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Nandipa wishes to maintain her heart health, strictly follows a plant-based diet and has successfully maintained her blood level of LDL, ''bad'' cholesterol at well within the range considered optimal for heart health. But she is worried that her blood of HDL, ''good'' cholesterol, is lower than is often considered optimal for heart health, and has thus considered consuming foods such as chicken or fish that would increase her blood level of this beneficial substance.

Which of the following, if true, should be most significant for Nandipa in determining whether to add such foods to her diet ?

A. HDL can help to protect against the accumulation of plagues (fatty deposits) in the arteries
B. The benefit of HDL is stricly due to its effect on LDL levels
C. The body produces all of the LDL it needs; so it is unnecessary to consume food containing this form of cholesterol
D. Plant-based diets reduce the sum of both ''good'' and ''bad'' cholesterol
E. There are other good besides chicken or fish that can increase the level of good cholesterol

Got this wrong during mock, anyone could share how you tackle this one ...
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My breakdown of the argument

P1: N keeps good heart health --> follows P/B diet
P2: suc keep low LDL -bad ctsl
P3: HDL good ctsl lower than optimal
P4: considering adding foods like ckc or fish to diet

A - out of scope
B -
C- out of scope
D-
E - out of scope

After POE marked D ......

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can you explain the reason to eliminate option D?

if both good and bad cholesterol go down because of plant-based of diets, then eating food such as chicken or fish would be beneficial to counter the effect of plant-based diet on good cholesterol

Hence I marked D. can you let me know your thoughts here?


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Nandipa wishes to maintain her heart health, strictly follows a plant-based diet and has successfully maintained her blood level of LDL, ''bad'' cholesterol at well within the range considered optimal for heart health. But She is worried that her blood of HDL, ''good'' cholesterol, is lower than is often considered optimal for heart health, and has thus considered consuming foods such as chicken or fish that would increase her blood level of this beneficial substance.

Nandipa has considered consuming foods that increase HDL blood level (such as chicken or fish) to maintain her heart health. Here's why she is considering this change:
  • She wishes to maintain heart health.
  • Her LDL level is in the range considered optimal for heart health.
  • Her HDL level is lower than is often considered optimal for heart health.
  • Foods such as chicken or fish would increase her HDL blood level. (Mmm... fish.)
  • Therefore, consuming foods such as chicken or fish will help Nandipa maintain heart health.

One thing that jumps out immediately from this breakdown is that there's no connection between LDL and HDL. We know that for optimal heart health, one should meet the optimal range for each type of cholesterol. But as far as we can tell, each type impacts heart health independently. This means that if we're analyzing the impact of consuming HDL via food, we shouldn't take into account the role of LDL unless we're given new information that explicitly links the two in their effect on heart health.

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Which of the following, if true , should be most significant for Nandipa in determining whether to add such foods to her diet?

We're looking for anything that could strengthen or weaken the conclusion that consuming foods that increase HDL blood level will help Nandipa maintain her heart health. Let's begin eliminating choices:

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A. HDL can help to protect against the accumulation of plagues (fatty deposits) in the arteries

This choice elaborates on what HDL literally does in the blood stream, but we already know that HDL is "good." Because (A) doesn't have any impact on Nandipa's conclusion (consume foods that contain HDL), we can eliminate it.

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B. The benefit of HDL is stricly due to its effect on LDL levels

If true, this weakens the conclusion. Whereas the only thing we knew before is that more HDL is good for heart health, this choice tells us that the benefit of HDL is limited to its effect on LDL levels. Nandipa's LDL levels are already in the optimal range, so consuming foods with HDL will deliver no additional benefit to her heart health. Let's keep (B) around unless we see something more game-changing.

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C. The body produces all of the LDL it needs; so it is unnecessary to consume food containing this form of cholesterol

The conclusion has nothing to do with consumption of food containing LDL, and this choice doesn't provide information that links LDL to HDL. Eliminate (C).

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D. Plant-based diets reduce the sum of both ''good'' and ''bad'' cholesterol

We already know that Nandipa has a plant-based diet. This new information about what her diet does to the sum of LDL and HDL is irrelevant, because we're are analyzing whether Nandipa should modify that diet by consuming foods that contain HDL (such as chicken or fish). (D) doesn't impact the conclusion we care about, so we'll eliminate it.

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E. There are other foods besides chicken or fish that can increase the level of good cholesterol

Like answer choice (A), this choice underscores something we already know. Who cares how many foods have HDL? We want to know whether Nandipa should make the decision to begin eating these foods; it doesn't matter whether they're chicken, fish, eggs, steak, dosas, pie, bhindi masala, carne asada burritos, vanilla pudding, lamb tagine, Bavarian pretzels, or anything else that might increase HDL levels. Because this choice doesn't provide any information to strengthen or weaken Nandipa's choice to add foods containing HDL to her diet, we can eliminate it as well.

Unrelated: that last paragraph made me hungry. :-o

Anyway, (B) is the best answer. It's the only one that directly addresses Nandipa's decision and provides new information to help us assess that decision.
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Premise: Nand has maintained a plant based diet --> Level of LDL is normal. But level of HDL, good cholesterol is lower than optimal.

Conclusion: Nand has decided to consume foods that would increase the level of HDL.

We are asked to evaluate whether the foods that she has decided to consume is beneficial and does not increase LDL levels.

A. HDL can help to protect against the accumulation of plagues (fatty deposits) in the arteries - Incorrect - Irrelevant. We already know that HDL is good cholesterol. So HDL has some beneficial properties. Moreover we are not worried about the beneficial effects of HDL on the heart.

B. The benefit of HDL is stricly due to its effect on LDL levels - Correct - It can be interpreted from this option that HDL levels govern LDL levels. So if the foods used to increase HDL levels keeps LDL in check then it is recommended to consume such foods, otherwise, such foods are not recommended to be consumed.

C. The body produces all of the LDL it needs; so it is unnecessary to consume food containing this form of cholesterol - Incorrect - Irrelevant

D. Plant-based diets reduce the sum of both ''good'' and ''bad'' cholesterol - Incorrect - Irrelevant. Focus is on consumption of foods which can improve HDL levels, not on plant based diets.

E. There are other good besides chicken or fish that can increase the level of good cholesterol - Incorrect - Irrelevant

Answer: B
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Nandipa wishes to maintain her heart health, strictly follows a plant-based diet and has successfully maintained her blood level of LDL, ''bad'' cholesterol at well within the range considered optimal for heart health. But She is worried that her blood of HDL, ''good'' cholesterol, is lower than is often considered optimal for heart health, and has thus considered consuming foods such as chicken or fish that would increase her blood level of this beneficial substance.


Which of the following, if true , should be most significant for Nandipa in determining whether to add such foods to her diet ?

Ok, let’s analyze it thoroughly.
Objective, healthy heart. P1: Following a plant-based diet she has great levels of Bad Cholesterol, but probably low levels of Good Cholesterol.
The question is, should she increase the levels of good cholesterol?

A. “Whether” HDL can help to protect against the accumulation of plagues (fatty deposits) in the arteries.
Irrelevant, we know HDL, is good we are simply asking ourselves whether she should rise it, not its effects.
B. “Whether” the benefit of HDL is strictly due to its effect on LDL levels
That’s probably it. We were asking ourselves: does she have to increase her levels of good cholesterol? This statement would help to understand whether her good levels of Bad Cholesterol are linked to the low levels of Good Cholesterol or not. If they are, there’s no reason to increase the good cholesterol since it’d likely increase the Bad Cholesterol as well, if they aren’t linked on the contrary she could eat whatever she likes to increase it.
C. “Whether” the body produces all of the LDL it needs; so it is unnecessary to consume food containing this form of cholesterol
This doesn’t answer any of our questions, if it is true we don’t understand why the levels are lower than the normal level, and in case it isn’t true, we don’t have any new information on whether she should eat those foods.
D. Plant-based diets reduce the sum of both ''good'' and ''bad'' cholesterol
Irrelevant. We are talking about whether to try and rise the levels of Good Cholesterol.
E. There are other good besides chicken or fish that can increase the level of good cholesterol
Super out of scope, who cares if nuts can increase cholesterol, we first have to understand whether she needs to!

Answer B.
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Reasoning - if the only benefit of HDL is its effect on LDL levels, Nandipa doesn't have to do anything, since LDL level are already in the required range.
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The other options are soo absurd when considered in context of the Argument, that Option B kinda stands out as the only meaningful option which works. So POE is also a strong alternative to consider while solving the question. I used the same on my mock as I was running short of time and this was 37th Question in my verbal section.
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Premise: Nand has maintained a plant based diet --> Level of LDL is normal. But level of HDL, good cholesterol is lower than optimal.

Conclusion: Nand has decided to consume foods that would increase the level of HDL.

We are asked to evaluate whether the foods that she has decided to consume is beneficial and does not increase LDL levels.

A. HDL can help to protect against the accumulation of plagues (fatty deposits) in the arteries - Incorrect - Irrelevant. We already know that HDL is good cholesterol. So HDL has some beneficial properties. Moreover we are not worried about the beneficial effects of HDL on the heart.

B. The benefit of HDL is stricly due to its effect on LDL levels - Correct - It can be interpreted from this option that HDL levels govern LDL levels. So if the foods used to increase HDL levels keeps LDL in check then it is recommended to consume such foods, otherwise, such foods are not recommended to be consumed.

C. The body produces all of the LDL it needs; so it is unnecessary to consume food containing this form of cholesterol - Incorrect - Irrelevant

D. Plant-based diets reduce the sum of both ''good'' and ''bad'' cholesterol - Incorrect - Irrelevant. Focus is on consumption of foods which can improve HDL levels, not on plant based diets.

E. There are other good besides chicken or fish that can increase the level of good cholesterol - Incorrect - Irrelevant

Answer: B



Want to discuss the reasoning for option B. According to the stem, we need to determine if such foods as chicken/fish is to be added to her diet to increase the HDL. As per option B, HDL's benefit is strictly due to its effect on LDL levels. Since her LDL levels are already within the range, addition of HDL won't be largely beneficial to her. For good health of the heart, her levels are already in place so addition of such foods won't be a huge factor.

As per your reasoning, she can go ahead and add such foods to her diet.

Wanted to know the flaw in my reasoning.
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Nandipa wishes to maintain her heart health, strictly follows a plant-based diet and has successfully maintained her blood level of LDL, ''bad'' cholesterol at well within the range considered optimal for heart health. But She is worried that her blood of HDL, ''good'' cholesterol, is lower than is often considered optimal for heart health, and has thus considered consuming foods such as chicken or fish that would increase her blood level of this beneficial substance.

Which of the following, if true , should be most significant for Nandipa in determining whether to add such foods to her diet ?

A. HDL can help to protect against the accumulation of plagues (fatty deposits) in the arteries
B. The benefit of HDL is stricly due to its effect on LDL levels
C. The body produces all of the LDL it needs; so it is unnecessary to consume food containing this form of cholesterol
D. Plant-based diets reduce the sum of both ''good'' and ''bad'' cholesterol
E. There are other good besides chicken or fish that can increase the level of good cholesterol


In order to evaluate the argument
In choice A it is not useful to know whether HDL can help to protect against palgues
In option B
If answer is yes then that means there is already low levels of LDL in blood there is no advantage in this case for HDL
If answer is no then that means that we need to consume the food rich in HDL .

Answer is B
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Hi Experts,

I have a basic question on handling "evaluate" type of arguments such as this one.

Nandipa wishes to maintain her heart health, strictly follows a plant-based diet and has successfully maintained her blood level of LDL, ''bad'' cholesterol at well within the range considered optimal for heart health. But She is worried that her blood of HDL, ''good'' cholesterol, is lower than is often considered optimal for heart health, and has thus considered consuming foods such as chicken or fish that would increase her blood level of this beneficial substance.

Here the conclusion is: has thus considered consuming foods such as chicken or fish that would increase her blood level of this beneficial substance.

However, the question stem mentions:
Which of the following, if true , should be most significant for Nandipa in determining whether to add such foods to her diet ?

Note that the statement in question stem is more generic (in general would adding such foods to her diet would help her maintain her heart health - her objective) than the conclusion (focuses on only HDL increase).

While, solving these questions, should we make the above distinction or just stay close to the question stem and forget the conclusion?
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Vyshak wrote:
Premise: Nand has maintained a plant based diet --> Level of LDL is normal. But level of HDL, good cholesterol is lower than optimal.

Conclusion: Nand has decided to consume foods that would increase the level of HDL.

We are asked to evaluate whether the foods that she has decided to consume is beneficial and does not increase LDL levels.

A. HDL can help to protect against the accumulation of plagues (fatty deposits) in the arteries - Incorrect - Irrelevant. We already know that HDL is good cholesterol. So HDL has some beneficial properties. Moreover we are not worried about the beneficial effects of HDL on the heart.

B. The benefit of HDL is stricly due to its effect on LDL levels - Correct - It can be interpreted from this option that HDL levels govern LDL levels. So if the foods used to increase HDL levels keeps LDL in check then it is recommended to consume such foods, otherwise, such foods are not recommended to be consumed.

C. The body produces all of the LDL it needs; so it is unnecessary to consume food containing this form of cholesterol - Incorrect - Irrelevant

D. Plant-based diets reduce the sum of both ''good'' and ''bad'' cholesterol - Incorrect - Irrelevant. Focus is on consumption of foods which can improve HDL levels, not on plant based diets.

E. There are other good besides chicken or fish that can increase the level of good cholesterol - Incorrect - Irrelevant

Answer: B



Want to discuss the reasoning for option B. According to the stem, we need to determine if such foods as chicken/fish is to be added to her diet to increase the HDL. As per option B, HDL's benefit is strictly due to its effect on LDL levels. Since her LDL levels are already within the range, addition of HDL won't be largely beneficial to her. For good health of the heart, her levels are already in place so addition of such foods won't be a huge factor.

As per your reasoning, she can go ahead and add such foods to her diet.

Wanted to know the flaw in my reasoning.


Hi warriorguy,

The flaw in your thinking is that she doesn't want to eat those foods. She would have consumed them to get her HDL higher, but if she doesn't have to then she won't. She is healthy, and therefore will stick to her plant-based diet.

Does this help?
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Hi Experts,

I have a basic question on handling "evaluate" type of arguments such as this one.

Nandipa wishes to maintain her heart health, strictly follows a plant-based diet and has successfully maintained her blood level of LDL, ''bad'' cholesterol at well within the range considered optimal for heart health. But She is worried that her blood of HDL, ''good'' cholesterol, is lower than is often considered optimal for heart health, and has thus considered consuming foods such as chicken or fish that would increase her blood level of this beneficial substance.

Here the conclusion is: has thus considered consuming foods such as chicken or fish that would increase her blood level of this beneficial substance.

However, the question stem mentions:
Which of the following, if true , should be most significant for Nandipa in determining whether to add such foods to her diet ?

Note that the statement in question stem is more generic (in general would adding such foods to her diet would help her maintain her heart health - her objective) than the conclusion (focuses on only HDL increase).

While, solving these questions, should we make the above distinction or just stay close to the question stem and forget the conclusion?


Hi sevenplusplus,

NEVER FORGET THE CONCLUSION. NEVER IGNORE THE CONCLUSION. Now that my caps are out of the way, what you have to remember is that the question is based a combination of background info., premises, and conclusions. We want to prove/disprove/qualify/ect. the conclusion. Please do not ignore the conclusion at any point in your studying.

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I agree that B is the best answer by far, I just want to comment that I consider option D as second best or correct version, if B were not there...
I mean - the girl is a plant diet and that is what exactly happened to her - both type of cholesterol are low now and if only option B were not there, then it would make sense to add some light meat there..
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Hey abhimahna / GMATNinja

can you explain the reason to eliminate option D?

if both good and bad cholesterol go down because of plant-based of diets, then eating food such as chicken or fish would be beneficial to counter the effect of plant-based diet on good cholesterol

Hence I marked D. can you let me know your thoughts here?
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for me, prethinking, initiated by e-gmat is great. whenever i see a strengthen, weaken, assumpation evaluate and flaw question-most cr questions, i can do pre thinking before going to answer choices.

prethinking take you to a position closer to the correct answer or someting takes you to the position in which the correct answer is in. so, prethinking is great.

for this problem, my prethinking is

dose eating fish and increasing hdl cause any other harm? is there any balance between harm and benifit of hdl. my mind now focus on harm and benifit of hdl. because i think this way before goint to answer choices, i am closer to the correct choice

choice b state that the benifit of hdl is just its effect on ldl. my mind is focused on benefit already. and now i realize this choice b is correct.

gmat want us to have ability to criticize. so, we practice prethinking criticization. if gmat place correct answer close to the position we prethink, we have easy answer. if gmac place a correct answer far from what we prethink, we have hard question. in any case, we have to prethink

gmac want prethinking because in business world, we allway have to prethink before a business situation. do we should continues to invest or sell or buy companies. all of this require us prethinking before going to solutions.
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