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It is well known in the supermarket industry that how items are placed

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New post 19 Feb 2016, 08:52
A few other people have mentioned it, but I still haven't seen it addressed - this looks like a flawed question.

Choice A is correct, except that it's not parallel.
Choice E is correct, except that it's not passive. I've seen several people cite this as a point in E's favor, but even GMAT grammar doesn't blindly dictate that "active is better than passive". It depends on who is doing the action. Here, inventory doesn't turn over on it's own. The boxes don't walk off the shelves so the part "the inventory turns over" is technically wrong. "How frequently the inventory is turned over can be" would be correct.

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Dalinar wrote:
I completely agree; D is irredeemably wrong.
What you say is correct is the same as what I said: "how frequently the inventory is turned over".

However, E puts it in the active voice "the inventory turns over", meaning the inventory is moving itself on and off the shelf. I understand GMAT accepts E as the best answer. They apparently prefer errors in voice (E) over errors in parallelism (A).

I'm just confirming, this is an error in voice? Or, is there an idiomatic thing where we can say the inventory "turns" when it's really being acted on rather than acting?


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Here the idiom turn over (used in active voice) means to be replaced by something of the same kind. This is an idiomatic usage - changing to passive voice no longer retains its meaning.

The idiom turn over may be used to express quite a few other meanings - in most of these cases changing to passive voice is acceptable:
to start: The engine turned over.... The engine was turned over.
to earn revenue: The company turns over 6 billion dollars ...... 6 billions dollars are turned over by the company.

Although some think that GMAC prefers active to passive, I cannot recollect coming across any example which is wrong solely because of use of passive.
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New post 20 Aug 2017, 08:02
even after reviewing this question so many times, I still have not understood why A is incorrect. 'how items are placed on shelves' and 'the frequency of inventory turnovers' can be perfectly parallel according to me.

Experts please advise why A is wrong.
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even after reviewing this question so many times, I still have not understood why A is incorrect. 'how items are placed on shelves' and 'the frequency of inventory turnovers' can be perfectly parallel according to me.

Experts please advise why A is wrong.


In Option A, "how items are placed" is a clause whereas "the frequency of inventory turnovers" is a noun phrase. A noun/ noun phrase would not ideally be used in parallel with a clause.
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It is well known in the supermarket industry that how items are placed on shelves and the frequency of inventory turnovers can be crucial to profits.


(A) the frequency of inventory turnovers can be
(B) the frequency of inventory turnovers is often
(C) the frequency with which the inventory turns over is often
(D) how frequently is the inventory turned over are often
(E) how frequently the inventory turns over can be



HI Egmat/Daagh/Vercules/Experts,

Can you please explain why is E chosen over D?
This is probably the first question where I have come across this rule - sequencing/arrangement of noun vs verb, mattering(is this a wrong word?) in parallelism.

Anyhow, I ended up choosing D - because I saw both
- (how) items are placed, and
- (how frequently) is the inventory turned over

as PASSIVE.

Please explain where I am wrong. And it would be great if you can point me other such examples where N-V order matters.

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I totally agree.. and ı don't get how the OA uses an active and a passive clause together and keeps the parallelism.
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cumulonimbus wrote:
grad_mba wrote:
445)
It is well known in the supermarket industry that how items are placed on shelves and the frequency of inventory turnovers can be crucial to profits.


(A) the frequency of inventory turnovers can be
(B) the frequency of inventory turnovers is often
(C) the frequency with which the inventory turns over is often
(D) how frequently is the inventory turned over are often
(E) how frequently the inventory turns over can be



HI Egmat/Daagh/Vercules/Experts,

Can you please explain why is E chosen over D?
This is probably the first question where I have come across this rule - sequencing/arrangement of noun vs verb, mattering(is this a wrong word?) in parallelism.

Anyhow, I ended up choosing D - because I saw both
- (how) items are placed, and
- (how frequently) is the inventory turned over

as PASSIVE.

Please explain where I am wrong. And it would be great if you can point me other such examples where N-V order matters.

KR,


I totally agree.. and ı don't get how the OA uses an active and a passive clause together and keeps the parallelism.


You should make similar grammatical structures parallel, viz., a clause with a clause, a noun with a noun, a participle with a participle etc. A clause in passive voice and one in active voice are after all both clauses, and it is perfectly alright to make them parallel. There is no rule whatsoever in GMAT that an active voice clause cannot be parallel to a passive voice clause - the very fact that both are clauses is sufficient enough to establish valid parallelism.

Why D is grammatically incorrect has already been explained in the following post:
https://gmatclub.com/forum/it-is-well-k ... l#p1647472
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New post 29 Dec 2017, 12:44
Why is not B? I'm confused between B and E
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Shivikaa, "is" in B is wrong because we have a plural (compound) subject. Two different things are crucial: How items are placed and how frequently the inventory turns over. Notice that in B, we also have a parallelism problem. "The frequency" doesn't match well with "how items are placed."
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New post 20 Jun 2018, 08:07
A,B,C - unparallel how item.. and the.
D - "turned over" --> distorts the meaning.

Hence, E is the Answer.
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