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Policy makers remain concerned about the prospect of inflation, although there are few signs of increasing energy prices driving up the cost of other goods so far.

A) remain concerned about the prospect of inflation, although there are few signs of increasing energy prices driving up the cost of other goods so far

B) still remain concerned about the prospects of inflation; there are as yet few signs that increasing energy prices are currently driving up the cost of other goods

C) remain concerned about the prospect for inflation, even though as yet few signs of higher energy prices are driving up the cost of other goods so far

D) still remain concerned about inflation, even though there are currently few signs that increasing energy prices drive up the cost of other goods

E) remain concerned about the prospect of inflation, despite the dearth of signs thus far that increasing energy prices are driving up the cost of other goods

Can someone please explain how option (E) is correct?

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Dear Experts,

Please explain why Option A is incorrect here.


It is awkward to have a long present participle phrase after signs of, rather we should use a short noun phrase or simply a noun.

For example, signs of increase in cost of other goods would be valid. Signs of what? - signs of increase.

However the usage signs of increasing energy prices driving up the cost of other goods so far is awkward. Signs of what? - we would not arrive at a clear answer.

However if we use signs that { a clause} , then entire clause depicts what the sign is, e.g., signs that increasing energy prices are driving up the cost of other goods so far would be correct.
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Policy makers remain concerned about the prospect of inflation, although there are few signs of increasing energy prices driving up the cost of other goods so far.
(A) remain concerned about the prospect of inflation, although there are few signs of increasing energy prices driving up the cost of other goods so far
(B) still remain concerned about the prospects of inflation; there are as yet few signs that increasing energy prices are currently driving up the cost of other goods
(C) remain concerned about the prospect for inflation, even though as yet few signs of higher energy prices are driving up the cost of other goods so far
(D) still remain concerned about inflation, even though there are currently few signs that increasing energy prices drive up the cost of other goods
(E) remain concerned about the prospect of inflation, despite the dearth of signs thus far that increasing energy prices are driving up the cost of other goods


I'm happy to help with this. :-)

First of all, when we say someone "remains concerned", this implies they have been concerned for a while and are still concerned. Adding the word "still" contributes absolutely no new information. The construction "still remains" is 100% redundant and always wrong. Therefore, right away, (B) & (D) are out.

This is a subtle grammar point. A proposition can have as its object an ordinary noun. A preposition can also have as its object the -ing form know as a gerund. In terms of the GMAT SC, it is illegal to have the construction: [preposition] + [noun] + [-ing form of verb]. For example, in answer choice (A),
...there are few signs of increasing energy prices driving up the cost of other goods so far
We are trying pack action into a prepositional phrase. If we want to describe action, we need a bonafide clause. This is why (A) is wrong.

(C) changes the meaning --- by saying "... few signs of higher energy prices are driving up the cost of other goods..." , it is suggesting that the "signs" are driving up the cost of the other goods. What the original sentence says, and what makes logical sense, is that the "higher energy prices" are driving up these costs. In swapping around the grammatical forms, (C) changes it something that is both different in meaning and illogical. (C) is wrong.

We have rejected the first four answers, so we hope (E) works! Fortunately, it does.
(E) Policy makers remain concerned about the prospect of inflation, despite the dearth of signs thus far that increasing energy prices are driving up the cost of other goods.
The action that (A) tried to cram into a prepositional phrase here appears correctly in a "that" clause with a full bonafide [noun] + [verb] structure: "that increasing energy prices are driving up the cost of other goods.
Everything is correct in this option.

Does all this make sense?

Mike :-)


Hi Mike,

I agree that Still is redundant in option D and option E is grammatically correct. But don't you think that in option E there is a subtle change in meaning? The original sentence says there are few signs and option E says lack of signs? Because of this i chose D. Please let me know your thoughts on this.
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mikemcgarry wrote:
grbjha wrote:
Policy makers remain concerned about the prospect of inflation, although there are few signs of increasing energy prices driving up the cost of other goods so far.
(A) remain concerned about the prospect of inflation, although there are few signs of increasing energy prices driving up the cost of other goods so far
(B) still remain concerned about the prospects of inflation; there are as yet few signs that increasing energy prices are currently driving up the cost of other goods
(C) remain concerned about the prospect for inflation, even though as yet few signs of higher energy prices are driving up the cost of other goods so far
(D) still remain concerned about inflation, even though there are currently few signs that increasing energy prices drive up the cost of other goods
(E) remain concerned about the prospect of inflation, despite the dearth of signs thus far that increasing energy prices are driving up the cost of other goods


I'm happy to help with this. :-)

First of all, when we say someone "remains concerned", this implies they have been concerned for a while and are still concerned. Adding the word "still" contributes absolutely no new information. The construction "still remains" is 100% redundant and always wrong. Therefore, right away, (B) & (D) are out.

This is a subtle grammar point. A proposition can have as its object an ordinary noun. A preposition can also have as its object the -ing form know as a gerund. In terms of the GMAT SC, it is illegal to have the construction: [preposition] + [noun] + [-ing form of verb]. For example, in answer choice (A),
...there are few signs of increasing energy prices driving up the cost of other goods so far
We are trying pack action into a prepositional phrase. If we want to describe action, we need a bonafide clause. This is why (A) is wrong.

(C) changes the meaning --- by saying "... few signs of higher energy prices are driving up the cost of other goods..." , it is suggesting that the "signs" are driving up the cost of the other goods. What the original sentence says, and what makes logical sense, is that the "higher energy prices" are driving up these costs. In swapping around the grammatical forms, (C) changes it something that is both different in meaning and illogical. (C) is wrong.

We have rejected the first four answers, so we hope (E) works! Fortunately, it does.
(E) Policy makers remain concerned about the prospect of inflation, despite the dearth of signs thus far that increasing energy prices are driving up the cost of other goods.
The action that (A) tried to cram into a prepositional phrase here appears correctly in a "that" clause with a full bonafide [noun] + [verb] structure: "that increasing energy prices are driving up the cost of other goods.
Everything is correct in this option.

Does all this make sense?

Mike :-)


Hi Mike,

I agree that Still is redundant in option D and option E is grammatically correct. But don't you think that in option E there is a subtle change in meaning? The original sentence says there are few signs and option E says lack of signs? Because of this i chose D. Please let me know your thoughts on this.


Hi, I'm not an expert but I think I can add my 2 cents about your concern.

As I read on Manhattan forum, it is advised that we should always attack an SC question under following criteria and order:
1/ Correct grammar
2/ Proper meaning
3/ Superior style - Concision

As per this question, option (D) has a clear grammar error, so it should be eliminated. Similarly, 3 choices (A), (B), and (C) have grammar problems as mentioned in previous post. Therefore, we are left with option (E) that has no grammar error, despite a subtle change in meaning.

(In another situation, if we eliminate only 3 choices because of grammar issues, then we should use meaning (then style) to continue to eliminate the 4th wrong choice.)

Hope this helps.

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New post 24 May 2017, 03:53
goforgmat wrote:
mikemcgarry wrote:
grbjha wrote:
Policy makers remain concerned about the prospect of inflation, although there are few signs of increasing energy prices driving up the cost of other goods so far.
(A) remain concerned about the prospect of inflation, although there are few signs of increasing energy prices driving up the cost of other goods so far
(B) still remain concerned about the prospects of inflation; there are as yet few signs that increasing energy prices are currently driving up the cost of other goods
(C) remain concerned about the prospect for inflation, even though as yet few signs of higher energy prices are driving up the cost of other goods so far
(D) still remain concerned about inflation, even though there are currently few signs that increasing energy prices drive up the cost of other goods
(E) remain concerned about the prospect of inflation, despite the dearth of signs thus far that increasing energy prices are driving up the cost of other goods


I'm happy to help with this. :-)

First of all, when we say someone "remains concerned", this implies they have been concerned for a while and are still concerned. Adding the word "still" contributes absolutely no new information. The construction "still remains" is 100% redundant and always wrong. Therefore, right away, (B) & (D) are out.

This is a subtle grammar point. A proposition can have as its object an ordinary noun. A preposition can also have as its object the -ing form know as a gerund. In terms of the GMAT SC, it is illegal to have the construction: [preposition] + [noun] + [-ing form of verb]. For example, in answer choice (A),
...there are few signs of increasing energy prices driving up the cost of other goods so far
We are trying pack action into a prepositional phrase. If we want to describe action, we need a bonafide clause. This is why (A) is wrong.

(C) changes the meaning --- by saying "... few signs of higher energy prices are driving up the cost of other goods..." , it is suggesting that the "signs" are driving up the cost of the other goods. What the original sentence says, and what makes logical sense, is that the "higher energy prices" are driving up these costs. In swapping around the grammatical forms, (C) changes it something that is both different in meaning and illogical. (C) is wrong.

We have rejected the first four answers, so we hope (E) works! Fortunately, it does.
(E) Policy makers remain concerned about the prospect of inflation, despite the dearth of signs thus far that increasing energy prices are driving up the cost of other goods.
The action that (A) tried to cram into a prepositional phrase here appears correctly in a "that" clause with a full bonafide [noun] + [verb] structure: "that increasing energy prices are driving up the cost of other goods.
Everything is correct in this option.

Does all this make sense?

Mike :-)


Hi Mike,

I agree that Still is redundant in option D and option E is grammatically correct. But don't you think that in option E there is a subtle change in meaning? The original sentence says there are few signs and option E says lack of signs? Because of this i chose D. Please let me know your thoughts on this.


Note that there is no "original meaning" vs "changed meaning" differentiation. Option (A) is just one of the 5 options and my probability, correct only 20% of the time. When we say that there are meaning issues, we mean "logical" vs "illogical meaning". I suggest you to check out our four part video for more on this: https://www.veritasprep.com/gmat/

Also, "few" and "dearth" imply pretty much the same thing - "hardly any"

I suggest you to check out this page for the "few", "a few" and "quite a few" distinction.
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Policy makers remain concerned about the prospect of inflation, although there are few signs of increasing energy prices driving up the cost of other goods so far.

(A) remain concerned about the prospect of inflation, although there are few signs of increasing energy prices driving up the cost of other goods so far

(B) still remain concerned about the prospects of inflation; there are as yet few signs that increasing energy prices are currently driving up the cost of other goods

(C) remain concerned about the prospect for inflation, even though as yet few signs of higher energy prices are driving up the cost of other goods so far

(D) still remain concerned about inflation, even though there are currently few signs that increasing energy prices drive up the cost of other goods

(E) remain concerned about the prospect of inflation, despite the lack of signs thus far that increasing energy prices are driving up the cost of other goods


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The meaning of this sentence is that policy makers are concerned about inflation, even though there are no signs that current trends in energy prices have yet caused any actual inflation. To convey this message effectively, the sentence should modify "signs" with a construction that refers to the act of driving up costs, and other descriptive elements (such as "so far" or an equivalent expression) should be placed in a location where it is clear what they are modifying. Finally, the sentence must explicitly express the contrast between the policy makers' concerns and the stated lack of signs in the current economy.

(A) "Of increasing energy prices driving" is not a correct construction; a prepositional phrase cannot have a noun + verb-ing construction as its object. To express this kind of reference — in which the entire following idea is the intended description of "signs" — a clause should be used. (Interpreted in a grammatically proper way, this sentence suggests that "signs of higher energy prices" are the things that could potentially drive up the cost of goods.) In addition, the placement of "so far" creates ambiguity; it could mean that there are, thus far, few signs (the intended meaning), but it could also mean that the energy prices are driving up the cost of other goods by a great deal (driving them up so far).

(B) The combination of "still" and "remain" is redundant; only one of these words is necessary. The combination of "as yet" and "currently" is also redundant. Additionally, by connecting the two clauses with a semicolon, the sentence fails to indicate the contrast between the policy makers' concerns and the lack of actual signs to warrant those concerns. Finally, inflation is a single prospect, so the plural "prospects" is inappropriate.

(C) In this sentence, the subject of "are driving up the cost…" is "signs (of higher energy prices)" — illogically suggesting that indicators of high energy prices, rather than high energy prices themselves, can drive up the cost of other goods. The use of both "as yet" and "so far" is redundant; only one of these construction should be used. Finally, "prospect for" is unidiomatic; the correct idiom is "prospect of".

(D) The combination of "still" and "remain" is redundant; only one of these words is necessary. The substitution of "inflation" for "prospect of inflation" creates an unacceptable change in meaning; this choice suggests that inflation is actually happening in the economy, rather than the originally intended meaning (experts are concerned that it could happen). Finally, the present tense "drive up" is illogical. That tense suggests a general, permanently true fact about the economy; in other words, this wording means that there isn't much evidence that increasing energy prices drive up the cost of goods in general. The intended meaning is that the cost of goods is not being driven up at the current moment, so the present progressive "are driving" should be used instead.

(E) CORRECT. This choice uses a concise, non-redundant construction ("remain concerned") to express the analysts' state of mind. The sentence uses "despite" to express the contrast between that concern and the lack of explicit signs to warrant it. Finally, "thus far" is placed in a location where its meaning is clear — there are few signs thus far — and the clause "that … prices are driving…" is properly used to describe "signs".

The correct answer is E.
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Policy makers remain concerned about the prospect of inflation, although there are few signs of increasing energy prices driving up the cost of other goods so far.

(A) remain concerned about the prospect of inflation, although there are few signs of increasing energy prices driving up the cost of other goods so far

(B) still remain concerned about the prospects of inflation; there are as yet few signs that increasing energy prices are currently driving up the cost of other goods

(C) remain concerned about the prospect for inflation, even though as yet few signs of higher energy prices are driving up the cost of other goods so far

(D) still remain concerned about inflation, even though there are currently few signs that increasing energy prices drive up the cost of other goods

(E) remain concerned about the prospect of inflation, despite the lack of signs thus far that increasing energy prices are driving up the cost of other goods
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