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# I've googled this multiple times and it seems like there is

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21 Jul 2009, 11:55
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I've googled this multiple times and it seems like there is never a clear solution.

What's the difference between "so as to" , "in order to" , and "so that [he could]"

e.g.

I am speaking softly so as to not disturb you.
I am speaking softly in order to not disturb you.
I am speaking softly so that I will not disturb you.

Are the three meanings the same?

Another example (from OG 11)

King Henry VIII sought to have his marriage annulled so as to marry Anne Boleyn.
vs.
King Henry VIII sought to have his marriage annulled so that he could marry Anne Boleyn.

Aren't the two mentioned above exactly the same as:
King Henry VIII sought to have his marriage annulled in order to marry Anne Boleyn.

I am a native speaker and find this confusing, so I don't think I'm the only one confused by this. If anyone can shed some light, muchas gracias!

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21 Jul 2009, 11:58
so as to is wrong
so adj as to verb is correct

I am speaking softly so as to not disturb you.
this is not correct
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21 Jul 2009, 12:31
It's not that simple. Consider this example:

The Emperor Augustus, it appears, commissioned an idealized sculptured portrait, the features of which are so unrealistic that they have constituted what one scholar calls an “artificial face”

The official answer is: so unrealistic as to constitute
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21 Jul 2009, 12:45
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It's not that simple. Consider this example:

The Emperor Augustus, it appears, commissioned an idealized sculptured portrait, the features of which are so unrealistic that they have constituted what one scholar calls an “artificial face”

The official answer is: so unrealistic as to constitute

I said the same

Quote:
so as to is wrong
so adj as to verb is correct

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21 Jul 2009, 16:45
Correct idioms are
So X as to Y
So X that Y

In this sentence

The Emperor Augustus, it appears, commissioned an idealized sculptured portrait, the features of which are so unrealistic that they have constituted what one scholar calls an “artificial face”

There is a pronoun error - what is "they" referring ?

So unrealistic as to constitute removes pronoun error

hope this helps:)
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22 Jul 2009, 10:05
From my notes (unfortunately can't remember what was the resource):
"so x that y" answers the question "Why? What is the purpose?"
"so x as to y" answers the question "Why do you do this in this way?"

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