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ESCP vs EMLYON [#permalink] New post   03 Mar 2022, 01:02
Hi everyone,

I recently got admit from both escp and emlyon mim programs. I am confused between the two and which one to choose?

My main concern is fees which is very high for escp and somewhat 12000 euro less for emlyon after scholarship.

I have to take a student loan for both, therefore, wanted to know my best option to get a decent job in consulting or investment banking and repay my loan as soon as possible.

Whether I should take admit to escp and assure high paying job or take less loan and admit to emlyon will I be able to get at par with escp graduate in terms of monetary and other aspects.


Also, I have the option to attend university bocconi for international management where I can get 100% need-based scholarship but it is in Italy. (should I wait for this admit)

P.S. I am engineer male from India having zero knowledge of french yet but planning to take language lessons before joining any of the schools and I want to work in Europe after my degree.

It will be great help if someone can help me with an honest and wise opinion.
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Re: ESCP vs EMLYON [#permalink] New post   03 Mar 2022, 03:21
I think I'm missing something besides you are Indian Engineer who want to enter IB via Masters in Management in ESCP? Dots doesn't connect well my friend.

Unless you're US/EU born Indian, you'll have less than 5% breaking into IB with your description in EU. Maybe up to 30% if you're okay taking undergraduate level jobs.

Please provide more information.

1. what's your pre-MBA experience, besides Engineering background?
2. what program in those schools did you get accepted? Masters in management, or MBA in International Management?
3. anything to add on?
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Re: ESCP vs EMLYON [#permalink] New post   03 Mar 2022, 03:48
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Hi rohan41 , as an Indian who has studied and worked in France, I hope I can guide you in making the right call.

As mentioned in the previous comment, yes it is indeed very difficult to make the transition into IB as an international applicant/ employee in Europe. To add to that, France is somewhat stringent on language requirements and therefore, if you look for a job in France you would have to be fluent in French (your interviews and case studies will also be conducted in French). I see consulting opportunities in English speaking geographies as a better match for you.

Outside of France, you would be able to apply to language lenient geographies in Europe such as the UK, Amsterdam and Germany. However you may find yourself facing limited job opportunities if you do not network aggressively and because of the limited reach of these MiM programs outside of France.

In this scenario, opting for a program that gives you maximum scholarship would be a smart move.

Best wishes

Aanchal Sahni


rohan41 wrote:
Hi everyone,

I recently got admit from both escp and emlyon mim programs. I am confused between the two and which one to choose?

My main concern is fees which is very high for escp and somewhat 12000 euro less for emlyon after scholarship.

I have to take a student loan for both, therefore, wanted to know my best option to get a decent job in consulting or investment banking and repay my loan as soon as possible.

Whether I should take admit to escp and assure high paying job or take less loan and admit to emlyon will I be able to get at par with escp graduate in terms of monetary and other aspects.


Also, I have the option to attend university bocconi for international management where I can get 100% need-based scholarship but it is in Italy. (should I wait for this admit)

P.S. I am engineer male from India having zero knowledge of french yet but planning to take language lessons before joining any of the schools and I want to work in Europe after my degree.

It will be great help if someone can help me with an honest and wise opinion.
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Re: ESCP vs EMLYON [#permalink] New post   03 Mar 2022, 04:10
massan wrote:
I think I'm missing something besides you are Indian Engineer who want to enter IB via Masters in Management in ESCP? Dots doesn't connect well my friend.

Unless you're US/EU born Indian, you'll have less than 5% breaking into IB with your description in EU. Maybe up to 30% if you're okay taking undergraduate level jobs.

Please provide more information.

1. what's your pre-MBA experience, besides Engineering background?
2. what program in those schools did you get accepted? Masters in management, or MBA in International Management?
3. anything to add on?



1. I have worked as Systems Egineer for about 2 years at TCS.
2. I got accepted to Masters in management programs
3. My overall experience is related to software development only

If it is this much difficult to break into these roles then what are the roles that I can hope after graduating from the same?
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Re: ESCP vs EMLYON [#permalink] New post   03 Mar 2022, 04:15
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Hi @rohan41, as an Indian who has studied and worked in France, I hope I can guide you in making the right call.

As mentioned in the previous comment, yes it is indeed very difficult to make the transition into IB as an international applicant/ employee in Europe. To add to that, France is somewhat stringent on language requirements and therefore, if you look for a job in France you would have to be fluent in French (your interviews and case studies will also be conducted in French). I see consulting opportunities in English speaking geographies as a better match for you.

Outside of France, you would be able to apply to language lenient geographies in Europe such as the UK, Amsterdam and Germany. However you may find yourself facing limited job opportunities if you do not network aggressively and because of the limited reach of these MiM programs outside of France.

In this scenario, opting for a program that gives you maximum scholarship would be a smart move.

Best wishes

Aanchal Sahni




Thanks for your response.

If I can't get into these roles then what kind of roles will I be able to get after the degree?
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ESCP vs EMLYON [#permalink] New post   03 Mar 2022, 04:22
Hi rohan41 , depending on your prior experience and interests you may be able to get into business analyst or entry level roles in management in consulting or in startups. Wondering if you applied to HEC as they have a wider reach within Europe and globally.

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MBAGuide wrote:
Hi rohan41, as an Indian who has studied and worked in France, I hope I can guide you in making the right call.

As mentioned in the previous comment, yes it is indeed very difficult to make the transition into IB as an international applicant/ employee in Europe. To add to that, France is somewhat stringent on language requirements and therefore, if you look for a job in France you would have to be fluent in French (your interviews and case studies will also be conducted in French). I see consulting opportunities in English speaking geographies as a better match for you.

Outside of France, you would be able to apply to language lenient geographies in Europe such as the UK, Amsterdam and Germany. However you may find yourself facing limited job opportunities if you do not network aggressively and because of the limited reach of these MiM programs outside of France.

In this scenario, opting for a program that gives you maximum scholarship would be a smart move.

Best wishes

Aanchal Sahni




Thanks for your response.

If I can't get into these roles then what kind of roles will I be able to get after the degree?
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Re: ESCP vs EMLYON [#permalink] New post   03 Mar 2022, 20:48
Job reports are posted on their website. You can figure out which sectors and jobs are available for the programs there.
If you want to get into those roles you described, go get a job in those industries right now before you begin your class.
if you're asking for other roles, tech PM is definitely way to go from engineers.
What did alumni from those schools say about your job prospects?
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Re: ESCP vs EMLYON [#permalink] New post   03 Mar 2022, 23:55
massan wrote:
Job reports are posted on their website. You can figure out which sectors and jobs are available for the programs there.
If you want to get into those roles you described, go get a job in those industries right now before you begin your class.
if you're asking for other roles, tech PM is definitely way to go from engineers.
What did alumni from those schools say about your job prospects?


Job posted are similar for both schools and highlight most percentage into consulting and financing but I believe those must be local candidates.
But I am still not clear about the fact which school will provide me with better options.
If I am not able to get into consulting/Financing with ESCP then what advantages will it provide over EMLyon for other roles and can't I get those roles by studying in EMLyon?

If you guys can shed some light on that part and help me select one or lay down the facts in favor of one over others, that would be great.
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Re: ESCP vs EMLYON [#permalink] New post   04 Mar 2022, 00:03
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Hi , as an Indian who has studied and worked in France, I hope I can guide you in making the right call.

As mentioned in the previous comment, yes it is indeed very difficult to make the transition into IB as an international applicant/ employee in Europe. To add to that, France is somewhat stringent on language requirements and therefore, if you look for a job in France you would have to be fluent in French (your interviews and case studies will also be conducted in French). I see consulting opportunities in English speaking geographies as a better match for you.

Outside of France, you would be able to apply to language lenient geographies in Europe such as the UK, Amsterdam and Germany. However you may find yourself facing limited job opportunities if you do not network aggressively and because of the limited reach of these MiM programs outside of France.

In this scenario, opting for a program that gives you maximum scholarship would be a smart move.

Best wishes

Aanchal Sahni



Dear Aanchal,
I applied to HEC but wasn't able to convert it. You are suggesting that consulting or investment roles will be extremely difficult to crack being an outsider. So in your point of view which school will be the best option for maximum ROI for my case (CSE engineer with 1.6 years of experience as a software developer)

1. ESCP MIM - fees 46000 euro
2. EMLyon MIM - fees 333000 euro (after scholarship)
3. University Bocconi (international management) - fees 28000 euro ( can be 0 because of ISU need-based scholarship)

Please help me with your wise opinion.

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