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# Editor: We use the computer to check the length of our articles, but

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Editor: We use the computer to check the length of our articles, but surprisingly there is good reason to believe that the word count it provides is inaccurate. Several times when an article's words were carefully counted by our most reliable copy editor, the resulting count differed from the count the computer gave

The editor's reasoning relies on which of the following assumptions?

(A) the criteria that the computer uses in determining what constitutes a single word differ from the criteria that the copy editor uses

(B) the inaccuracy of the computer's word count does not result from a malfunction of the computer itself

(C) it would be possible to modify the computer so that it counted words more accurately

(D) a careful count by the copy editor is unlikely to be less accurate than the computer's count

(E) the accuracy of the computer's word count is not dependent on the length of the article that it is measuring
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Editor: We use the computer to check the length of our articles, but surprisingly there is good reason to believe that the word count it provides is inaccurate. Several times when an article's words were carefully counted by our most reliable copy editor, the resulting count differed from the count the computer gave

The editor's reasoning relies on which of the following assumptions?

A) the criteria that the computer uses in determining what constitutes a single word differ from the criteria that the copy editor uses
B) the inaccuracy of the computer's word count does not result from a malfunction of the computer itself
C) it would be possible to modify the computer so that it counted words more accurately
D) a careful count by the copy editor is unlikely to be less accurate than the computer's count
E) the accuracy of the computer's word count is not dependent on the length of the article that it is measuring

Given Argument: Word count provided by a computer and a reliable copy editor differ frequently. So the count given by computer is incorrect.

Option A: the criteria that the computer uses in determining what constitutes a single word differ from the criteria that the copy editor uses.
If this is correct, then the copy editor could have been asked to count with the same criteria in mind so that they can actually check the word count given by the computer.
Hence option A is incorrect.

Option B: the inaccuracy of the computer's word count does not result from a malfunction of the computer itself.
The editor believes that the computer is inaccurate but he neither implied nor based his belief on the premise that the computer is malfunctioning.
Hence option B is incorrect.

Option C: it would be possible to modify the computer so that it counted words more accurately.
Again same reasoning as the previous option. He believed that the computer is inaccurate but didn't have any idea about reason behind it.
Hence option C is incorrect.

Option D: a careful count by the copy editor is unlikely to be less accurate than the computer's count.
This means that the editor believed in the accuracy of his copy editor more than a computer and this in fact seems to be the case. When comparing the word count given by the computer to that of the copy editor, he didn't take into account the possibility that the copy editor might have been wrong. This led to his conclusion that the computer is inaccurate at times.
Therefore option D is correct.

Option E: the accuracy of the computer's word count is not dependent on the length of the article that it is measuring.
The dependency of the computer's accuracy on the word count hasn't been mentioned anywhere and the editor himself doesn't have any idea about the discrepancies between the results.
Hence option E is incorrect.

The correct option is D
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02 May 2013, 20:17
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Let’s look at the relevant information to solve this question:
Premise: Both computer and most reliable copy editor counted the words in an article and the counts are different.
Conclusion: the computer is inaccurate.
We need to question that "why couldn't the human editor be wrong?” .So any assumption pointing in this direction will be the correct answer.

Now choice D) (a careful count by the copy editor is unlikely to be less accurate than the computer's count) says exactly what we mentioned above and hence is the correct answer.
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Editor: We use the computer to check the length of our articles, but surprisingly there is good reason to believe that the word count it provides is inaccurate. Several times when an article's words were carefully counted by our most reliable copy editor, the resulting count differed from the count the computer gave

The editor's reasoning relies on which of the following assumptions?

A) the criteria that the computer uses in determining what constitutes a single word differ from the criteria that the copy editor uses
B) the inaccuracy of the computer's word count does not result from a malfunction of the computer itself
C) it would be possible to modify the computer so that it counted words more accurately
D) a careful count by the copy editor is unlikely to be less accurate than the computer's count
E) the accuracy of the computer's word count is not dependent on the length of the article that it is measuring

IMO, D is correct.

If we negate D, the conclusion is not hold.
Conclusion: computer provides word count inaccurate (because the resulting count differed from the count the copy editor gave)
Assumption: the copy editor is unlikely to be less accurate than the computer's count
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08 May 2013, 10:08
D is correct..

Reasoning: careful counting by most reliable copy editor produces an accurate measure to compare against any other counting source.

The editor's reasoning relies on which of the following assumptions?
A) the criteria that the computer uses in determining what constitutes a single word differ from the criteria that the copy editor uses

- "editor could say that we already know that fact and even after the final calculation, there is a diffference - such as one thermometer can give a reading in celsius while other in farenheit , each one will be considered correct in reation to each other as long as C to F conversion or vice versa equates to same value."

B) the inaccuracy of the computer's word count does not result from a malfunction of the computer itself

"editor will say , i dont care what is producing this inaccurate count from the computer , but i do know that it is producing inaccurate count and the reason could be 'malfunction of the computer or not "

Negating the statement -
the inaccuracy of the computer's word count results from the malfunction of the computer itself" - doesn't effect the argument - "editor could say - i knew that , i have believed it that was the reason"

so this statement is not necessarily true as it can go either way

C) it would be possible to modify the computer so that it counted words more accurately

"irrelevant - the point in question is whether computer counts accurately or not"

D) a careful count by the copy editor is unlikely to be less accurate than the computer's count

negate this -
"a careful count by the copy editor is unlikely to be as accurate as or more than the computer's count"

This makes the argument fall apart because copy editor is no longer reliable source for comparing accuracy - Hence correct

E) the accuracy of the computer's word count is not dependent on the length of the article that it is being measured

"editor would say - we dont care about what the computer's word count depends on,but we do care that it gives us correct counts.It may take into consideration whatever parameters it has to take to do so"
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Can some one explain why A is incorrect.

I do get D as answer but cannot find any reason to discard A.

Conclusion is the word count provided by comp is incorrect as the editor is getting a different count.

(A)the criteria that the computer uses in determining what constitutes a single word differ from the criteria that the copy editor uses

Upon negation, the statement becomes:
The criteria that comp uses in determining what constitutes a single word DOES NOT differ from the criteria that the copy editor uses.

this means that whatever comp is counting, is equal to what copy editor counts. therefore, no discrepancy.
This attacks the conclusion

however i also feel its out of scope as the argument is not talking anywhere about the method but as its assumption i can assume to attack the conclusion.

Pl explain where i am going wrong.
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30 May 2016, 01:43
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Can some one explain why A is incorrect.

I do get D as answer but cannot find any reason to discard A.

Conclusion is the word count provided by comp is incorrect as the editor is getting a different count.

(A)the criteria that the computer uses in determining what constitutes a single word differ from the criteria that the copy editor uses

Upon negation, the statement becomes:
The criteria that comp uses in determining what constitutes a single word DOES NOT differ from the criteria that the copy editor uses.

this means that whatever comp is counting, is equal to what copy editor counts. therefore, no discrepancy.
This attacks the conclusion

however i also feel its out of scope as the argument is not talking anywhere about the method but as its assumption i can assume to attack the conclusion.

Pl explain where i am going wrong.

Hi Shail, A is just opposite of one of the assumptions

The author assumes that both computer and copy-writer are using the same criteria. That's why he says the computer is less accurate because the word count is different from the copy-writer's. Had this been the opposite, it would have been the perfect answer.
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Conclusion - There is good reason to believe that count given by computer is wrong.
Premise - Count given by computer is different from that given by reliable copy editor.

Here argument is saying that out of two values A and B, A is wrong because A differs from B.
This can be concluded only when B is right. If B is also wrong, what is the ground on basis of which, we can say that A is wrong?
Hence option D perfectly fits and bridges the gap between Premise and conclusion:-

Premise - Count given by computer is different from that given by reliable copy editor.
Assumption - And count given by copy editor is correct.
Conclusion - Therefor there is good reason to believe that count given by computer is wrong.

Other options:-
A - This talks about criteria but we are concerned with the final count of both computer and copy editor. Even if criteria used by both is same, this still doesn't make any difference because premise mentions that final result is different for both and we cannot question the premise.

B - This talks about reason for inaccuracy of computer. But are we concerned about that? Even if reason of inaccuracy of computer was not malfunction but something else, what difference does it make to the final count? Still the output is wrong and no difference in that.

C - Again irrelevant. We are not concerned with what is possible to do. Even if we negate this option, it will have no effect on conclusion.

E - Again we are not concerned about the factors on which accuracy of computer depends. Negating this option as well will not have any effect on conclusion.
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29 Nov 2016, 14:07
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Hi,
I will try to explain .
Editor: We use the computer to check the length of our articles, but surprisingly there is good reason to believe that the word count it provides is inaccurate. Several times when an article's words were carefully counted by our most reliable copy editor, the resulting count differed from the count the computer gave

The editor's reasoning relies on which of the following assumptions?
A) the criteria that the computer uses in determining what constitutes a single word differ from the criteria that the copy editor uses. ISWAT answer choice

Conclusion : Computer gives inaccurate count.

Here , for this conclusion to be true author assumes atleast below things :
1. Editor and Computer should consider the same criteria for counting word , if not the conclusion will be false. Lets say if counting criteria is different for both computer and editor , computer could not have been at fault. Since criteria is different obviously count will not match.
2. Editor is more accurate in counting than Computer.

these 2 assumptions are required . So , if you see option A it is opposite of our assumptions 1 .

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10 Jul 2017, 17:29
The conclusion is that the copy editor is more reliable in counting words than the computer.

If you negate every answer, answer D destroys the conclusion the most.
A careful count by the copy editor is likely to be less accurate than the computer's count - This destroys the conclusion that the copy editor is reliable.
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04 Feb 2019, 02:15
Finding hard to understand
is the conclusion "computer word count is inaccurate"

confusion between b,d,e

option B: what if computer malfunction was the reason for incorrect word count.
option E: what if the accuracy depends on the length of the article.

isn't the author assuming the above choices?

I do understand that the author is assuming the copy editor is accurate.

But I don't understand how does option D convinces the same meaning

A careful count by the editor is * unlikely to be less accurate* than computer's count.

is this statement telling the editor is more accurate than computer's count?
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09 Feb 2019, 21:08
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In the above example though i chose D , by POE , i still have doubt.

" carefully counted by our most reliable copy editor" ...what i felt is that if the argument is saying that it is the "most reliable person" who is doing the job , then isnt this implicitly stating that the editor is better than the computer??
The reason for me to have this doubt lies in a similar OG problem where the author says that the book was "convincingly" bla bla bla... in that problem we did not challenge the author by saying that what a book constitues difers according o various parameters becasue the author says that the bresult was "convinving" ... Why isnt the same logic applicale here??
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09 Feb 2019, 21:26
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In the above example though i chose D , by POE , i still have doubt.

" carefully counted by our most reliable copy editor" ...what i felt is that if the argument is saying that it is the "most reliable person" who is doing the job , then isnt this implicitly stating that the editor is better than the computer??
The reason for me to have this doubt lies in a similar OG problem where the author says that the book was "convincingly" bla bla bla... in that problem we did not challenge the author by saying that what a book constitues difers according o various parameters becasue the author says that the bresult was "convinving" ... Why isnt the same logic applicale here??

Hi..
The logic here is correct..
We are looking for assumption here..
Quote:
The para talks of RELIABLE copy editor and counting. The choice then connects copy editor with correct counting..

Now, 'Reliable copy editor' is part of 'copy editor' at large, so when we say that copy editors are good, it clearly implies that reliable editor are good. It could rather mean even better.

But now let us twist the wordings..
Quote:
The para talks of copy editor and counting. The choice then connects RELIABLE copy editor with correct counting..

Now, 'Reliable copy editor' does not mean all 'copy editor' , so when we say that reliable copy editors are good, it can mean the copy editors in question can be good or even bad.
Here this will not fit in as an assumption.

I do not know the specific question you are talking about, but I am sure the logic in that must be the one we are talking of in second case.
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10 Feb 2019, 00:02
shail2509 wrote:
Can some one explain why A is incorrect.

I do get D as answer but cannot find any reason to discard A.

Conclusion is the word count provided by comp is incorrect as the editor is getting a different count.

(A)the criteria that the computer uses in determining what constitutes a single word differ from the criteria that the copy editor uses

Upon negation, the statement becomes:
The criteria that comp uses in determining what constitutes a single word DOES NOT differ from the criteria that the copy editor uses.

this means that whatever comp is counting, is equal to what copy editor counts. therefore, no discrepancy.
This attacks the conclusion

however i also feel its out of scope as the argument is not talking anywhere about the method but as its assumption i can assume to attack the conclusion.

Pl explain where i am going wrong.

I guess even if they use different criteria there is a possibility they will end up the same word count.
So A is wrong.

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Finding hard to understand
is the conclusion "computer word count is inaccurate"

confusion between b,d,e

option B: what if computer malfunction was the reason for incorrect word count.
option E: what if the accuracy depends on the length of the article.

isn't the author assuming the above choices?

I do understand that the author is assuming the copy editor is accurate.

But I don't understand how does option D convinces the same meaning

A careful count by the editor is * unlikely to be less accurate* than computer's count.

is this statement telling the editor is more accurate than computer's count?

You've correctly identified the editor's conclusion: "the word count [the computer] provides is inaccurate."

You've also correctly identified the editor's reasoning behind this conclusion: "Several times when an article's words were carefully counted by our most reliable copy editor, the resulting count differed from the count the computer gave."

Where your analysis goes wrong is in applying this information to the question: "The editor's reasoning relies on which of the following assumptions?"

We are not tasked with finding a reason why the editor believes the computer is less accurate than the copy editor. Instead, we are looking for an assumption that links the evidence (that the two counts differed) to the conclusion (that the computer's word count is inaccurate).

Let's go through the answer choices in question:
Quote:
(B) the inaccuracy of the computer's word count does not result from a malfunction of the computer itself

The editor could reach his/her conclusion whether the inaccuracy of the computer's count was due to a malfunction of the computer, or due to some other reason. The relevant question is not what caused the computer's inaccurate count, but why the difference in the two counts logically leads to the conclusion that the computer's count was inaccurate. (B) is out.

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(D) a careful count by the copy editor is unlikely to be less accurate than the computer's count

If the copy editor's count is "unlikely to be less accurate" than the computer's count, then it is likely to be as accurate or more accurate than the computer's count. This statement is necessary in order for the editor to reach his/her conclusion, because it means that the difference between the two counts is likely due to the computer's count being inaccurate. Therefore, this is an assumption on which the argument depends. (D) is the correct answer.

Quote:
(E) the accuracy of the computer's word count is not dependent on the length of the article that it is measuring

Again, we need to find an answer choice that shows that the difference between the two counts is due to the inaccuracy of the computer's count. Like with answer (B), this choice provides a possible explanation for why the computer is less accurate in some cases -- but this is not the question we need to answer. Eliminate (E).

I hope this helps!
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The argument is that the computer word count is inaccurate.
This is based on the fact that the copy editor counted the words and found differences between the computer word count and his or her word count.

I'll only go through A and D.

A - NO. The argument would assume the opposite. If the criteria were different then how can the argument even be made?

Slot it in to see this:
- The criteria used to count words on the computer are different from what the copy writer used. Therefore the computer word count is inaccurate.
- The criteria used to count words on the computer are not different from what the copy writer used. Therefore the computer word count is inaccurate.

If the criteria are NOT different, then the copy writer will be counting to the same constraints, so we can conclude that the copy writer reliably counted the words.

D nails this accuracy issue.
IF a careful count by the copy editor is unlikely to be less accurate than the computer's count THEN we could reliably conclude that any difference in word count could be due to the inaccuracies of the computer.
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