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Ok, so if "that" refers to a noun before it, then it doesn't have to take a singular or a plural form but if "that" replaces the noun before it then it has to be singular. Is my understanding is correct??
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Hi Kritisood,

Yes, that's correct. If a that is used to describe a noun before it, it doesn't have a plural form.
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Ok, so if "that" refers to a noun before it, then it doesn't have to take a singular or a plural form but if "that" replaces the noun before it then it has to be singular. Is my understanding is correct??
Hi Kritisood,

Yes, that's correct. If a that is used to describe a noun before it, it doesn't have a plural form.
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i have a question in option B

"...that emotions, including those deemed personal or private, are social phenomena that are inseparable from bodily response"

here that refers to "social phenomena" or "emotions" ?
since that should logically refer back to noun preceding it could logically refer to any one of these, so wont it be an ambiguity?
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i have a question in option B

"...that emotions, including those deemed personal or private, are social phenomena that are inseparable from bodily response"

here that refers to "social phenomena" or "emotions" ?
since that should logically refer back to noun preceding it could logically refer to any one of these, so wont it be an ambiguity?
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Hi Montyyy95,

The first that refers to the argument.

The second that refers to social phenomena. Think about it this way: the sentence does not restrict the emotions being discussed to those that are "inseparable from bodily response". Instead, it says that all emotions (including personal/private emotions) are social phenomena. Which social phenomena? The ones that are inseparable from bodily response.
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Recent interdisciplinary studies advance the argument that emotions, including those deemed personal or private is a social phenomenon, though one inseparable from bodily response.


(A) private is a social phenomenon, though one inseparable

(B) private, are social phenomena that are inseparable

(C) private are a social phenomenon but are not those inseparable

(D) private—are social phenomena but not separable

(E) also as private emotions, are social phenomena not inseparable


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In choice
(B) private, are social phenomena that are inseparable

Shoudn't we use 'is' for social phenomena?

Can anyone clear this doubt?
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(B) private, are social phenomena that are inseparable

Shoudn't we use 'is' for social phenomena?

Can anyone clear this doubt?
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Believe it or nor, phenomena is plural!

Singular is phenomenon.
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Recent interdisciplinary studies advance the argument that emotions, including those deemed personal or private is a social phenomenon, though one inseparable from bodily response.


(A) private is a social phenomenon, though one inseparable

(B) private, are social phenomena that are inseparable

(C) private are a social phenomenon but are not those inseparable

(D) private—are social phenomena but not separable

(E) also as private emotions, are social phenomena not inseparable


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As per my understanding, there can be two possible meaning of this sentence:

1) Emotions are a social phenomena, and it is inseparable from bodily response.
(Here, we are clearly talking about emotions being a social phenomena as well as indifferent from bodily response.)

2) Emotions are a social phenomena that is inseparable from bodily response.
(Here, it says that emotions are a social phenomena. Social phenomena that are inseparable from bodily response.)
At first, we are only talking about emotions, whereas, in the second part, we are adding information about social phenomena using 'that' before it.



If the intended meaning was the second sentence, then option B was absolutely correct. But if the intended meaning was the first sentence, the option B does not sound accurate. I got confused because I found B correct but I did not understand the meaning of this sentence logically. I chose B instinctively within 40 seconds. What is the core of this sentence out of the above two sentences I mentioned?
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Hello kadamhari825,

This is in response to your PM.

You asked: hello expert,

in option B 'that 'is referring immediate noun social phenomena and it does not make any sense . Am i correct in reasoning? please correct me IF I AM WORONG.

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I am afraid to say that you are wrong. Choice B is the correct answer. There is nothing incorrect about this choice. In this choice, the noun modifier "that" does refer to the preceding noun "social phenomena". This modification is correct because according to the sentence, emotions = social phenomena. So, technically, "emotions" are inseparable from bodily response.


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Hi AjiteshArun

In this article, the example at the end eliminates options B and D because " "that” is used as a placeholder for “eggs” hence we need to use “those” – the plural form – here."

Here that refers to something before it (eggs) but still it's wrong. Could you please throw some light?

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Hi Kritisood,

Good question! The difference is that the that which doesn't have a plural form is the one which refers to a noun before it, not one which replaces a noun (what you've referred to as a "placeholder"). For example:

1. A question that is difficult usually takes more time to solve. ← Here the that refers to "a question". It cannot, however, be replaced by the noun "question" ("a question question is difficult usually takes more time to solve").

2a. The evidence found in his phone was stronger than that found in his home. ← Here the that does not "refer" to the first evidence, in the sense that it actually introduces an entirely new second evidence.
2b. The evidence found in his phone was stronger than the evidence found in his home. ← We can even replace the that with evidence.

So, a that that refers to (describes) a noun before it can refer to both singular and plural nouns, and does not have a plural form.

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Ok, so if "that" refers to a noun before it, then it doesn't have to take a singular or a plural form but if "that" replaces the noun before it then it has to be singular. Is my understanding is correct??
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Hi Kritisood not an expert but the two cases of "that" you refered play different function.
1. That table over the corner costs $500 - That here is demonstrattive adjective
2. The Juice that doesnot contains added preservatives tastes liike water (Just saying) - That here is relative pronoun and introduces a relative clause
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Regarding option D, are there any other issues apart from the dash?

If we replace the dash with a comma, will option d be correct? Or is there still an issue with the part after but
i.e. "but not separable" vs "but are not separable" (is 'are' implied in the former?)

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Here,
",including those deemed personal or private" is a modifier, so need to end it with ","
(A), (C), (D) are eliminated (in D, the start is with "," and the end is with "-") - incorrect
In (E) its parallelism error "deemed personal or also as private emotions...." - incorrect

Therefore answer: (B)
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Recent interdisciplinary studies advance the argument that emotions, including those deemed personal or private is a social phenomenon, though one inseparable from bodily temperature.

A) private is a social phenomenon,though one inseparable
B) private,are social phenomena that are inseparable
C) private are a social phenomenon but are not those inseparable
D) private –are social phenomena but are not separable
E) also as private emotions, are social phenomena not inseparable

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'Emotions' needs plural 'are'. A is out

We do need contrast in the sentence; however, we need to mention that emotions are social phenomenon that are not separable from bodily temperature. C and D are out

'also' is redundant with 'or' in option E.

B is the right option.
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if we use "but" in choice d, the meaning is that social phenomena are normally separable. this meaning is not logical. we dont need any contrast inhere. we need to identify a subset of the social phenamena and use relative clause.
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In option B, what is 'that' referring to. Isn't 'that' referring to social phenomenon
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In option B, what is 'that' referring to. Isn't 'that' referring to social phenomenon
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Hello vidyasagar151,

We hope this finds you well.

Having gone through the question and your query, we believe we can resolve your doubt.

In this sentence "that" does, indeed, refer to "social phenomenon".

We hope this helps.
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Could you explain what does that are inseparable modify? At first I thought it was incorrectly modifying phenomena.
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What's the meaning of this sentence?

Emotions are social phenomena that are inseparable from bodily response.
Emotions are inseparable or phenomena are inseparable?

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What's the meaning of this sentence?

Emotions are social phenomena that are inseparable from bodily response.
Emotions are inseparable or phenomena are inseparable?

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'that are inseparable from bodily response' is an essential modifier for 'social phenomena.'
The sentence tells us that 'emotions' are a kind of 'social phenomena.' What kind of social phenomena? Social phenomena that are inseparable from bodily response. So likely there are some social phenomena that are separable from bodily response but emotions are the social phenomena that are inseparable.
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