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Porcupines shooting their quills is a common misconception, but the quills still pose a serious threat, and it can be difficult to remove them because each one has up to 800 backward-facing barbs that act as grappling hooks after they pierce skin.


A. Porcupines shooting their quills is a common misconception, but the quills still pose a serious threat, and it can be difficult to remove them because each one has up to 800 backward-facing barbs that act as grappling hooks after they pierce skin

B. Porcupines shooting their quills is a common misconception, but the quills still pose a serious threat because they can be difficult to remove since each one has up to 800 backward-facing barbs that act as grappling hooks after they pierce skin.

C. That a porcupine can shoot its quills is a common misconception, but the quills still pose a serious threat because each quill has up to 800 backward-facing barbs that act as grappling hooks after they pierce skin.

D. Contrary to popular belief, porcupines do not actually shoot their quills, but the quills still pose a serious threat: each quill has up to 800 backward-facing barbs that act as grappling hooks after they pierce skin, which makes removing the quills difficult.

E. Contrary to popular belief, porcupines do not actually shoot their quills, even though each quill has up to 800 backward-facing barbs that act as grappling hooks after they pierce skin and that still pose a serious threat.

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I am confused about D. Why is D wrong.

I was torn between E and De, and finally went with D.
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A) 'shooting their quills' works as a present participle. it defines porcupines, and porcupines are not misconceptions. also, 'it can be difficult to remove them' is unnecessarily wordy. eliminate A.

B) though slightly better than A, it has the same participle problem. eliminate B.

C) what is a misconception? "that" is a misconception. elaborate on that "that", "that a porcupine can shoot its quills". seems weird, but grammatically correct.

D) wordy but seems better than C. almost opted for this, but then realized "skin, which makes removing the quills difficult." skin is not the thing that makes the removing action difficult. wrong modifier. eliminate D.

E) shooting quills has no logical connection with having 800 barbs. therefore, usage of even though doesn't make sense. weird structure overall. eliminate E.
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In option C, is they refer to quills or barbs?
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In option C, is they refer to quills or barbs?


They is ambiguous in all options. I have read in forums that some ambiguity is allowed.
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My 2 cents.

A) 'shooting their quills' works as a present participle. it defines porcupines, and porcupines are not misconceptions. also, 'it can be difficult to remove them' is unnecessarily wordy. eliminate A.

B) though slightly better than A, it has the same participle problem. eliminate B.

C) what is a misconception? "that" is a misconception. elaborate on that "that", "that a porcupine can shoot its quills". seems weird, but grammatically correct.

D) wordy but seems better than C. almost opted for this, but then realized "skin, which makes removing the quills difficult." skin is not the thing that makes the removing action difficult. wrong modifier. eliminate D.

E) shooting quills has no logical connection with having 800 barbs. therefore, usage of even though doesn't make sense. weird structure overall. eliminate E.
Excellent explanation. You nailed it
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Isn't C incomplete even though it is gramatically correct? It lacks the 'removing of the quills' part. In that case, should we choose C over any other answer choice?

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Porcupines shooting their quills is a common misconception, but the quills still pose a serious threat, and it can be difficult to remove them because each one has up to 800 backward-facing barbs that act as grappling hooks after they pierce skin.

A. Porcupines shooting their quills is a common misconception, but the quills still pose a serious threat, and it can be difficult to remove them because each one has up to 800 backward-facing barbs that act as grappling hooks after they pierce skin - meaning issue - "but the quills still pose a serious threat, and it can be difficult to remove them" ; the quills pose a serious threat because it can be difficult to remove them ; "Porcupines shooting their quills" seems awkward

B. Porcupines shooting their quills is a common misconception, but the quills still pose a serious threat because they can be difficult to remove since each one has up to 800 backward-facing barbs that act as grappling hooks after they pierce skin. - "Porcupines shooting their quills" seems awkward

C. That a porcupine can shoot its quills is a common misconception, but the quills still pose a serious threat because each quill has up to 800 backward-facing barbs that act as grappling hooks after they pierce skin. - Correct

D. Contrary to popular belief, porcupines do not actually shoot their quills, but the quills still pose a serious threat: each quill has up to 800 backward-facing barbs that act as grappling hooks after they pierce skin, which makes removing the quills difficult. - incorrect usage of which

E. Contrary to popular belief, porcupines do not actually shoot their quills, even though each quill has up to 800 backward-facing barbs that act as grappling hooks after they pierce skin and that still pose a serious threat. - the second that refers to barbs, whereas the meaning conveyed should be that quills pose a serious threat

Answer C


1. Can you please provide a concrete reason(s) to eliminate option B?
2. Also, in the OA-C , "the difficulty to remove" part is not present.

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“Porcupines shooting their quills is a misconception”....

Porcupine is not the misconception.You can say “is” refers to the phrase “porcupines shooting their quills” but misconception is incorrect here.A fact can be a misconception.Not an phrase(action)or a noun(porcupine).

For a similar question see the SC question “a study of food resources in the north pacific”.See Rons explanations very thoroughly (either in the video or on manhattan prep forum)...

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1. Can you please provide a concrete reason(s) to eliminate option B?
One way to get rid of B: the phrase Porcupines shooting their quills is is not quite the same as Porcupines' shooting their quills is. In the original, we are almost certainly looking at Porcupines (plural) as the subject for the verb is (singular) as shooting their quills is just a modifier. If the option had included the possessive, it'd have been easier to consider shooting a gerund.
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In addition what you said.

1. C perhaps changes the original intent. No one is bothered about whether a porcupine can shoot or cannot shoot the quills.

I would deem B to be better because Pronoun reference leaves no ambiguity in it. Both the 'they' refer to the quills. They cannot refer to 'each one ' because of basic SV error.

But how is A changing the meaning? It is ultimately the quills that pose the threat because it is not the barbs or the hooks that pierce the skin.

Let's wait for the OE.
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How is B better than C ?

I think that in B , "Porcupines [.... ] is a common misconception" is not possible. Porcupines cannot be a misconception.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

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Both 'Porcupines shooting their quills' in A and B are substantive phrases that are noun phrases acting as a singular noun. This might clear the doubt why 'is' is the singular verb.

Therefore parsing porcupines separately from the noun phrase is erroneous.

I have already said why is C is poor in comparison to B.
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