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Hi All,

I would really appreciate a feedback on my profile.

GMAT - 770
10th - 78.6% (CBSE)
12th - 77.2% with PCM (CBSE)
Graduation - B.tech (Computer Science engineering) from UPTU (72.8 %)
Age : 33
Gender: Female
Nationality - Indian
Target Colleges : HARVARD, STANFORD, WHARTON, INSEAD, LBS , COLUMBIA, KELLOGGS, MIT SLOAN, NYU STERN, CHICAGO BOOTH
Professional Experience- 11.5 years of Full time work experience ( Worked in known IT Brands - Capgemini,L&T Infotech, Wipro)
CURRENT ROLE : ( Business Intelligence Specialist) Manager in a Hedge fund company. Works in a techno-functional role
Career key highlights -
 Saved $49.7M by implementing proof-of-concept to convert $500 M projects from Ab Initio to PySpark technology
 Contributed $200k annual revenue by aggregating unstructured data from 100+ sources for new product
 Saved a fine of $125M by creating Data Redaction Framework, since replicated globally on data obfuscation for card
customers; Supported the Project Manager and Tech Lead to liaison with clients and harvest available test data
 Optimized support model and addressed recurring incidents reducing weekly incident count from 55 to 20; Reduced
the production incident TAT by 20% using a logistic plan for frequently occurring issues
 Collaborated with Infrastructure team to write custom shell scripts for process monitoring and data clean-up; Reduced
disk space requirement by 35% by freeing up 15TB space daily
 Reduced 50% TAT for managerial reporting system using optimized algorithms for query processing
 Facilitated business expansion and increased user base from 100-200 to 100k users in 3 months
 Generated processes to capture data from 150 servers across different locations; Reduced 30% TAT for check-in/out
and graph execution by streamlining 120 projects using data lineage
 Trained a team of 4 recruits in Financial Services Business Unit; Got promoted first, amongst the batch of 1100


CERTIFICATIONS
 NSE Academy Certification in Financial Markets Certification, NSE India, Aug 2015
 Certification on Data Warehouse Concepts, Brain-bench, Aug 2015
ACHIEVEMENTS
 Won the 1st prize among 1500 participants, Planks Competition, organized by <>, Mar 2018
 Author of Romance Novel <>, 2015
 Featured in National Newspapers ( Hindustan Times , Times of India ) , 2015
 1 Manuscript complete & publishing is in progres ( Not sure if this is worth mentioning ) , 2 Manuscripts ( Writing in progress) .
VOLUNTEER WORK
 Volunteer, Corporate Wellness Programs, <>: Organised wellness challenges for 80 colleagues & helped
5 colleagues to achieve weight transformation; Wrote 15 health & fitness articles on the company portal, Mar 2020
 Young Professional Ambassador, CSR Team, <>: Created awareness about 'Teach for India’ fellowship
programme; Identified 135 individuals out of which 5 were selected for fellowship programme, Apr 2012 – Mar 2013

Post MBA goals - (Short term plan )Digital Transformation Leader , ( Long term plan) Chief Information Officer . I am also open to explore possibilities in Consulting and look forward to explore that dimension too. But leveraging my IT experience in Business Intelligence would be great.
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Hi! Thanks for taking a look at my profile. Targeting the EMBA program.
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LOR: 1 is from my current manager. I worked with her at a previous company and she asked me to join her here so we have a great relationship. I have not decided on my second LOR. I can ask my professional mentor who managed me at my first job and has seen my growth across my career. My second option is a c-suite leader who has worked with me closely at this job, but does not know much about my career before this. She is extremely well known
Extracurriculars: Started my own people analytics consortium, part of the leadership committee for the south asian ERG at work, volunteer with impoverished children in India and work with school kids from under-resourced areas near me. I also do a lot of DEI work as a part of my job, building processes to analyze and ensure equity across the employee lifecycle
Motivation for getting an MBA: I want to be able to connect our people data back to the business objectives. HR tends to be in the support function objectives grouped with a lot of other items, but I believe that people data and analytics should underlay all of our business objectives. In order to do this effectively, I need to be able to understand and speak the languages of the different functions.
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Hi! Thanks for taking a look at my profile. Targeting the EMBA program.
Age: 32
Nationality: American (Indian origin)
Undergrad: Economics, math, statistics (3.4 GPA)
Masters: HR from Rutgers (3.9 GPA)
EA: Planning to take the executive assessment since I will have 8 years of work ex by matriculation. Currently around the 150-155 range in the official practice tests Try to get closer to the 155+
Work Experience: 8 years in the automotive and tech industries. Currently head of analytics in HR at a series D unicorn startup. I lead a team of data scientists and am building the people analytics function from the ground up Good experience
Sponsorship: 100% company sponsored This is a big plus! Good for you in getting sponsored-- not so easy to do anymore!
LOR: 1 is from my current manager. I worked with her at a previous company and she asked me to join her here so we have a great relationship. I have not decided on my second LOR. I can ask my professional mentor who managed me at my first job and has seen my growth across my career. My second option is a c-suite leader who has worked with me closely at this job, but does not know much about my career before this. She is extremely well known Pick the person that can best speak to seeing your biggest accomplishments and impact
Extracurriculars: Started my own people analytics consortium, part of the leadership committee for the south asian ERG at work, volunteer with impoverished children in India and work with school kids from under-resourced areas near me. I also do a lot of DEI work as a part of my job, building processes to analyze and ensure equity across the employee lifecycle
Motivation for getting an MBA: I want to be able to connect our people data back to the business objectives. HR tends to be in the support function objectives grouped with a lot of other items, but I believe that people data and analytics should underlay all of our business objectives. In order to do this effectively, I need to be able to understand and speak the languages of the different functions.
You have a good shot--although EA score and Rutgers is not necessarily the most helpful but you are sponsored and have some good support. Do a good job on your essays and application overall!
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Hi! Thanks for taking a look at my profile. Targeting the EMBA program.
Age: 32
Nationality: American (Indian origin)
Undergrad: Economics, math, statistics (3.4 GPA)
Masters: HR from Rutgers (3.9 GPA)
EA: Planning to take the executive assessment since I will have 8 years of work ex by matriculation. Currently around the 150-155 range in the official practice tests Try to get closer to the 155+
Work Experience: 8 years in the automotive and tech industries. Currently head of analytics in HR at a series D unicorn startup. I lead a team of data scientists and am building the people analytics function from the ground up Good experience
Sponsorship: 100% company sponsored This is a big plus! Good for you in getting sponsored-- not so easy to do anymore!
LOR: 1 is from my current manager. I worked with her at a previous company and she asked me to join her here so we have a great relationship. I have not decided on my second LOR. I can ask my professional mentor who managed me at my first job and has seen my growth across my career. My second option is a c-suite leader who has worked with me closely at this job, but does not know much about my career before this. She is extremely well known Pick the person that can best speak to seeing your biggest accomplishments and impact
Extracurriculars: Started my own people analytics consortium, part of the leadership committee for the south asian ERG at work, volunteer with impoverished children in India and work with school kids from under-resourced areas near me. I also do a lot of DEI work as a part of my job, building processes to analyze and ensure equity across the employee lifecycle
Motivation for getting an MBA: I want to be able to connect our people data back to the business objectives. HR tends to be in the support function objectives grouped with a lot of other items, but I believe that people data and analytics should underlay all of our business objectives. In order to do this effectively, I need to be able to understand and speak the languages of the different functions.
You have a good shot--although EA score and Rutgers is not necessarily the most helpful but you are sponsored and have some good support. Do a good job on your essays and application overall!

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I forgot to mention I have an alumni referral as well - they recommended me for the program. Not sure if this helps though?

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Hi! Thanks for taking a look at my profile. Targeting the EMBA program.
Age: 32
Nationality: American (Indian origin)
Undergrad: Economics, math, statistics (3.4 GPA)
Masters: HR from Rutgers (3.9 GPA)
EA: Planning to take the executive assessment since I will have 8 years of work ex by matriculation. Currently around the 150-155 range in the official practice tests Try to get closer to the 155+
Work Experience: 8 years in the automotive and tech industries. Currently head of analytics in HR at a series D unicorn startup. I lead a team of data scientists and am building the people analytics function from the ground up Good experience
Sponsorship: 100% company sponsored This is a big plus! Good for you in getting sponsored-- not so easy to do anymore!
LOR: 1 is from my current manager. I worked with her at a previous company and she asked me to join her here so we have a great relationship. I have not decided on my second LOR. I can ask my professional mentor who managed me at my first job and has seen my growth across my career. My second option is a c-suite leader who has worked with me closely at this job, but does not know much about my career before this. She is extremely well known Pick the person that can best speak to seeing your biggest accomplishments and impact
Extracurriculars: Started my own people analytics consortium, part of the leadership committee for the south asian ERG at work, volunteer with impoverished children in India and work with school kids from under-resourced areas near me. I also do a lot of DEI work as a part of my job, building processes to analyze and ensure equity across the employee lifecycle
Motivation for getting an MBA: I want to be able to connect our people data back to the business objectives. HR tends to be in the support function objectives grouped with a lot of other items, but I believe that people data and analytics should underlay all of our business objectives. In order to do this effectively, I need to be able to understand and speak the languages of the different functions.
You have a good shot--although EA score and Rutgers is not necessarily the most helpful but you are sponsored and have some good support. Do a good job on your essays and application overall!

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I forgot to mention I have an alumni referral as well - they recommended me for the program. Not sure if this helps though?
Absolutely! That can only help!
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Hi All

Wondering what would be an acceptable EA score for Wharton. I have taken it twice and got the below scores:

Attempt 1 - 152 (IR11, V11, Q10)

Attempt 2 - 151 (IR9, V9, Q13)

Should I retake the EA? Planning to apply in R2.

Profile - Engineer working as Director in a small tech company w 12 years WE

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Hi All!

Can you please review my profile?

Thank you very much!

Background and nationality: Hungarian, male, 27 years old by the time I apply.

Undergrad Information: Law degree from a Hungarian university, GPA: 4,61/5 with a summa cum laude distinction, top 15% of the class. I have received national excellence scholarships (these scholarships are given to students who have particularly high GPAs and performed certain extracurricular activities) for three semesters and national merit scholarships for all other semesters from the Hungarian Ministry of Justice and have received a Dean’s Award as well.


GMAT: aiming for 760-770

Work experience and leadership: by the time I apply I’ll have more than three years of experience working as a transactional lawyer on real estate and m&a deals at leading international law firms in Budapest, including 200-400 million EUR cross-border deals, not much leadership experience as I’m still considered a quite junior associate in the legal environment, however I have regularly coordinated different sub-tasks of a larger matter, where I had to lead and coordinate the work of my colleagues who are even more junior than me.

Community and others: now this is definetely one of my weakest points, I do not have much community experience apart from being part of a college for advanced studies during my years at university, I also have won and placed well on a couple of national competitions and participated in an international competition as well and had several internships during uni as extracurricular activities.

Post MBA goals:
Short term: switch my carrier to investment banking, as I’m definetly more interested in the finance/business side of deals than the legal side
Long term: build on my experience gained as a transactional lawyer and an investment banker and establish an m&a/transactional advisory firm in Hungary

International experience: I have studied a semester abroad as an Erasmus student, but no significant international work experience
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Hi,

Thank you for taking the time to evaluate my profile. I'm thinking of applying to Wharton Molies Advanced Access this year. Currently a senior in college

Background and nationality: Asian Male, non-US citizen
Undergrad Information: Top 3 liberal arts college, GPA 3.94, Major GPA 4.0
GMAT: 750(Q49/V42), 740(Cancelled), 750(Q50/V41). Thinking of taking it the fourth time. Consistently getting 780s on practice tests. However, I would really appreciate it if people can share some thoughts on 1) is taking it 4 times too many times? 2) Is the fact that I took it 3 times and got identical scores viewed negatively?
Work experience and leadership: Internships in VC, Hedge Fund, and PE. Incoming ft PE associate on investment team. Treasurer for student clubs
Community and others: Some volunteering.
Post MBA goals: short term transitioning to hedge fund and long-term starting a fund in Asia
Anything else?
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1) is taking it 4 times too many times?

Yes, especially when you don't need to retake the exam given your scores.

2) Is the fact that I took it 3 times and got identical scores viewed negatively?

Not necessarily negatively but not positively either because you already scored high enough. Getting 10-20 extra points at your level is not necessary.

You will be given a look because you check several books but it looks like you have limited extracurricular/community accomplishments (important for deferred MBA admissions) and your profile isn't exactly one that screams non-traditional. It'll be a reach but definitely apply. If you don't get in, you can always re-apply after you have accrued 2+ years of full-time work experience.
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Hi yxu,

Thanks for your post!

First, I would like to mention that the average GMAT for Wharton is about 733; hence, I don’t think you should reappear again for your GMAT and focus on other major aspects of your profile. Regarding your second question, I would like to say that it’s all about “mindset & presentation.” You could present your score as an example of your consistency, as scoring a 735+ consecutively for the third time is not a joke! Also, you need to understand that the program is for candidates who have done well academically in college, which does not exclusively mean they have the highest GPAs or GMAT, but that they’ve learned a lot and are already seeking to apply that knowledge and skill in the real world.

Coming to your Internships, try to highlight the relevant skills learned, roles & responsibilities (including part-time positions and future full-time positions ), and how this skill-set would help in the Wharton MBA program. Furthermore, mention how you plan to use the Wharton MBA program to help you achieve your future professional goals? While answering, Try to align your experience, short and long-term goals, and resources available at Wharton.

Coming to ECAs, you have been Treasurer for student clubs and have some volunteering experience. You should use your ECAs to draft proper examples of leadership, your capabilities and how did you make an impact in your environment.

All in all, I would say you don’t need to reappear for your GMAT. However, I would suggest adding mesmerizing essays that would highlight your personal, professional, and academic performance and how you plan to make specific, meaningful contributions to the Wharton community. If you’d like, we are happy to hop on a call with you sometime this week to discuss your profile in length and further chances to Wharton. Feel free to book a free session with us as per your convenience.

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Hi,

Thank you for taking the time to evaluate my profile. I'm thinking of applying to Wharton Molies Advanced Access this year. Currently a senior in college

Background and nationality: Asian Male, non-US citizen
Undergrad Information: Top 3 liberal arts college, GPA 3.94, Major GPA 4.0
GMAT: 750(Q49/V42), 740(Cancelled), 750(Q50/V41). Thinking of taking it the fourth time. Consistently getting 780s on practice tests. However, I would really appreciate it if people can share some thoughts on 1) is taking it 4 times too many times? 2) Is the fact that I took it 3 times and got identical scores viewed negatively?
Work experience and leadership: Internships in VC, Hedge Fund, and PE. Incoming ft PE associate on investment team. Treasurer for student clubs
Community and others: Some volunteering.
Post MBA goals: short term transitioning to hedge fund and long-term starting a fund in Asia
Anything else?
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Hi All!

Can you please review my profile?

Thank you very much!

Background and nationality: Hungarian, male, 27 years old by the time I apply.

Undergrad Information: Law degree from a Hungarian university, GPA: 4,61/5 with a summa cum laude distinction, top 15% of the class. I have received national excellence scholarships (these scholarships are given to students who have particularly high GPAs and performed certain extracurricular activities) for three semesters and national merit scholarships for all other semesters from the Hungarian Ministry of Justice and have received a Dean’s Award as well.


GMAT: aiming for 760-770

Work experience and leadership: by the time I apply I’ll have more than three years of experience working as a transactional lawyer on real estate and m&a deals at leading international law firms in Budapest, including 200-400 million EUR cross-border deals, not much leadership experience as I’m still considered a quite junior associate in the legal environment, however I have regularly coordinated different sub-tasks of a larger matter, where I had to lead and coordinate the work of my colleagues who are even more junior than me.

Community and others: now this is definetely one of my weakest points, I do not have much community experience apart from being part of a college for advanced studies during my years at university, I also have won and placed well on a couple of national competitions and participated in an international competition as well and had several internships during uni as extracurricular activities.

Post MBA goals:
Short term: switch my carrier to investment banking, as I’m definetly more interested in the finance/business side of deals than the legal side
Long term: build on my experience gained as a transactional lawyer and an investment banker and establish an m&a/transactional advisory firm in Hungary

International experience: I have studied a semester abroad as an Erasmus student, but no significant international work experience

Congratulations on your academic achievements so far. As an international applying to Wharton, you will face tougher odds than a domestic U.S. citizen, though coming from Hungary makes you part of a less well-represented Eastern European demographic (versus, say, Indian/Pakistani/Chinese/Bangladeshi, etc.).

Your profile will have fewer “known quantities” than other profiles, especially if the “big deals” that you are working on aren’t with a well known bulge-bracket international bank (e.g., Morgan Stanley, Goldman Sachs, etc.). Schools like to see these employer names on resumes because 1) it outsources some of the sifting 2) students with these names on their resumes do better in recruiting, which is ultimately what every AdCom wants since employability and salary averages weigh heavily on school ranking.

All of this means that you should study hard for the GMAT, because it may be the only apples-to-apples comparison that your candidacy allows for. There won’t be that many mega M&A Hungarian transaction lawyers, but almost every Wharton applicant will have a GMAT score, which allows for comparison across geography and discipline. If you can get the 760-770 you are angling for, you will be doing yourself a great service. (Though know that 770 GMAT scores still get rejected from Wharton every cycle).

You provided more color on your aspirations and background than many candidate eval requests (Thank you!), but we don’t know *why* you want to go into IB from the legal side. We also don’t know why you need the MBA to do it. Many people go from legal M&A roles to sell-side customer facing ones without an MBA. There is an adage in finance, “The Harvard JD is the best MBA.” You’ve been to a lot of school already. More than many other MBA hopefuls. You are going to need to demonstrate why you need an MBA to achieve your goals and how an MBA will make you better and more successful in the job you want. I can’t answer this question without talking to you, but I’d imagine that things like formal finance/accounting/operations coursework will be helpful to you and you may not have classroom experiences in these areas. Some people talk about the opportunity to hone leadership as a honed discipline (e.g., leadership treks, club management roles, etc.), but that’s not something I’d emphasize if you know that you are already weaker on the EC leadership piece.

A note on the EC leadership stuff: we get a lot of international clients who think they don’t have anything EC when in reality they have good, usable material and they just don’t realize it. For example, being part of a band, even informally, even with your church choir, for instance, can make for great essays. You don’t have to found a non-profit and raise a bottomless endowment to seem like a nice, fun person outside of the classroom. Many successful applicants write great essays about their hobbyist passion for piano or chess or karaoke or car repair. Sometimes these provide even more fertile, unique material than the boilerplate civic engagement. Think about how you spend your time outside of work - almost anything can be turned into a great essay with the right guidance and paradigm. If you literally do nothing outside of work, then start a few hobbies! All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy! You’ll be better for it if you have a life outside of work, beyond your business school application!
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Hi yxu,

Thank you for sharing. Congrats on the strong GMAT/undergraduate performance. If you think you can score even higher, it will not hurt you to sit for the test a fourth time (you can take the exam up to 5 times during a 12-month period). I'd say a 760+ could give you an edge you may not have otherwise had.

Successful deferred MBA applicants have a strong track record of leadership and success. What are some internship/extracurricular activities that you have engaged in?

Wharton's Advance Access program is a great choice, though you will want to target additional schools to maximize your chances of success. Take a look at Personal MBA Coach's deferred MBA packages to explore additional programs and learn how we can help set you up for success.

Feel free to reach out to scott@personalmbacoach.com to further discuss your candidacy. We work with a lot of folks from top liberal arts colleges, and a lot of deferred MBA applicants.

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Hi,

Thank you for taking the time to evaluate my profile. I'm thinking of applying to Wharton Molies Advanced Access this year. Currently a senior in college

Background and nationality: Asian Male, non-US citizen
Undergrad Information: Top 3 liberal arts college, GPA 3.94, Major GPA 4.0
GMAT: 750(Q49/V42), 740(Cancelled), 750(Q50/V41). Thinking of taking it the fourth time. Consistently getting 780s on practice tests. However, I would really appreciate it if people can share some thoughts on 1) is taking it 4 times too many times? 2) Is the fact that I took it 3 times and got identical scores viewed negatively?
Work experience and leadership: Internships in VC, Hedge Fund, and PE. Incoming ft PE associate on investment team. Treasurer for student clubs
Community and others: Some volunteering.
Post MBA goals: short term transitioning to hedge fund and long-term starting a fund in Asia
Anything else?
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Hi,

Thank you for taking the time to evaluate my profile. I'm thinking of applying to Wharton Molies Advanced Access this year. Currently a senior in college

Background and nationality: Asian Male, non-US citizen
Undergrad Information: Top 3 liberal arts college, GPA 3.94, Major GPA 4.0
GMAT: 750(Q49/V42), 740(Cancelled), 750(Q50/V41). Thinking of taking it the fourth time. Consistently getting 780s on practice tests. However, I would really appreciate it if people can share some thoughts on 1) is taking it 4 times too many times? 2) Is the fact that I took it 3 times and got identical scores viewed negatively?
Work experience and leadership: Internships in VC, Hedge Fund, and PE. Incoming ft PE associate on investment team. Treasurer for student clubs
Community and others: Some volunteering.
Post MBA goals: short term transitioning to hedge fund and long-term starting a fund in Asia
Anything else?


Hello yxu , albeit a little late in responding, I hope this thread would help others with similar concerns.

Your undergrad GPA and GMAT are decently competitive for the Wharton Molies Advance Access program, therefore rather than dwelling on the last 2 attempts, you should focus on streamlining your narrative to highlight what makes you unique as an applicant.

"The program seeks students who are innovative, intellectually curious, and ready to take professional risks while impacting the world."
In my humble opinion, conveying your impact potential is extremely important to be considered a strong applicant for this advanced access program with a philanthropic connotation. Your lack of volunteering experience and work experience in areas that reflect positively on this aspect can be a cause for concern. The objective of this program is to encourage individuals who want to follow an unconventional professional trajectory with confidence, under Wharton's patronage. Think what is the underlying theme connecting all the internships you did and how does the upcoming PE role add to the passions, goals, and ideas that you have for yourself. Communicate how will you make a positive impact with your contributions.

Warm regards
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Hi! I'm planning to apply for fall next year or the year after, hoping mainly to build my profile - would appreciate it if anyone can give me any advice:

Background and nationality: 26 years old, Chinese male, one of the Southeast Asian countries
Undergrad Information: University College London, Engineering (second class upper)
GMAT: Second take 710 (V36 Q50), IR 5 (just took today, might cancel and retake); Cancelled first take 690 (V37 Q48), IR 5
Work experience and leadership: 1 year in my country's sovereign fund (PE and equity research analyst roles), before working in a non-MBB (non-big4 either) as a junior strategy consultant. Also, I was my ex-Prime Minister's intern for 2 months in university days not sure how much will this info help.
Community and others: None at the moment. Used to represent my uni for archery in a competition or two. Was a national Scrabble player up to 18 years old. Also was a volunteer tutor + helped a rural community build a house (literally) when I was 18. Was an assistant Karate coach for young children for a while during weekends.
Entrepreneurship experience: Not really like a business per se, but I started the first student-run consulting group in my country, started Jujitsu club during college, was class representative in university)
Post MBA goals: Either entrepreneurship or work in VC, with a focus on fintech perhaps. Still not entirely sure about motivation for a MBA at the moment - for now it's mainly the prestige.
Anything else? First-gen, secured full scholarship for my entire undergrad, interned at multiple consulting firms and a renowned local PE firm. I also travelled to 20 countries in university not sure if that helps.
Schools I am planning to apply to: HWS, MIT, Columbia

Personal thoughts on my strengths and weaknesses in profile:
Pros:
- First-gen student, strong extracurriculars when I was 18 (lol) so I guess I can spin the story of me coming from a poor background (e.g. became a national scrabble player at 16 at a Chinese school) and very self-made
- Full scholarship record
- Generally interesting I feel? (worked for my Prime Minister, did martial arts, played Scrabble, archery etc)

Cons:
- Career is not exceptional (sovereign fund for a year, then strategy at Tier 2 not Tier 1)
- Very average academics (2:1, below average GMAT of 710)
- Feels like my extracurriculars weren't too impressive after 18 years old

Was hoping to obtain advice on: 1. should I cancel my GMAT scores in the next 72 hours (noting that my IR was 5), 2. anything that stands out, and what can I possibly do in the meantime to boost my profile) 3. Grades - not sure if that would be a little bit of a disadvantage as a Southeast Asian male consultant.

Thanks in advance!
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Hi! I'm planning to apply for fall next year or the year after, hoping mainly to build my profile - would appreciate it if anyone can give me any advice:

Background and nationality: 26 years old, Chinese male, one of the Southeast Asian countries
Undergrad Information: University College London, Engineering (second class upper)
GMAT: Second take 710 (V36 Q50), IR 5 (just took today, might cancel and retake); Cancelled first take 690 (V37 Q48), IR 5
Work experience and leadership: 1 year in my country's sovereign fund (PE and equity research analyst roles), before working in a non-MBB (non-big4 either) as a junior strategy consultant. Also, I was my ex-Prime Minister's intern for 2 months in university days not sure how much will this info help.
Community and others: None at the moment. Used to represent my uni for archery in a competition or two. Was a national Scrabble player up to 18 years old. Also was a volunteer tutor + helped a rural community build a house (literally) when I was 18. Was an assistant Karate coach for young children for a while during weekends.
Entrepreneurship experience: Not really like a business per se, but I started the first student-run consulting group in my country, started Jujitsu club during college, was class representative in university)
Post MBA goals: Either entrepreneurship or work in VC, with a focus on fintech perhaps. Still not entirely sure about motivation for a MBA at the moment - for now it's mainly the prestige.
Anything else? First-gen, secured full scholarship for my entire undergrad, interned at multiple consulting firms and a renowned local PE firm. I also travelled to 20 countries in university not sure if that helps.
Schools I am planning to apply to: HWS, MIT, Columbia

Personal thoughts on my strengths and weaknesses in profile:
Pros:
- First-gen student, strong extracurriculars when I was 18 (lol) so I guess I can spin the story of me coming from a poor background (e.g. became a national scrabble player at 16 at a Chinese school) and very self-made
- Full scholarship record
- Generally interesting I feel? (worked for my Prime Minister, did martial arts, played Scrabble, archery etc)

Cons:
- Career is not exceptional (sovereign fund for a year, then strategy at Tier 2 not Tier 1)
- Very average academics (2:1, below average GMAT of 710)
- Feels like my extracurriculars weren't too impressive after 18 years old

Was hoping to obtain advice on: 1. should I cancel my GMAT scores in the next 72 hours (noting that my IR was 5), 2. anything that stands out, and what can I possibly do in the meantime to boost my profile) 3. Grades - not sure if that would be a little bit of a disadvantage as a Southeast Asian male consultant.

Thanks in advance!

Hi fairplay01 hope you are doing well

1. You need not cancel a 710 as an increase over your current GMAT score would demonstrate your persistence and commitment to doing better. However, some applicants are not comfortable with presenting their GMAT score history when they are confident of getting a better one the next time around. So let it be your call.

2. If portrayed in the right manner, I think experience in strategy consulting, topped with PE experience is the classic “Top Tier” kind of pre-MBA experience, especially for young professionals like you. So that’s good.
But at the same time, you must also understand that you would be competing with similar high-performing profiles who may have better brands or even MBB branding in addition to a top-tier VC experience.
You have to demonstrate that working in a small strategy consulting company (non-feeder) gave you more opportunities to get hands-on experience, opportunities to engage with leadership, and have a direct impact on business, compared to folks with branded feeder profiles that may not have the right kind of depth in their professional experiences.
If you can corroborate your internship stint with ex-PM, that would be an interesting read in your application. Your ECs can be interesting points of discussion too and present a well-rounded profile.

3. You have been a scholarship holder all throughout, therefore I do not think that with a great GMAT score and this academic record the schools would think any less about your academic bent.

I also suggest you to consider other schools from the top 10-15 ranking as safe options.

If you wish to seek professional guidance feel free to reach out.

Best wishes
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Hi! I'm planning to apply for fall next year or the year after, hoping mainly to build my profile - would appreciate it if anyone can give me any advice:

Background and nationality: 26 years old, Chinese male, one of the Southeast Asian countries
Undergrad Information: University College London, Engineering (second class upper)
GMAT: Second take 710 (V36 Q50), IR 5 (just took today, might cancel and retake); Cancelled first take 690 (V37 Q48), IR 5
Work experience and leadership: 1 year in my country's sovereign fund (PE and equity research analyst roles), before working in a non-MBB (non-big4 either) as a junior strategy consultant. Also, I was my ex-Prime Minister's intern for 2 months in university days not sure how much will this info help.
Community and others: None at the moment. Used to represent my uni for archery in a competition or two. Was a national Scrabble player up to 18 years old. Also was a volunteer tutor + helped a rural community build a house (literally) when I was 18. Was an assistant Karate coach for young children for a while during weekends.
Entrepreneurship experience: Not really like a business per se, but I started the first student-run consulting group in my country, started Jujitsu club during college, was class representative in university)
Post MBA goals: Either entrepreneurship or work in VC, with a focus on fintech perhaps. Still not entirely sure about motivation for a MBA at the moment - for now it's mainly the prestige.
Anything else? First-gen, secured full scholarship for my entire undergrad, interned at multiple consulting firms and a renowned local PE firm. I also travelled to 20 countries in university not sure if that helps.
Schools I am planning to apply to: HWS, MIT, Columbia

Personal thoughts on my strengths and weaknesses in profile:
Pros:
- First-gen student, strong extracurriculars when I was 18 (lol) so I guess I can spin the story of me coming from a poor background (e.g. became a national scrabble player at 16 at a Chinese school) and very self-made
- Full scholarship record
- Generally interesting I feel? (worked for my Prime Minister, did martial arts, played Scrabble, archery etc)

Cons:
- Career is not exceptional (sovereign fund for a year, then strategy at Tier 2 not Tier 1)
- Very average academics (2:1, below average GMAT of 710)
- Feels like my extracurriculars weren't too impressive after 18 years old

Was hoping to obtain advice on: 1. should I cancel my GMAT scores in the next 72 hours (noting that my IR was 5), 2. anything that stands out, and what can I possibly do in the meantime to boost my profile) 3. Grades - not sure if that would be a little bit of a disadvantage as a Southeast Asian male consultant.

Thanks in advance!

Your professional stats are impressive, even if you are coming from tier 2 rather than tier 1 consulting and even considering that your GMAT score is going to be low for Wharton given your demo. Your academic stats are also nothing to snuff at, even if you think they are mediocre, because your pedigree has some name recognition and international signaling.

You seem to have a pretty good handle on your strengths and weaknesses and how adcoms will evaluate you generally. What alarmed me most about your write-up is your intention to “spin the story of me coming from a poor background.” Be careful how you do that. SEA applicants don’t realize how overrepresented the cliche story of “pulling themselves up from their bootstraps” is for their demographic and how overrepresented their demographic is in the applicant pool relative to available spots for international students. Many times the first drafts that we get from these applicants (we usually do 4-5 so it’s okay if the first is bad), has about 50% of the content about the odds that the applicant beat just to get to college. They talk ad nauseum about how their parents sacrificed so much for their success and it just turns into such a cliche. The truth is that their success to achieve XYZ table stakes credential in MBA was given their upbringing and household wealth just isn’t differentiated given their demo. These stories *ARE OBJECTIVELY IMPRESSIVE,* but, in our experience, are so plentiful in written apps that they are going to be boring and repetitive to the adcom. A careful, subtle and not word-intensive (you don’t want to waste real estate on this!) nod to the long-odds of your professional/academic success given your family’s resource constraints may be prudent, but it SHOULD NOT be a major part of your application or a whole essay.

Think of it this way: most M7 MBAs (including Wharton), are 30-40% non-US students. Of those, many are dual passport holders, or longtime residents, or came here for college or are already working here, or are somehow already “American.” That that leaves a very small proportion of spots for all international students, and an even smaller still sliver for SEA applicants. AdComs target international students from all over the globe, but there are concentrations in terms of countries from which applicants apply. Central Asia, Latin America (ex-Mexico), Africa tend to be underrepresented relative to SEA/China (you represent both of those demos given the geographic vs. ethnic heritage you identified in your post). So you are going to be competing with a lot of people for a small number of spots. Of those people, many (most?) are going to come from either 1) crazy wealthy family business backgrounds 2) under resourced backgrounds (which, in our experience, seems to be the predominate share). Such is the reality of wealth inequality, unfortunately. So, if you make your application all about the way you beat the odds and how much your family sacrificed, you really aren’t going to separate yourself from the masses of other applicants who are going to be writing about the same thing. Make your point (subtly, without much fanfare), and then get away from that subject.

Frankly, I think your scrabble interest could be turned into something really interesting. Research the schools – see if there is a scrabble club. Are you coming from a muslim country like Malaysia or Indonesia? Many schools have board game clubs that are really hot with observant non-drinking students. You could organize a scrabble competition! Check out Wharton’s Strategy & Board Games Club: https://groups.wharton.upenn.edu/strategygames/home/

Many people think they have to be leaders in high profile non-profits that they founded in order to have ECs big enough for b-school acceptance. The reality is different - you just need to play up what you have. It’s better to play a weak recent hand well than to try to play up stale accomplishments. If you “haven’t done anything impressive EC-wise since 18” don’t write a bunch of stuff about what you did when you were 16. That’s a red flag generally and a mistake that is frequently made by international applicants. If you’ve been a competitive scrabble genius since you were a kid, say so. BUT make sure to tie it to the present and how that will benefit the particular b-school community(e.g., “I still organize weekly games for my friends in XYZ city, and we all look forward to the annual competition I organize for XX… I’d look forward to continuing the tradition as the [Xst] president of Wharton’s Strategy & Board Games Club, where I’d look forward to expanding the club beyond the bounds of B-school students to include professors and faculty as well.”) Adcoms love it when you can use your niche skills to build community. You may not be the smartest person in the room, but you’ll be more than smart enough to be there, and you can be a utility player bringing people together to create the kind of organic synergy b-school is known for. Reach out to the club members from the club website to learn more about the club so that you can reference those conversations and your knowledge of the club in your application – that will show that you know how to network and that you “get it” with regard to networking’s importance in business.

The work at a sovereign wealth fund is differentiating, more so than the second tier consulting firm. If you talk about career aspirations, it would be smart to play up that aspect, especially in combo with your government/political ties (working for PM!). That could also be differentiating! Potential career paths that come to mind - IFC or other World Bank-type stuff, UN, IMF. Your background could also give you a leg up in top-tier dual Masters in Public Administration / Masters Business Administration programs. Since it’s Wharton we’re talking about, you could consider a dual app to Fels (at Penn) or consider Wharton’s partnership with Havard’s Kennedy School. Every MBA program wants people to have aspirations of public service or at least public-private partnerships. That reflects positively on their brand and their international visibility, especially if you are considering going back to Asia post-MBA. Keep in mind that you don’t have to do exactly what you say you want to do professionally in your application when you actually get to MBA. Nobody will hold you to those stated application aspirations – many (most, even!) change their minds!

Your internationally-oriented experience (both in terms of your education and your work experience), is impressive enough that I think you could still shoot for M7 with your 710 GMAT score (which is going to be a standard deviation lower - maybe even more than one standard deviation lower - than the average for SEA demographic accepted students for these schools). You just need to make sure that your strategic positioning (e.g., what you want to do short-term and long-term and how that aligns with your prior accomplishments and demonstrated passions) is flawless and differentiated from your peers applying from the same geography.

Best of luck to you!
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Hello everyone,

I am a recent graduate from IIT Kharagpur where I completed my B. Tech in Civil Engineering. I have recently written GMAT and achieved a 740 score (Q51 V38 IR 7). I wanted to know about my chances at top MBA schools in the US (such as Wharton, Harvard etc) and also at top MiM schools (such as HEC).

A little about my profile for reference: I am working at Barclays as a Graduate Analyst (software developer) and I will be completing my 2 years there by July 2023.

I am the co-founder of an NGO which teaches over 200 students and has around 200 volunteers. We have gained significant recognition and also have been marketed by Rhea Kapoor's Team.

In college my CGPA was 8.54 and my class rank was 3. I was part of our college 's tech fest team. I have some projects (none published) in my resume as well.

In school I was part of the cricket and football team, won the best speaker award and also won student of the year. 10th: 10 CGPA; 12th: 96.2%

Would appreciate if someone could provide me some feedback. Thanks in advance

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