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Minnesota is the only one of the contiguous forty-eight states that still has a sizable wolf population, and where this predator remains the archenemy of cattle and sheep.

(A) that still has a sizable wolf population, and where

(B) that still has a sizable wolf population, where

(C) that still has a sizable population of wolves, and where

(D) where the population of wolves is still sizable;

(E) where there is still a sizable population of wolves and where

Which one is better sizable wolf population or sizable population of wolves.
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This question is one of the most ticklish problems for a variety of reasons. First of all, this is GMATPREP question. By marking the word ‘this’ in the non-underlined part, GMAT is giving us a message that we should wink at it and leave it, whatever be the its reference since GMAT is known to be liberal in the reference of the pronouns.

But more importantly: is the use of the singular ‘has’ correct?

Look at some examples

1. Twenty-two feet long and 10 feet in diameter, the AM-1 is one of the many new satellites that is a part of 15 years effort of subjecting the interactions of Earth's atmosphere, oceans, and land surfaces to detailed scrutiny from space.
-Correct choice: E. satellites that are part of a 15-year effort to subject the interactions of Earth’s atmosphere, ocean, and land surfaces

2. With its abundance of noun inflections, Icelandic is one of several Germanic languages that is compact when written but can lengthen considerably when translated into English.
Correct Choice: (D) that are compact when written but can lengthen considerably in English translation


One of Xs.........................Singular verb
One of the students has secured centum (without that / who)

One of Xs...that/who........Plural verb
One of the students that/ who have secured centum (with that or who) Xs = the students

Only one of Xs...that/who...Plural verb
Only one of the students who / that have secured centum

Only one of the Xs ...........Singular verb
Only one of the students has secured centum

The only one of the Xs that/who.Singular verb
The only one of the students that/ who has secured centum
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Minnesota is the only one of the contiguous forty-eight states that still has a sizable wolf population, and where this predator remains the archenemy of cattle and sheep.

(A) that still has a sizable wolf population, and where
(B) that still has a sizable wolf population, where
(C) that still has a sizable population of wolves, and where
(D) where the population of wolves is still sizable; - gramatically is correct but needs conjunction to show the logical relationship between two independent clauses, rather tah semicolon that implies their equality
(E) where there is still a sizable population of wolves and where

Remember: when two clauses are introduced than both of them must be parallel either “that….that” OR “where….where” (it is wrong to use “that….where”)
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Choice D woefully misses the conjunction that bridges Minnesota with the un-underlined part of the sentence, resulting in a debate as to what purpose the second part serves after separated from the main part, by a semicolon.

In B, doesn’t the pronoun where, by virtue of its placement, modify population, which is wrong?

Though wordy, by using where for both the parts of the sentence and also by employing the more customary population of wolves rather than the odd wolf population, E seems to stand out IMO
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Choice D woefully misses the conjunction that bridges Minnesota with the un-underlined part of the sentence, resulting in a debate as to what purpose the second part serves after separated from the main part, by a semicolon.

In B, doesn’t the pronoun where, by virtue of its placement, modify population, which is wrong?

Though wordy, by using where for both the parts of the sentence and also by employing the more customary population of wolves rather than the odd wolf population, E seems to stand out IMO


To add to this, for knocking out D, we have to understand that the semicolon in (d) separates its meaning into two unrelated sentences; i.e., the part of (d) that follows the semicolon suggests that the wolf is still the archenemy of the sheep in general. this is almost exactly the opposite of the intended meaning, which is that minnesota is the only state where that's still true!
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Minnesota is the only one of the contiguous forty-eight states that still has a sizable wolf population, and where this predator remains the archenemy of cattle and sheep.

A. that still has a sizable wolf population, and where --- Parallelisms error: we can not place that clause parallel to where clause.
B. that still has a sizable wolf population, where --- where (relative pronoun) is modifying the population.
C. that still has a sizable population of wolves, and where -- same error as in A.
D. where the population of wolves is still sizable; --- separation of ideas by semicolon doesn't go well in this option.
E. where there is still a sizable population of wolves and where --- Though "where there" sounds awkward, E presents perfect parallelism and keeps ideas properly connected.

Therefore, E is Right.

Note: verb "has" in choice A, B and C is fine; it agrees with "the only one".
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Minnesota is the only one of the contiguous forty-eight states that still has a sizable wolf population, and where this predator remains the archenemy of cattle and sheep.

A. that still has a sizable wolf population, and where --- Parallelisms error: we can not place that clause parallel to where clause.
B. that still has a sizable wolf population, where --- where (relative pronoun) is modifying the population.
C. that still has a sizable population of wolves, and where -- same error as in A.
D. where the population of wolves is still sizable; --- separation of ideas by semicolon doesn't go well in this option.
E. where there is still a sizable population of wolves and where --- Though "where there" sounds awkward, E presents perfect parallelism and keeps ideas properly connected.

Therefore, E is Right.

Note: verb "has" in choice A, B and C is fine; it agrees with "the only one".
... the only one of the factors that ...(use singular verb)...
... (only) one of the factors that ... (use plural verb)...


Hi Piyush,
Can u please elaborate a lil more as to why semicolon doesn't seem to go well in option D? I see no specific reason to eliminate it.


Hi,

Semicolon is used when the two clauses are independent but closely related. If you use a semicolon, then the second clause will be "this predator remains the archenemy of cattle and sheep." Now, the second clause becomes a generalization and doesn't indicate whether the action happens in Minnesota or the action happens in general.

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Minnesota is the only one of the contiguous forty-eight states that still has a sizable wolf population, and where this predator remains the archenemy of cattle and sheep.

A. that still has a sizable wolf population, and where - "contiguous 48 states" is plural and being the subject of the "that" clause, needs the plural verb "have" and not "has". "that" ||"where"

B. that still has a sizable wolf population, where - "contiguous 48 states" is plural and being the subject of the "that" clause, needs the plural verb "have" and not "has". "Population" is not a place

C. that still has a sizable population of wolves, and where - "contiguous 48 states" is plural and being the subject of the "that" clause, needs the plural verb "have" and not "has". "that" ||"where"

D. where the population of wolves is still sizable; - "where" correctly refers back to a place". But the "population of the wolves" and "predator" wolves "being an archenemy of cattle and sheep" are 2 related ideas which can best be presented by a conjunction "and" and not by a semi colon clause. The purpose of the part remains ambiguous because of this.

E. where there is still a sizable population of wolves and where Correct
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i think the obvious split is choosing between "that" and "where". "where" clearly makes sense since the underlined portion of the sentence describes about a specific characteristic about Minnesota-"that" seems to refer to other states, which clearly is not what the sentence is trying to convey. Choice D has meaning error, and therefore the right answer is choice E, both logically and syntactically correct.
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stuck b/w D n E option
Why D is wrong


D has a semicolon and as such should make sense with/show result of the portion before the semicolon. The intended meaning of the sentence is that there are 2 things mentioned about Minesotta: 1. It is one of those states where there is a sizable wolf population and 2. the wolves there are the archenemies of cattle etc.

Option D breaks this implied relation and by putting it IC1;IC2 (IC = independent clause) , the 'relatedness' is lost.
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Minnesota is the only one of the contiguous forty-eight states that still has a sizable wolf population, and where this predator remains the archenemy of cattle and sheep.

(A) that still has a sizable wolf population, and where
(B) that still has a sizable wolf population, where
(C) that still has a sizable population of wolves, and where
(D) where the population of wolves is still sizable;
(E) where there is still a sizable population of wolves and where

Which one is better sizable wolf population or sizable population of wolves.
Please explain the answer?


Hi, I have a question why "Has" in A,B,C is wrong.

As it says: "Minnesota is the only one of the contiguous forty-eight states..." shouldn't the singular "has" be correct as it is not "only one of the ...


A clear explanation would be very much appreciated.

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In ‘one of the plural + that construction, the ‘that’ is a relative pronoun for the noun before, namely, ‘states’ in this case, which is plural. So ‘that’ is also plural in character and takes the plural verb ‘have’ rather than ‘has’ as erroneously mentioned in A, B and C. Therefore, we can remove those three choices in one sleight
A semicolon connects two Ics that have some relationship. In D, the clauses stand aloof from each other. Therefore, D is inferior to E, which is well connected with a conjunction and which maintains the ‘where’ parallelism on both wings.


Hey, I'm not sure whether you understood my problem. Let me try to rephrase it:

I'm aware that if it says "only one of..." (without the in front of only) it's plural.

But I was under the impression that if it says "the only one of..." then it must be singular.

And in the the stem it says:

"Minnesota is the only one of the contiguous forty-eight states that still has a sizable wolf population, and where this predator remains the archenemy of cattle and sheep."

So it is not: "Minnesota is only one of the"... where it's obviously plural then




Can you find the error in my thinking here? Or maybe I am reading the sentence wrong. I don't know.
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You are right. When you say, it is the only one, then the verb should be ‘has’. Choices A B and C have no SV error but are wrong because of inferior parallelism of using 'that' in the first place and 'where'in the second place.
Relatively E, you can see, is using where for both the clauses.
In B ‘where’ without the ‘and’ seems to be referring to 'population' which is not a place.
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This question is one of the most ticklish problems for a variety of reasons. First of all, this is GMATPREP question. By marking the word ‘this’ in the non-underlined part, GMAT is giving us a message that we should wink at it and leave it, whatever be the its reference since GMAT is known to be liberal in the reference of the pronouns.

But more importantly: is the use of the singular ‘has’ correct?

Look at some examples

1. Twenty-two feet long and 10 feet in diameter, the AM-1 is one of the many new satellites that is a part of 15 years effort of subjecting the interactions of Earth's atmosphere, oceans, and land surfaces to detailed scrutiny from space.
-Correct choice: E. satellites that are part of a 15-year effort to subject the interactions of Earth’s atmosphere, ocean, and land surfaces

2. With its abundance of noun inflections, Icelandic is one of several Germanic languages that is compact when written but can lengthen considerably when translated into English.
Correct Choice: (D) that are compact when written but can lengthen considerably in English translation


One of Xs.........................Singular verb
One of the students has secured centum (without that / who)

One of Xs...that/who........Plural verb
One of the students that/ who have secured centum (with that or who) Xs = the students

Only one of Xs...that/who...Plural verb
Only one of the students who / that have secured centum

Only one of the Xs ...........Singular verb
Only one of the students has secured centum

The only one of the Xs that/who.Singular verb
The only one of the students that/ who has secured centum



Can someone please explain?

Minnesota is the only one of the contiguous forty-eight states that still has

As per the above rules of using singular/plural verbs, doesn't this sentence falls under the last rule where "the only one of the Xs" takes singular verb?
Yet the answer says the verb should be plural.

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THE NUMBER OF takes singular verb
A NUMBER OF takes plural verb
NOT ONE always takes singular verb (I put this here just in case)

In our sentence "Minnesota is the only one of the contiguous..." - therefore the verb should be singular
where and where - should be parallel

Two parallel clauses often both start with subordinators in order to remove ambiguity. In this instance, the subordinator must be repeated for both clauses!
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Hi Experts, i have a query can we not eliminate abc on the basis of that as we always use where when addressing location?
1 more thing what is the anticident of this predator?
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Hi Experts, i have a query can we not eliminate abc on the basis of that as we always use where when addressing location?


Good question, shalabhg27. I don't think that the GMAT is particularly rigid on this. Sure, if you use the word "where", it would have to modify a place or location -- but you could use "that" to modify a location, too.

  • The restaurant that serves a Polish buffet is one of Chicago's most legendary eateries.
  • Someday, I want to live in a country that has a reasonable health care system.

Both of these seem completely acceptable to me, even though "that" modifies a location in each case ("restaurant" and "country", respectively). So I wouldn't say that "where" is necessary when you're modifying a place or location.

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1 more thing what is the anticident of this predator?

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In the correct answer option E, the mention is of wolves whereas in the non-underlined portion the reference to "this predator" seems confusing to me.
This predator is singular and wolves is plural.
Can anybody clarify please?


Ugh -- this part is trickier, and I don't really like what the GMAT has done here. First, you don't technically need an antecedent for "this predator", since "this predator" isn't a pronoun. But the singular/plural thing is a little bit funky: the sentence would probably be a little bit better if (E) said "these predators" (to match the word "wolves") instead of "this predator."

But to be fair, I don't think that the singular/plural issue is all that much of a crime in this case. Again, "this predator" isn't a pronoun; if "this predator" were changed to "it" in (E), then the answer choice would be inarguably wrong, since "it" can't refer to "wolves." But since "this predator" isn't a pronoun, I think the GMAT would argue that there's no ambiguity here: we still easily understand what, exactly, "this predator" is. Again, I don't love it, but I see their point.

More importantly: remember that the GMAT never asks you to identify a perfect answer choice. They're asking you to identify the best of the five options. Or the least crappy of the five options. As plenty of others have suggested, there are more severe problems with the other four answer choices -- and the little singular/plural issue in (E) is pretty minor by comparison.
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Minnesota is the only one of the contiguous forty-eight states that still has a sizable wolf population, and where this predator remains the archenemy of cattle and sheep.

A. that still has a sizable wolf population, and where That is referring to States and it must have ‘have’ instead of ‘has’

B. that still has a sizable wolf population, where same as A

C. that still has a sizable population of wolves, and where same as A

D. where the population of wolves is still sizable; It is changing he meaning. As per the original sentence we must convey the meaning that those states have two things. But this sentence conveys only one things and makes the other thing as a part of Independent clause. Hence, incorrect.

E. where there is still a sizable population of wolves and where
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Minnesota is the only one of the contiguous forty-eight states that still has a sizable wolf population, and where this predator remains the archenemy of cattle and sheep.

(A) that still has a sizable wolf population, and where
(B) that still has a sizable wolf population, where
(C) that still has a sizable population of wolves, and where
(D) where the population of wolves is still sizable;
(E) where there is still a sizable population of wolves and where
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if an expert can please solidify my thinking here, that would be great:

- at first upon re-reviewing this question, i thought "where" was an error b/c there is no physical location immediately following/preceding the position "where" is in, in the sentence.

-- however, upon reading it again, i'm considering that "where" can tie back in to Minnesota. in fact, for the correct answer, both "where"s tie back to "Minnesota". correct?
> Broader take-away being the GMAT does not necessarily have to insert a location immediately before/after "where" in a sentence...there could be some words/phrases separating the two components
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