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I am bit surprised that this question is from GMATPREP. Answer choices do not sound natural, but we can use POE to eliminate wrong answers.

Diesel engines burn as much as 30% less fuel than gasoline engines of comparable size, as well as emitting far less carbon dioxide gas and far fewer of the other gasses that have been implicated in global warming.

A. of comparable size , as well as emitting far less carbon dioxide gas and far fewer of the other gasses that have
B. of comparable size, as well as emit far less carbon dioxide gas and far fewer of the other gasses having -- emit is a verb and conjunction is missing.
C. of comparable size, and also they emit far fewer carbon dioxide and other gasses that have -- fewer CO2 -- we should use less to describe quantity of gas.
D. that have a comparable size, and also they emit far fewer of the other gasses having -- meaning lost -- less CO2 is missing -- having is not an appropriate modifier.
E. that have a comparable size, as well as emitting far fewer of the other gasses having -- meaning lost -- less CO2 is missing -- close to A but eliminated because of meaning loss -- having is not an appropriate modifier.

So we are left with A and we will have to accept as well as emitting as -ing modifier to main clause, technically nothing wrong in such use, but there are better ways to write such sentence.
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The sentence is actually taken form NYT
http://www.nytimes.com/2001/05/27/busin ... iesel.html

I guess option B, D, and E are wrong because of "having been" which acts as a verb (with an incorrect tense)

I found A a little awkward because of the phrase/modifier ", as well as emitting" although it is a valid construction.

I'm not sure why C is wrong. Probably, because of the pronoun but even with that mistake, I would rather prefer C.
The subject of the sentence is "Diesel Engines" and when the sentence says " , and also they emit" it is quite biased to say "they" refers to the subject.

Can someone elaborate why A is preferred more than C? Are there any other mistakes? Is the pronoun usage absolutely invalid or is it okay?



Hi b2bt,

Let us take a look at the sentence structure for option C:

• Diesel engines burn as much as 30% less fuel than gasoline engines of comparable size,
• and also they emit far fewer carbon dioxide and other gasses
o that have been implicated in global warming.

Now, there are two errors in this sentence:

Idiom Error: Using ‘fewer’ with the uncountable noun ‘carbon dioxide’ is incorrect. ‘Fewer’ is used to compare countable nouns. For uncountable nouns, ‘less’ is used.

Joey took fewer steps than I did to reach to the sofa. (Steps- Countable Noun)
Joey took less time than I did to reach to the sofa. (Time- Uncountable Noun)

Redundancy Error: Since the connector ‘and’ is already used in this sentence to represent the additional information, using ‘also’ is redundant.

Also, since the pronoun ‘they’ acts as the subject of the second clause, it refers to the noun that is the subject of the previous clause. (In this very point, the pronoun ‘it’ refers to ‘the pronoun they’.) So, there is no pronoun error in this option.

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Diesel engines burn as much as 30% less fuel than gasoline engines of comparable size, as well as emitting far less carbon dioxide gas and far fewer of the other gasses that have been implicated in global warming.
A. of comparable size , as well as emitting far less carbon dioxide gas and far fewer of the other gasses that have
B. of comparable size, as well as emit far less carbon dioxide gas and far fewer of the other gasses having

Hi,
Can someone please help me with below queries:
1.less carbon dioxide gas and far fewer of the other gases
I understand why to use "less" for CD [CD is un-countable] but what about "far fewer". Like CD, "the other gases" are also UC so why to use fewer,which is countable.
2. In the option B, is "having" modifying "the other gases" ?

I appreciate your inputs on the shared queries.


Just to add..
Another reason why B is wrong :
"emit" is a verb and hence a conjunction is req it to connect with burn.
Also, in option A emitting is the ing-modifier- modifying the preceding clause and makes sense with sub "Diesel engines ".
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Diesel engines burn as much as 30% less fuel than gasoline engines of comparable size, as well as emitting far less carbon dioxide gas and far fewer of the other gasses that have been implicated in global warming.
A. of comparable size , as well as emitting far less carbon dioxide gas and far fewer of the other gasses that have
B. of comparable size, as well as emit far less carbon dioxide gas and far fewer of the other gasses having

Hi,
Can someone please help me with below queries:
1.less carbon dioxide gas and far fewer of the other gases
I understand why to use "less" for CD [CD is un-countable] but what about "far fewer". Like CD, "the other gases" are also UC so why to use fewer,which is countable.
2. In the option B, is "having" modifying "the other gases" ?

I appreciate your inputs on the shared queries.
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Hi JarvisR,

Thanks for posting your doubt here. :-)

1. The choice says that the car emits less carbon dioxide. This is correct because carbon dioxide as a gas cannot be counted. Hence, use of "less" is correct here. And you completely understand that point.

Now, the second part of the choice says that the car emits far fewer of the other gases. This means that the diesel run car does not emit as many toxic gases as gasoline run cars do. Say for example, if gasoline cars emit 5 toxic gases, the diesel run cars emit only 2 of these gasses. So here the sentence is talking about the number of toxic gases emitted by these two types of cars. Noe the types of gases are certainly countable. hence, use of "fewer" is correct here.

2. Yes, "having been..." modifies preceding noun entity "other gases". However, this expression is not as precise as "that have been implicated..."

Hope this helps. :-)
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A of comparable size , as well as emitting far less carbon dioxide gas and far fewer of the other gases that have
correct. less gas, fewer other gases (number) emitting is noun form so correct.
B of comparable size, as well as emit far less carbon dioxide gas and far fewer of the other gases having
having been implicated is dangling modifier...no clear modifying entity..eliminate
C of comparable size, and also they emit far fewer carbon dioxide and other gases that have
we cannot count carbon dioxide fewer is wrong..eliminate
D that have a comparable size, and also they emit far fewer of the other gases having
same mistake as b
E that have a comparable size, as well as emitting far fewer of the other gases having
same mistake as b


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Diesel engines burn as much as 30% less fuel than gasoline engines of comparable size, as well as emitting far less carbon dioxide gas and far fewer of the other gases that have been implicated in global warming.
A of comparable size , as well as emitting far less carbon dioxide gas and far fewer of the other gases that have
B of comparable size, as well as emit far less carbon dioxide gas and far fewer of the other gases having
C of comparable size, and also they emit far fewer carbon dioxide and other gases that have
D that have a comparable size, and also they emit far fewer of the other gases having
E that have a comparable size, as well as emitting far fewer of the other gases having

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Nice question
It has to be letter A:

A. of comparable size , as well as emitting far less carbon dioxide gas and far fewer of the other gasses that have
Correct it has a complete clause, and a second sentence which depends on the first one.

B. of comparable size, as well as emit far less carbon dioxide gas and far fewer of the other gasses having
Incorrect Who emits? the second clause is incomplete.

C. of comparable size, and also they emit far fewer carbon dioxide and other gasses that have
Incorrect Who is they? which engine is the sentence about?

D. that have a comparable size, and also they emit far fewer of the other gasses having
Incorrect same problem that we have with letter C, and the meaning of the sentence is changed

E. that have a comparable size, as well as emitting far fewer of the other gasses having
Incorrect It changes the meaning

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Hi Douglasvg,

Kindly highlight how you infer that the first one is different from second. IMO both are connected by "as well as".

Also for both the sentences "diesel engines" is the subject.

Also, if you could clarify the doubts I have raised, would be really grateful.

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Kindly highlight how you infer that the first one is different from second. IMO both are connected by "as well as".

Also for both the sentences "diesel engines" is the subject.

Also, if you could clarify the doubts I have raised, would be really grateful.

Hi Dominicraj,

in the first option you don't have a noun, however you have a verb with ING, therefore it is talking about the Diesel that is in the first Noun.

In the second option you don't have any noun. therefore it is a run-on sentence, which makes the second option wrong. You can see it because if we had a noun in the second part, we would have 2 independent clauses.

"having been" is also an awkward construction.

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Hi Douglasvg,

in the first option you don't have a noun, however you have a verb with ING, therefore it is talking about the Diesel that is in the first Noun.

Actually "emit" is also a verb but then its not in its usual form of "verb-ed" or "verb-ing". I agree that "having" is awkward and hence you have eliminated.

You can also refer to Mitch Hunt's explanation here:

http://www.beatthegmat.com/diesel-engin ... 88260.html

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Plz read the following link, especially the two sentences at the bottom suggesting why we need VERBing after "as well as"

site.uit.no/english/grammar/aswellas/

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The correct answer should be A

One can very easily restructure option A (with same SV, TENSE, and MEANING) as:-
Emitting far less CO2 and far fewer other gases that have been implicated in global warming, Diesel engines also burn as less as 30% fuel than gasoline engines of similar size.

As we can see Emitting is correct and burn is also correct. There is no issue of parallelism. For example analyse this sentence.

Creating a mouth watering strawberry cake in the final of the cooking competition, the twin sisters strenghten the believe that often the best recipes are simple.
No one will use strengthening just to create parallelism because then the verb-tense agreement will fall apart.

Same with our question here.

A is corrrect


Diesel engines burn as much as 30% less fuel than gasoline engines of
comparable size, as well as emitting far less carbon dioxide gas and far fewer of
the other gasses that have been implicated in global warming.
A. of comparable size , as well as emitting far less carbon dioxide gas and far fewer of
the other gasses that have
B. of comparable size, as well as emit far less carbon dioxide gas and far fewer of the
other gasses having
C. of comparable size, and also they emit far fewer carbon dioxide and other gasses
that have
D. that have a comparable size, and also they emit far fewer of the other gasses
having
E. that have a comparable size, as well as emitting far fewer of the other gasses
having
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The correct answer should be A

One can very easily restructure option A (with same SV, TENSE, and MEANING) as:-
Emitting far less CO2 and far fewer other gases that have been implicated in global warming, Diesel engines also burn as less as 30% fuel than gasoline engines of similar size.

As we can see Emitting is correct and burn is also correct. There is no issue of parallelism. For example analyse this sentence.

Creating a mouth watering strawberry cake in the final of the cooking competition, the twin sisters strenghten the believe that often the best recipes are simple.
No one will use strengthening just to create parallelism because then the verb-tense agreement will fall apart.

Same with our question here.

A is corrrect


Diesel engines burn as much as 30% less fuel than gasoline engines of
comparable size, as well as emitting far less carbon dioxide gas and far fewer of
the other gasses that have been implicated in global warming.
A. of comparable size , as well as emitting far less carbon dioxide gas and far fewer of
the other gasses that have
B. of comparable size, as well as emit far less carbon dioxide gas and far fewer of the
other gasses having
C. of comparable size, and also they emit far fewer carbon dioxide and other gasses
that have
D. that have a comparable size, and also they emit far fewer of the other gasses
having
E. that have a comparable size, as well as emitting far fewer of the other gasses
having
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Diesel engines burn as much as 30 percent less fuel than that burned by gasoline engines of comparable size while emitting far less carbon dioxide gas and far fewer of the other greenhouse gases that have been implicated in global warning.

A) burn as much as 30 percent less fuel than that burned by gasoline engines.
B) burn as much as 30 percent less fuel than that for gasoline engines that are
C) burn as much as 30 percent less fuel than do gasoline engines
D) burning as much as 30 percent less fuel than do gasoline engines that are
E) that burn as much as 30 percent less fuel than that burned by gasoline engines


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I Choose A. Below is my explanation for same:

Diesel engines burn as much as 30 percent less fuel than that burned by gasoline engines of comparable size while emitting far less carbon dioxide gas and far fewer of the other greenhouse gases that have been implicated in global warning.

A) burn as much as 30 percent less fuel than that burned by gasoline engines.
Makes perfect sense

B) burn as much as 30 percent less fuel than that for gasoline engines that are
Diesel engines does not burn fuel for gasoline engines

C) burn as much as 30 percent less fuel than do gasoline engines
Than Gasoline engines do , would have been a better construction.

D) burningas much as 30 percent less fuel than do gasoline engines that are
Burn vs burning ( burning is wrong usage of tense)

E) that burn as much as 30 percent less fuel than that burned by gasoline engines
Original sentence is a statement presenting fact. Extra usage of that in starting tries to show comparison.
eg Diesel engine that burn fuel less than that burned by petrol is more economical.

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Diesel engines burn as much as 30 percent less fuel than that burned by gasoline engines of comparable size while emitting far less carbon dioxide gas and far fewer of the other greenhouse gases that have been implicated in global warning.

A) burn as much as 30 percent less fuel than that burned by gasoline engines.
B) burn as much as 30 percent less fuel than that for gasoline engines that are
C) burn as much as 30 percent less fuel than do gasoline engines
D) burning as much as 30 percent less fuel than do gasoline engines that are
E) that burn as much as 30 percent less fuel than that burned by gasoline engines


Discuss each choice.
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C is clear winner. A, D and E are out straight awary. B is too much wordy. Preposition "do" correctly signifies the burning of gasoline and diesel engines.

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+ 1 for A.
In A, That clearly refers to fuel.

C seems awkward.

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The intent of the passage is to compare between how much the DEs burn in comparison to how much similar vehicles do. Therefore, we must look for an action word after the marker ’than’.

Only C and D compare the actions, we may simply dump A, B and E. Between C and D, D is a clear fragment because it lacks a verb for DEs. Therefore C.
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