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Well, I have finished early drafts of a few schools, and gearing to start the big S. I guess what I am struggling with is bringing down to what matters to me to a basic primary level. I totally agree with what hlin mentioned that it needs to be deeper than what has mattered to you over the last few years.

How are you guys doing that introspection? Anybody interested in some peer review?
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Interesting -- I have always recommended my clients start with Stanford first, PRECISELY because it forces you to do the kind of deep introspection that is going to be leveragable for all programs afterward. I find that what matters most to someone (and the more important "why") usually in some ways is connected to their career goals or future plans outside of work (like being a board member of a nonprofit whose work is important to the applicant for some personal reason, etc.). And so once the Stanford set of essays is complete (along with the app's mini essay), there is a lot of great content that can often be repurposed for other schools and it's already well thought out with the "why."

For Question 1 I tell clients to think about all of the most memorable moments in their lives -- things that really changed them or that stick in their memory for some reason. I also have them ask family members and lifelong friends for stories from their childhood and younger years that are "Classic Bob" (or whoever) - usually there is a pattern that emerges regarding something that applicant has always been into or cared about, even since their earliest days. To me, those are the strongest essays -- they show commitment to or action taken on something the client cared about for years if not decades.

Not everyone who is accepted into Stanford is going to have some sort of overarching life theme, of course, but I feel like many do and I would encourage applicants to spent A LOT of time thinking about it and asking others for their memories/stories before they get going on their drafts.

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Aaliyah537, I do think that is seriously good advice, and I know the blog you are referring to, and they are known to make solid posts. My 2 bits is that you will never know when that lightbulb will go off, and it is more likely that it will while you are working on some other essays. That said, it should not stop you from writing the Why Stanford content.

hlin - I'd be curious to know if you are willing to share your what matters most and why approach. How did you tackle it?

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Thanks, SBCErikaOlson for the suggestions. Even I'm yet to start brainstorming for Stanford. I can figure out what I can draft for "Why Stanford" but as souvik101990, I'm struck in deciding what I should draft for "What Matters Most. May be your suggestions would really help. I know Stanford values community oriented things. Should I include that and show the integrity and leadership in my 1st essay as well?
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I would suggest a different approach -- it sounds like you're trying to write what you think they want to hear and shoehorn examples in, which is usually not a good strategy for What Matters Most (or really, any MBA essay).

I would think back on your life and see if there is a common thread to things you've done that you're proudest of, or a theme to times you've taken action or initiative. Some of the stories could even be from childhood or when you were younger. If a common thread emerges, that's probably a hint as to what your "answer" is to What Matters Most. You have to be genuine and back up your answer with proof (things you've done/actions you've taken) about the thing you're claiming is all-important to you.

Hope that helps!

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Thanks, SBCErikaOlson for the suggestions. Even I'm yet to start brainstorming for Stanford. I can figure out what I can draft for "Why Stanford" but as souvik101990, I'm struck in deciding what I should draft for "What Matters Most. May be your suggestions would really help. I know Stanford values community oriented things. Should I include that and show the integrity and leadership in my 1st essay as well?

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I would suggest a different approach -- it sounds like you're trying to write what you think they want to hear and shoehorn examples in, which is usually not a good strategy for What Matters Most (or really, any MBA essay).

I would think back on your life and see if there is a common thread to things you've done that you're proudest of, or a theme to times you've taken action or initiative. Some of the stories could even be from childhood or when you were younger. If a common thread emerges, that's probably a hint as to what your "answer" is to What Matters Most. You have to be genuine and back up your answer with proof (things you've done/actions you've taken) about the thing you're claiming is all-important to you.

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Thanks again for your suggestion. I will try based on the approach you provided. :-D
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SBCErikaOlson, thanks a lot for your thoughts! Any advice for GSB reapplicants? In particular, given that the essay is the same, should it be different from the previous one? I understand CV and app form must be updated with all the accomplishments and developments, but what about essays? I believe there are basically 3 options:
1) Trying to write a completely different answer to WMM&W question
2) Keeping the same essay
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What would you generally recommend?

Similar question about references - should they be from different recommenders or from the same recommenders but different letters or could just be the same letters?

Questions are obviously GSB specific.

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SBCErikaOlson, thanks a lot for your thoughts! Any advice for GSB reapplicants? In particular, given that the essay is the same, should it be different from the previous one? I understand CV and app form must be updated with all the accomplishments and developments, but what about essays? I believe there are basically 3 options:
1) Trying to write a completely different answer to WMM&W question
2) Keeping the same essay
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What would you generally recommend?

Similar question about references - should they be from different recommenders or from the same recommenders but different letters or could just be the same letters?

Questions are obviously GSB specific.

Thanks in advance!


actually, some really good questions...as a re-applicant, I would love to know what to do with essays as well...should I keep the same or should I re-write everything from the scratch?

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I have worked with some successful Stanford reapplicants (note: they had all been interviewed in past attempts) and they mostly kept their What Matters Most essay the same. Because, I mean... wouldn't it be weird to CHANGE What Matters Most to you in the course of a year or so? Doing so would imply you hadn't really thought it through last time around. However, if there are additional examples/stories you can include in your response to provide further proof that you are "walking the walk" and actually DOING something about what matters most to you, that would be a worthy update to the essay. And if What Matters Most to you can somehow be tied to reapplying to Stanford then you could add that in as well (again, only if it makes sense -- not if it seems forced).

As for Essay 2, it's OK if you have tweaked your career goals (which would in turn slightly change your Why Stanford? details in that same response) -- perhaps you've done something else since the last time you applied that further solidified your goals or opened you up to a new direction. But if nothing has changed on that front either, that's OK too. Leave the essay the same.

Reapplying is mostly about taking the chance to see if you stack up better in the adcom's eyes with the new applicants you'll be compared to this year. But when it comes to a school like Stanford where the odds are so low in the first place, I would obviously recommend candidates apply to other schools as first-time applicants as well.

Best of luck!


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SBCErikaOlson, thanks a lot for your thoughts! Any advice for GSB reapplicants? In particular, given that the essay is the same, should it be different from the previous one? I understand CV and app form must be updated with all the accomplishments and developments, but what about essays? I believe there are basically 3 options:
1) Trying to write a completely different answer to WMM&W question
2) Keeping the same essay
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Thanks in advance!


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I have worked with some successful Stanford reapplicants (note: they had all been interviewed in past attempts) and they mostly kept their What Matters Most essay the same. Because, I mean... wouldn't it be weird to CHANGE What Matters Most to you in the course of a year or so? Doing so would imply you hadn't really thought it through last time around. However, if there are additional examples/stories you can include in your response to provide further proof that you are "walking the walk" and actually DOING something about what matters most to you, that would be a worthy update to the essay. And if What Matters Most to you can somehow be tied to reapplying to Stanford then you could add that in as well (again, only if it makes sense -- not if it seems forced).

As for Essay 2, it's OK if you have tweaked your career goals (which would in turn slightly change your Why Stanford? details in that same response) -- perhaps you've done something else since the last time you applied that further solidified your goals or opened you up to a new direction. But if nothing has changed on that front either, that's OK too. Leave the essay the same.

Reapplying is mostly about taking the chance to see if you stack up better in the adcom's eyes with the new applicants you'll be compared to this year. But when it comes to a school like Stanford where the odds are so low in the first place, I would obviously recommend candidates apply to other schools as first-time applicants as well.

Best of luck!


actually, some really good questions...as a re-applicant, I would love to know what to do with essays as well...should I keep the same or should I re-write everything from the scratch?


Thank you, Erika,

What if, say, I did not reflect enough on my "what matters to you, and why?" essay, and now I think I need to have it completely changed? just wondering - Does the admission committee check the app for last year for the re-applicants?

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While I think we can never know for sure and I find it hard to believe that the adcom would NOT recheck your past application to see what notes they had before they actually admit a reapplicant,
I have a client this year who called all of the top programs about this and it seems like Kellogg is the only one who said they definitely will look back at the past app upon their first review of a reapplicant's new submission. (The other schools said they would NOT look back at it... but I'm wondering if that's only for their first review/interview-invite determination and they still would before actually admitting something.)

That being said, if you feel like you didn't put your best foot forward in your previous application with your WMM answer and have thought it through more thoroughly now, then yes, I do think you should rewrite it. But I would NOT mention anything about your past application or actually say anything comparing it to what you wrote before. No need to call attention to it!

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Hi there -

I have worked with some successful Stanford reapplicants (note: they had all been interviewed in past attempts) and they mostly kept their What Matters Most essay the same. Because, I mean... wouldn't it be weird to CHANGE What Matters Most to you in the course of a year or so? Doing so would imply you hadn't really thought it through last time around. However, if there are additional examples/stories you can include in your response to provide further proof that you are "walking the walk" and actually DOING something about what matters most to you, that would be a worthy update to the essay. And if What Matters Most to you can somehow be tied to reapplying to Stanford then you could add that in as well (again, only if it makes sense -- not if it seems forced).

As for Essay 2, it's OK if you have tweaked your career goals (which would in turn slightly change your Why Stanford? details in that same response) -- perhaps you've done something else since the last time you applied that further solidified your goals or opened you up to a new direction. But if nothing has changed on that front either, that's OK too. Leave the essay the same.

Reapplying is mostly about taking the chance to see if you stack up better in the adcom's eyes with the new applicants you'll be compared to this year. But when it comes to a school like Stanford where the odds are so low in the first place, I would obviously recommend candidates apply to other schools as first-time applicants as well.

Best of luck!


actually, some really good questions...as a re-applicant, I would love to know what to do with essays as well...should I keep the same or should I re-write everything from the scratch?


Thank you, Erika,

What if, say, I did not reflect enough on my "what matters to you, and why?" essay, and now I think I need to have it completely changed? just wondering - Does the admission committee check the app for last year for the re-applicants?

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Thank you SBCErikaOlson!
another question regarding the re-applicants, maybe someone knows too...
if GMAT score & TOEFL were sent last year, do I need to resend the scores again, knowing that the university already has my records?

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I believe that as long as the scores are within the timeframe the school dictates (meaning they're not too old to be considered invalid) then you would not need to resend them as they would have them from last year).

However, this is a reason you should not wait until the last minute to upload your materials. The systems usually show check marks against each component of the application, so I believe you will get confirmation that they still have your scores once they match everything with your ID number/email (or however they match everyone's test scores to their applications).

If you are concerned, call them to be sure. And remember it usually takes at least 2 weeks for the test companies to send reports to the school (electronically) if you do indeed need to resend.

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Thank you SBCErikaOlson!
another question regarding the re-applicants, maybe someone knows too...
if GMAT score & TOEFL were sent last year, do I need to resend the scores again, knowing that the university already has my records?

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