district. It is a dead scene after office hour. I rather live Harlem if the budget is the concern.

I believe a large fraction of students live near campus (either in dorm or apartment). "Upper" UWS is the ideal location for most people. One-bed older doorman building is like 3000. Two single students could share a one-bed (convert to two-bed). Tons of restaurants and bars.

For family who want bigger/private space with limited budget, I recommend West Harlem. Harlem is not like 20 years ago. Most areas are safe and fun. A 1 bed walkup could only cost 1500.

Other nice neighborhood along 123 train (order by fun/median 1bed price):

Chelsea ($4000)
West village ($3600)
Midtown West/Hell's Kitchen ($3400)
Brooklyn Height ($3100)
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Sorry by downtown i meant chelsea, greenwich, soho/noho, or even flatiron... not very well versed will all the neighborhoods... yet :) I love those areas, just wondering if its too far from the action and the other columbia students.
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