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If a, b, c, d, and e are integers and cde = 0, is d = 0 ?

(1) abc = 30
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cde = 0 i.e AT-LEAST one of c, d, ande is ZERO



Question: Is d = ?

STatement 1: abc = 30

i.e. none of a, b and c are zero
but d may be zero or e may be zero hence

NOT SUFFICIENT

Statement 2: ace = 0

i.e. atleast one of a, e and c is zero
but d and e both may be zero or e may be zero hence

NOT SUFFICIENT

Combining the statements
abc = 30 i.e. a, b and c are non-zero
ace = 0 i.e. atleast one of a, c and e is zero
but since we know from statement 1 that a nd c are non zero therefore
e = 0
now, cde = 0
i.e. e = o but d may be non zero
Also, e = 0 but d as well may be zero hence

NOT SUFFICIENT

Answer: Option E
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If: cde = 0
=> at least one of them is 0.

St. 1:
abc = 30
=> none of them is 0
=> for cde to be 0,
d =0, or e=0, or both d and e are 0

=> St. 1 is insufficient.

St.2:
ace = 0
=> atleast one of them is 0.

If a = 0, and c, d non zero
=> d = 0

But, if, any one of c , e is 0
=> d may or may not be 0

=> St. 2 is insufficient

Considering st 1 and st 2

From 1
=> a is not 0
And, c is not 0

=> e is 0 ( since ace = 0)

=> cde = 0
But d may or may not be 0

=> Both together are insufficient.

=> Answer: E

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Given, cde = 0, => (1) any of the 3 can be zero, (2) more than one can be zero.

ST1: abc = 30, => a,b,c != 0
d or e can be zero. Not sufficient.

ST2: ace = 0, => (1) any of the 3 can be zero, (2) more than one can be zero.
if c or e is 0 , then d may or mayn't be 0. Not sufficient.

1+2: a and c are not 0 => e = 0. But still we can't be sure if d is 0 or not. Not sufficient.

Ans: E
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If a, b, c, d, and e are integers and cde = 0, is d = 0 ? (1) abc = 3 Updated on: 12 Jun 2020, 07:11
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Given : cde = 0,
To find: d = 0 ?

(1) abc = 30
We have 3 variables and zero constraint to determine value(insufficient)

(2) ace = 0
Again, We have no constraint to determine 3 variables value(insufficient)

Together : ABC=30
ACE = 0
AC = 30/B ------(1)
AC = 0/E --------(2)
Equating both.
30/B = 0/E
B = 0 = E
(Insufficient)

Answer is E

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Given : cde = 0,
To find: d = 0 ?

(1) abc = 30
We have 3 variables and zero constraint to determine value(insufficient)

(2) ace = 0
Again, We have no constraint to determine 3 variables value(insufficient)

Together : ABC=30
ACE = 0
AC = 30/C ------(1)
AC = 0/E --------(2)
Equating both.
30/C = 0/E
C = 0 = E
(Insufficient)

Answer is E

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Hi yashikaaggarwal,

Minor slip there I guess in equation (1). It should be B.
From ST1, we obtain 'c' not equal to 0. ST1 and ST2 together result in only 'e' equal to 0.

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Given : cde = 0,
To find: d = 0 ?

(1) abc = 30
We have 3 variables and zero constraint to determine value(insufficient)

(2) ace = 0
Again, We have no constraint to determine 3 variables value(insufficient)

Together : ABC=30
ACE = 0
AC = 30/C ------(1)
AC = 0/E --------(2)
Equating both.
30/C = 0/E
C = 0 = E
(Insufficient)

Answer is E

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Hi yashikaaggarwal,

Minor slip there I guess in equation (1). It should be B.
From ST1, we obtain 'c' not equal to 0. ST1 and ST2 together result in only 'e' equal to 0.

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If a, b, c, d, and e are integers and cde = 0, is d = 0 ?

(1) abc = 30
(2) ace = 0


Solution


Step 1: Analyse Question Stem


    • a, b, c, d, and e are integers.
    • c*d*e = 0 ………Eq.(i)
    • We need to find out whether d = 0 or not.

Step 2: Analyse Statements Independently (And eliminate options) – AD/BCE


Statement 1: abc = 30
    • Since a*b*c ≠ 0
      o So, we can say that none of a, b, and c are equal to zero
    • However, we still don’t know about e.
      o If e = 0, irrespective of d = 0 or d ≠ 0, c*d*e = 0
So, we cannot tell for sure whether d = 0 or not.
Hence, statement 1 is NOT sufficient and we can eliminate answer Options A and D.

Statement 2: ace = 0
    • According to this statement a*c*e = 0
      o It means at least one of a, c, and e is 0.
    • Now, if a = 0 and c ≠0 and e ≠0,
      o Then from Eq.(i) we can say that d = 0
    • However, if c = 0 or e = 0,
      o Then from Eq.(i) d may be or may not be 0.
We are getting contradictory results here.
Hence, statement 2 is also NOT sufficient and we can eliminate answer Option B.

Step 3: Analyse Statements by combining.


From statement 1: a≠0 and c≠0
From statement 2: At least one of a, c, and e is 0.
On combining both we get,
    • e = 0
    • However, still we cannot decide whether d = 0 or not.
      o Because d may be 0 or may not be 0, in both the cases c*d*e = 0
Thus, the correct answer is Option E.
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a,b,c,d,e are integers
c*d*e = 0
d = 0?

Statement 1: abc= 30
it means whatever be the value of a,b & c but its sure that a,b & c are not equal to "zero"
Not Sufficient

Statement 2: ace = 0
It tells that "a" or "c" or "e" is equal to "zero" or more than one terms equal to "zero"
Nothing tells about "d"
Not Sufficient

Statement 1 & Statement 2:
From 1) "a" & "c" not equal to "zero"
From 2) e= 0
Still not sure about "d" , it may be "0" or not.
Not Sufficient

Answer :E
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If a, b, c, d, and e are integers and cde = 0, is d = 0 ?

(1) abc = 30

d or e can be 0
Not sufficient


(2) ace = 0
 a ,d, c or e can be zero
Not sufficient


Combining 1 and 2

cde=0
ace = 0
abc=30
still D or E can be zero .
Not sufficient

Hence ans is E
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If a, b, c, d, and e are integers and cde = 0, is d = 0 ?

(1) abc = 30
(2) ace = 0

Now \(cde=0\), so at least one of c, d and e is 0.

We have to answer - 'Whether d=0?'

If we can prove, c and e are not 0, d will be 0.

(1) abc = 30
So, we can say for sure that none of a, b or c is 0, as otherwise abc would be 0.
Thus \(c\neq{0}\), but what about e??
If \(e\neq{0}\), then d=0.
If e=0, d may or may not be 0.

(2) ace = 0
Now c or e could be 0 so d may or may not be 0.

Combined.
\(c\neq{0}\), but e=0.
So d may or may not be 0, as e=0 will make cde=0

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If a, b, c, d, and e are integers and cde = 0, is d = 0 ?

(1) abc = 30
(2) ace = 0


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cde = 0 i.e AT-LEAST one of c, d, ande is ZERO



Question: Is d = ?

STatement 1: abc = 30

i.e. none of a, b and c are zero
but d may be zero or e may be zero hence

NOT SUFFICIENT

Statement 2: ace = 0

i.e. atleast one of a, e and c is zero
but d and e both may be zero or e may be zero hence

NOT SUFFICIENT

Combining the statements
abc = 30 i.e. a, b and c are non-zero
ace = 0 i.e. atleast one of a, c and e is zero
but since we know from statement 1 that a nd c are non zero therefore
e = 0
now, cde = 0
i.e. e = o but d may be non zero
Also, e = 0 but d as well may be zero hence

NOT SUFFICIENT

Answer: Option E

I ended up selecting "C" as I thought any of these integers cannot be the same. How do you know when to consider this and when not to?
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