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Even though only 5 percent of people living in Hutorsville own guns, the Hutorsville Police Department reported that 25 percent of those arrested for robberies in Hutorsville had guns. Clearly, a person who has a gun is more likely to commit robbery regularly than a person who does not have a gun.

The conclusion drawn above depends on which of the following assumptions?
(A)People who have guns are more likely to rob someone rather than to murder.
(B)People who were arrested for robbery were more likely to commit robberies regularly than people who were not arrested.
(C)People who have guns are less likely to be arrested while committing a robbery.
(D)Many people who were arrested for robbery have been arrested before.
(E)reports in other towns are very different from the report of the Hutorsville Police Department.


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Originally posted by guerrero25 on 11 Aug 2013, 05:21.
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guerrero25 wrote:
Even though only 5 percent of people living in Hutorsville own guns, the Hutorsville Police Department reported that 25 percent of those arrested for robberies in Hutorsville had guns. Clearly, a person who has a gun is more likely to commit robbery regularly than a person who does not have a gun.

The conclusion drawn above depends on which of the following assumptions?
(A)People who have guns are more likely to rob someone rather than to murder.
(B)People who were arrested for robbery were more likely to commit robberies regularly than people who were not arrested.
(C)People who have guns are less likely to be arrested while committing a robbery.
(D)Many people who were arrested for robbery have been arrested before.
(E)reports in other towns are very different from the report of the Hutorsville Police Department.


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IMO B
just a rephrase of official question.
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Can experts pleas explain this one?
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guerrero25 wrote:
Even though only 5 percent of people living in Hutorsville own guns, the Hutorsville Police Department reported that 25 percent of those arrested for robberies in Hutorsville had guns. Clearly, a person who has a gun is more likely to commit robbery regularly than a person who does not have a gun.

The conclusion drawn above depends on which of the following assumptions?
(A)People who have guns are more likely to rob someone rather than to murder.
(B)People who were arrested for robbery were more likely to commit robberies regularly than people who were not arrested.
(C)People who have guns are less likely to be arrested while committing a robbery.
(D)Many people who were arrested for robbery have been arrested before.
(E)reports in other towns are very different from the report of the Hutorsville Police Department.


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IMO B
just a rephrase of official question.
please refer for explanation
a-recent-report-determined-that-although-only-three-percent-1378.html#p6519


This is not a rephrase.For a rephrase the solution should have option D rephrased as:
D. Many Guns were reused as a murder weapon in the cases with arrests.
Many guns were resused does not imply that the murderers are the same & hence this is not as supportive an assumption as B.

For the present question both B & D are correct and in fact imply a similar meaning
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blueseas wrote:
guerrero25 wrote:
Even though only 5 percent of people living in Hutorsville own guns, the Hutorsville Police Department reported that 25 percent of those arrested for robberies in Hutorsville had guns. Clearly, a person who has a gun is more likely to commit robbery regularly than a person who does not have a gun.

The conclusion drawn above depends on which of the following assumptions?
(A)People who have guns are more likely to rob someone rather than to murder.
(B)People who were arrested for robbery were more likely to commit robberies regularly than people who were not arrested.
(C)People who have guns are less likely to be arrested while committing a robbery.
(D)Many people who were arrested for robbery have been arrested before.
(E)reports in other towns are very different from the report of the Hutorsville Police Department.


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IMO B
just a rephrase of official question.
please refer for explanation
a-recent-report-determined-that-although-only-three-percent-1378.html#p6519


This is not a rephrase.For a rephrase the solution should have option D rephrased as:
D. Many Guns were reused as a murder weapon in the cases with arrests.
Many guns were resused does not imply that the murderers are the same & hence this is not as supportive an assumption as B.

For the present question both B & D are correct and in fact imply a similar meaning


Yes even I selected D for this problem, both B and D are contenders.

This is a poor attempt to copy an official problem.

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I was not sure if it is B or D... I've choosen D.... can someone please explain it??
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D sounds like a premise. An assumption cannot be a premise. Assumption should be a link between premise and conclusion.
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D sounds like a premise. An assumption cannot be a premise. Assumption should be a link between premise and conclusion.


Let me give it a try:

Even though only 5 percent of people living in Hutorsville own guns, the Hutorsville Police Department reported that 25 percent of those arrested for robberies in Hutorsville had guns. Clearly, a person who has a gun is more likely to commit robbery regularly than a person who does not have a gun.

Lets create a scenario:

In a town of population 100, 5 person own guns. Tom, Dick, Harry, John, and Jeff.

Lets say 4 robbers arrested, one of them was Tom and others were from rest of the population M1, M2,M3.
Above scenario satisfies the 25% fact.

But conclusion says : a person who has a gun is more likely to commit robbery regularly than a person who does not have a gun.

Thus we can discard above mentioned scenario... bcz author assumes involvement of a person who has gun in different robberies.

Another Scenario:
Lets say 100 robberies committed, in 25 robberies Tom, Dick, Harry, John, and Jeff were arrested. 5 robberies committed by each of them.


Lets us analyze option B and D.

(B)People who were arrested for robbery were more likely to commit robberies regularly than people who were not arrested.

We can not tell about non gun holders whether they were also involve in regular crime... may be M1,M2,M3...M75 arrested only once in 75 arrests.
But we can surely say that gun holders regularly committed robbery and were arrested in 25 cases.


(D)Many people who were arrested for robbery have been arrested before.
Now again it is supporting the conclusion that gun holders regularly committed crime.. also option D is not stated in argument under any premise.

"Even though only 5 percent of people living in Hutorsville own guns, the Hutorsville Police Department reported that 25 percent of those arrested for robberies in Hutorsville had guns."

In this question option D and B both are supporting the conclusion.

Further if you refer the similar OG problem on vehicles equipped with radar, you should be able to see the difference in choice B and D.
Choice B is talking about drivers, and choice D is talking about vehicles.
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The reason to reject option D is that it fails negation test.
"Many people......" ---- Negation ----> "Some people...."
Even if SOME people were arrested again, the conclusion that "gun owners are more likely to commit robbery" holds. "More likely" is stating the probability, which will be higher even if some people get re-arrested.
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New post 07 Jul 2015, 07:22
B is the correct choice..

P1 5 percent of people living in Hutorsville own guns
P2 the Hutorsville Police Department reported that 25 percent of those arrested for robberies in Hutorsville had guns

Conclusion: a person who has a gun is more likely to commit robbery regularly than a person who does not have a gun.

Now if the choice D would have stated that "People who have been arrested have never been arrested before" it would be correct. Applying negation test to this statement " People who have been arrested have been arrested before" would have broken the conclusion. But the choice D is quite different and hence cannot be the correct answer as it would not pass the negation test.

Hope this solves the discrepancy surrounding between choices B and D.
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This question is rough.. I chose D at the beginning, but I missed the word REGULARLY in the conclusion.
Anyway, my analysis is below.

Analysis structure
Conc: Clearly, a person who has a gun is more likely to commit robbery regularly than a person who does not have a gun.
P1: Police reported: 25% of those arrested for robberies in Hutorsville had guns.
Counter P: Even though only 5 % of people living in Hutorsville own guns.

Pre-thinking
So we know that just 5% of people own guns in H, but 25% of those arrested for robbery own gun. The author concludes then that a person who has a gun is more likely to commit robbery REGULARLY (frequency) than a person who don't have one.
So we need to find a link between the % of people arrested who commit robbery with a gun and the incidence of committing a robbery.
The author can only make that conclusion if he assumes that people who were arrested for committing robbery are more likely to do so more regularly than people who were not arrested. The likelihood that the 25% of people arrested for committing robbery with a gun would account for that 5% of population who own a gun is increased and so is the incidence to commit a crime.

Answer choice analysis
(A)People who have guns are more likely to rob someone rather than to murder. OFS
Comparison of the likelihood of committing different types of crime is not in discussion.


(B)People who were arrested for robbery were more likely to commit robberies regularly than people who were not arrested. Correct
Aligned with pre-thinking. If negated (People who were arrested for robbery were as likely as or less likely to commit robberies regularly than people who were not arrested) the conclusion is weaken.


(C)People who have guns are less likely to be arrested while committing a robbery. Irrelevant
This option talks about the likelihood of been arrested of people who own a gun. The argument is concern about the likelihood of committing a robbery.


(D)Many people who were arrested for robbery have been arrested before. Incorrect
This option could be tricky, but reading carefully: what if many (60%) of those arrested for robbery accounts for the ones who don't own a gun?
Conclusion is not supported. If negated, it doesn't necessarily weaken the conclusion.

(E)reports in other towns are very different from the report of the Hutorsville Police Department. OFS
We are not concern about any comparison related to reports in different towns.


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I chose B because:

If people who were arrested for robbery were less likely to commit robberies regularly than people who were not arrested, it wouldn't matter if they owned a gun or not because they would more than likely not be interested in going out and robbing. This is the opposite of what the H. Police Dept states. Thus, correct.
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Even though only 5 percent of people living in Hutorsville own guns, the Hutorsville Police Department reported that 25 percent of those arrested for robberies in Hutorsville had guns. Clearly, a person who has a gun is more likely to commit robbery regularly than a person who does not have a gun.

The conclusion drawn above depends on which of the following assumptions?
(A)People who have guns are more likely to rob someone rather than to murder.
(B)People who were arrested for robbery were more likely to commit robberies regularly than people who were not arrested.
(C)People who have guns are less likely to be arrested while committing a robbery.
(D)Many people who were arrested for robbery have been arrested before.
(E)reports in other towns are very different from the report of the Hutorsville Police Department.
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