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17 Jul 2011, 18:47
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Thank you Crick, let me try to Google strategy for number props. Probability/Combi - still need to figure that one out lol. And yeah, just wrote MGAT 3 yesterday and verbal hit 44 so feeling good about that.
RC was my strength first two times, but I got 5 RC wrong this time (4 CR, 1 SC). Need some core strategy on how to crack RC.

Glad to be of help. Your verbal score looks excellent. I too have some issues with RC. If you post the strategy you use for RC in the topic below , that would be very helpful to me. Thanks in advance.

http://gmatclub.com/forum/how-to-improve-my-rc-accuracy-117195.html#p948602

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23 Jul 2011, 07:34
Hello Everyone,

My issue is similar to what a lot of people have already mentioned in this thread.

I am a 28 year old entrepreneur from India with 6 years of work experience including 3 years of experience working as a SAP BI consultant and the reminder as the CEO of an Engineering Manufacturing Plant (Family Owned). I am also serving as a Director and stake holder in a Ferro Alloys Manufacturing Unit in India for the last 2 years. My GMAT score is 660 (Q49 and V31). My under-grad background is that of a Mechanical Engineer with a CGPA of 3.3

I am interested in joining the Full time MBA Program in some of the top 25 colleges. I was wondering if anyone can please provide me with an honest opinion if my GMAT score and background allows me a good chance to get into them or should I work towards improving my GMAT score. The colleges that I am looking at are Duke University (Fuqua) , University of Virginia (Darden) , Emory University (Goizueta) and University of North Carolina-Chapel Hill (Kenan-Flagler). Although I had aspirations to apply for a couple of top 10 B-schools but I dont think I have too much of a chance with my GMAT score.

My GMAT score of 660 is within the 80% range in most of the above universities (its usually 640-750, so rather on the lower edges) for the class of 2012(even some of the top 10 ones have taken 660 students). But I am really confused about my score in GMAT. Fistly, I have no idea where I messed up in verbal. My quant score was 49 but I knew I botched a couple of questions so I am not complaining but I dont 31 in quants and that was the lowest I ever got in any GMAT prep tests.My GMAT score was lower than anything I got in GMAT prep or Kaplan test or GMAT club tests (barring the 1st one I took to check my level).I have always scored more than 36 in verbal. Total score 670,710,690,690,730,740, in Kaplan tests and 640, 710, 730,740 in Gmat Prep.

Secondly, is my score is good enough to get me into a top 25 B-school or should I consider reappearing?

Any advices would be welcome coz at this point I am extremely confused coz if I miss the bus for 2012 session then my chances of MBA are a gone for good, so have to make it stick and reappearing is sticky because it will be hard for me to manage to reappear GMAT again,work on my applications and manage my professional commitments. But if I have to reappear GMAT I will do it.

Also, any idea where I can ask for my profile to be reviewed is also welcome.

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23 Jul 2011, 09:07
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Hello Everyone,

My issue is similar to what a lot of people have already mentioned in this thread.

I am a 28 year old entrepreneur from India with 6 years of work experience including 3 years of experience working as a SAP BI consultant and the reminder as the CEO of an Engineering Manufacturing Plant (Family Owned). I am also serving as a Director and stake holder in a Ferro Alloys Manufacturing Unit in India for the last 2 years. My GMAT score is 660 (Q49 and V31). My under-grad background is that of a Mechanical Engineer with a CGPA of 3.3

I am interested in joining the Full time MBA Program in some of the top 25 colleges. I was wondering if anyone can please provide me with an honest opinion if my GMAT score and background allows me a good chance to get into them or should I work towards improving my GMAT score. The colleges that I am looking at are Duke University (Fuqua) , University of Virginia (Darden) , Emory University (Goizueta) and University of North Carolina-Chapel Hill (Kenan-Flagler). Although I had aspirations to apply for a couple of top 10 B-schools but I dont think I have too much of a chance with my GMAT score.

My GMAT score of 660 is within the 80% range in most of the above universities (its usually 640-750, so rather on the lower edges) for the class of 2012(even some of the top 10 ones have taken 660 students). But I am really confused about my score in GMAT. Fistly, I have no idea where I messed up in verbal. My quant score was 49 but I knew I botched a couple of questions so I am not complaining but I got 31 in verbal and that was the lowest I ever got in any GMAT prep tests.My GMAT score was lower than anything I got in GMAT prep or Kaplan test or GMAT club tests (barring the 1st one I took to check my level).I have always scored more than 36 in verbal. Total score 670,710,690,690,730,740, in Kaplan tests and 640, 710, 730,740 in Gmat Prep.

Secondly, is my score is good enough to get me into a top 25 B-school or should I consider reappearing?

Any advices would be welcome coz at this point I am extremely confused coz if I miss the bus for 2012 session then my chances of MBA are a gone for good, so have to make it stick and reappearing is sticky because it will be hard for me to manage to reappear GMAT again,work on my applications and manage my professional commitments. But if I have to reappear GMAT I will do it.

Also, any idea where I can ask for my profile to be reviewed is also welcome.

Thank you

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I think you don't need to retake your GMAT. Don't misunderstand me - it would be great and helpful but based on what I have read, it does not sound it will be productive.
I would recommend a few things:
1. Get another opinion, perhaps from an admissions consultant here: admission-consultants-124/ they may be much more familiar with your schools and know reasons to or not to take the GMAT again.
2. Start working on the essays ASAP
3. Try improving your verbal on the back side by reading books, see GMAT Fiction list I put together. This will help you with proper English and essay writing and also should you finish your essays earlier, you can consider retaking and by that time hopefully your verbal level will be much stronger.

Bottom line, it is very possible to get in with your score but that depends on your Letters of Recommendation and your Essays, more so than the GMAT.

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24 Jul 2011, 21:22
Hi
I gave my GMAT on this Friday. I got a 680 (a bit disappointed)
I got 48 in Quant and 35 in Verbal.
I have a BE degree in Mechanical Engineering. I have worked in the Oil Field (Baker Hughes) for 3 years.
I am looking at Nanyang and York University (canada).
Do I need to give the GMAT again?

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24 Jul 2011, 21:24
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I gave my GMAT on this Friday. I got a 680 (a bit disappointed)
I got 48 in Quant and 35 in Verbal.
I have a BE degree in Mechanical Engineering. I have worked in the Oil Field (Baker Hughes) for 3 years.
I am looking at Nanyang and York University (canada).
Do I need to give the GMAT again?

Thanks
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You should be all set - even for HBS!
The only thing I would check is perhaps with admissions to see if they have a GMAT-based scholarships and if they feel you need a higher score to qualify (some schools do but most dont).
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26 Jul 2011, 12:13
Hi everyone,
I just took the GMAT and received a 720 with Q46 (73%) V42 (94%). Quant score is a little low relative to what I've been scoring on practice tests (48ish), so I'm wondering if its really worth going through the hassle of taking it again to try for those extra 2 points to get a nice 80/80 split? (I've been averaging 40ish on Verbal on the practice tests so I did better on that section)

The rest of my application is decent (great GPA, good work exp, no special ECs), and I'm looking to go to at least a 11-15 school like Darden/Cornell with Top 10 as a stretch. Any thoughts appreciated!
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01 Aug 2011, 11:04
Hi Experts,
I wrote my gmat exam two days before and ended up getting a 600 (48 Q, 25 v).I am still shattered because of getting such a low score.I have given around 30 mocks ,but never got less than 610 ( except for the Kaplan 2nd test ,in which I scored a 590).In fact ,before starting the preparation,only once I got a 610 in the diagnostic test.After that I put in a lot of effort continuously for two months, studying around six hours a day before taking the test. My Mgmat test scores( 650, 670, 630, 660) and kaplan CD test scores (620,590) were also decent in comparision with the actual score.Two days before taking the test I wrote the GMAT prep test-2 and scored a 740.In addition, I left one verbal questions unmarked during the actual test because of time constrain( I guess leaving a questions unmarked impacts the overall score).I felt that SC questions in the actual test were very strange (if not difficult) than those I had gone through and I did not spend too much time on them as I would have left with very less time for CRs and RCs.So I guess that it was majorly the Sentence correction protion,which I had mainly foused on during preparation, of the test that destroyed the party;though I am not very confident in saying that.
My academics are not very bad with X-80%,XII-80%,BE-72%.I have an overall experience of around 4 years with an MNC in the field of IT and have lot many things to decorate my essay ( white papers, have a BA degree in Music ,have a music band of my own,did some NGO work etc.)
I just want to ask whether I should retake the exam or just give it up.I have already gone through almost all of the important materials such as Manhattan(SC,CR, RC), power score CR bible, 1000 SC,1000 CR(left with a few of them).Now I am only left with the KAPLAN book to study.Please suggest whether I should take the test again or not.
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01 Aug 2011, 12:01
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Hi Experts,
I wrote my gmat exam two days before and ended up getting a 600 (48 Q, 25 v).I am still shattered because of getting such a low score.I have given around 30 mocks ,but never got less than 610 ( except for the Kaplan 2nd test ,in which I scored a 590).In fact ,before starting the preparation,only once I got a 610 in the diagnostic test.After that I put in a lot of effort continuously for two months, studying around six hours a day before taking the test. My Mgmat test scores( 650, 670, 630, 660) and kaplan CD test scores (620,590) were also decent in comparision with the actual score.Two days before taking the test I wrote the GMAT prep test-2 and scored a 740.In addition, I left one verbal questions unmarked during the actual test because of time constrain( I guess leaving a questions unmarked impacts the overall score).I felt that SC questions in the actual test were very strange (if not difficult) than those I had gone through and I did not spend too much time on them as I would have left with very less time for CRs and RCs.So I guess that it was majorly the Sentence correction protion,which I had mainly foused on during preparation, of the test that destroyed the party;though I am not very confident in saying that.
My academics are not very bad with X-80%,XII-80%,BE-72%.I have an overall experience of around 4 years with an MNC in the field of IT and have lot many things to decorate my essay ( white papers, have a BA degree in Music ,have a music band of my own,did some NGO work etc.)
I just want to ask whether I should retake the exam or just give it up.I have already gone through almost all of the important materials such as Manhattan(SC,CR, RC), power score CR bible, 1000 SC,1000 CR(left with a few of them).Now I am only left with the KAPLAN book to study.Please suggest whether I should take the test again or not.

At this point it is probably about the score you realistically need. What schools are you applying to? If 600 is within 80% of the spread, then you are fine.
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01 Aug 2011, 21:27
Hi BB,
I am not sure if with a score of 600 I can apply to any of the good colleges(Even though .My expectations were somewhere between 650 and 700.I think 600 is not even near to the cut-off of any of the colleges I had targeted for and even the best of the applications can not balance such a poor score.what say?

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02 Aug 2011, 07:43
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Hi Experts,
I wrote my gmat exam two days before and ended up getting a 600 (48 Q, 25 v).I am still shattered because of getting such a low score.I have given around 30 mocks ,but never got less than 610 ( except for the Kaplan 2nd test ,in which I scored a 590).In fact ,before starting the preparation,only once I got a 610 in the diagnostic test.After that I put in a lot of effort continuously for two months, studying around six hours a day before taking the test. My Mgmat test scores( 650, 670, 630, 660) and kaplan CD test scores (620,590) were also decent in comparision with the actual score.Two days before taking the test I wrote the GMAT prep test-2 and scored a 740.In addition, I left one verbal questions unmarked during the actual test because of time constrain( I guess leaving a questions unmarked impacts the overall score).I felt that SC questions in the actual test were very strange (if not difficult) than those I had gone through and I did not spend too much time on them as I would have left with very less time for CRs and RCs.So I guess that it was majorly the Sentence correction protion,which I had mainly foused on during preparation, of the test that destroyed the party;though I am not very confident in saying that.
My academics are not very bad with X-80%,XII-80%,BE-72%.I have an overall experience of around 4 years with an MNC in the field of IT and have lot many things to decorate my essay ( white papers, have a BA degree in Music ,have a music band of my own,did some NGO work etc.)
I just want to ask whether I should retake the exam or just give it up.I have already gone through almost all of the important materials such as Manhattan(SC,CR, RC), power score CR bible, 1000 SC,1000 CR(left with a few of them).Now I am only left with the KAPLAN book to study.Please suggest whether I should take the test again or not.

abhishek1234,

Sorry to hear that. After much studying, I think you'll realize that doing well on the GMAT is not about doing thousands of questions. Sure--several hundred is good practice. But if you're still not improving after a thousand--then clearly there's something in your thought process that needs to be changed.

When you say "now I am only left with the Kaplan book"--I get the sense that you're not on the right track. It's not about exhausting all books.

This is a critical reasoning logical fallacy.
You seem to be thinking: "If I go through all books --> then I will ace GMAT"

This is not right! You can go through all books and still not reach your goal. Recognizing this train of thought is also important for doing well on the CR section.

What you need to do is change the way you think.

Once you learn how to think differently--you'll be able to go back to all those thousands of questions and re-attempt those in a timed condition.

Lastly, since you say you did well on the practice tests but not as well on the actual---consider the importance of psychology and timing strategies on the actual exam.

Hope that helps. And remember, we're here to help.
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I, like so many others on this thread, am struggling with whether or not I should rewrite the GMAT. I took the exam on August 2, and scored a 680, which was much lower than I was expecting based on my practice exams which typically were between 720-750. I got a 44 on the quant section (lower than expected) and 40 on the verbal (expected). I am still waiting for my AWA report but expect that they should be adequate.

Although I know that this is an above average score I am struggling because I really want to apply to the top tier B-schools in the states, including HBS's 2+2 program, whose average GMAT score is around 720!

That being said, I also have a very high GPA (3.9+), am female (not sure if this gives me a demographic advantage or not), will graduate a double major in mathematics and philosophy from a top undergraduate Canadian university, research experience, paper publications, and a number of undergraduate scholarships and awards.

Also, I understand that you need to have 31 days between rewrites? Or is it just once per month maximum? Because the only possible date in September I can write is the 1st, since I have to return to my studies, and my university is not located near a testing centre. So having written on Aug 2, would I be allowed to even register for an exam on Sept 1?

Any advice? To rewrite or not to rewrite... that is the question!
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Also, I understand that you need to have 31 days between rewrites? Or is it just once per month maximum? Because the only possible date in September I can write is the 1st, since I have to return to my studies, and my university is not located near a testing centre. So having written on Aug 2, would I be allowed to even register for an exam on Sept 1?

Any advice? To rewrite or not to rewrite... that is the question!

Yes, you need to have 31 days, so September 3rd is the earliest day for you to re-take.
The usual decision hinges on the question - can you use the time until September 3rd for a greater good for your application? Can you work on essays and get move value/strength added to the app than you would have if you studied for the GMAT?

Some people retake and get a 50 point bump but some don't (you can see that from the threads). There is no guarantee with or without studying. The key is - do you need that time. If not and you have a $250 sitting around, then by all means. _________________ Founder of GMAT Club US News Rankings progression - last 10 years in a snapshot - New! Just starting out with GMAT? Start here... Need GMAT Book Recommendations? 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And im pretty sure it was because of cr & rc more than sc Im looking to apply to universities ranked 9-16(roughly) on the us mba rankings The rest of my profile is as follows: 1) Electronics engineer from India. 2) Worked at infosys for 8 months. 3) Started my own company after that and will have worked in the company for arnd 1yr 4months by the time I plan on starting b-school Any advice?? Thanks and regards, Ayush Agarwal Last edited by agarwalayush on 06 Aug 2011, 09:31, edited 1 time in total. Founder Affiliations: AS - Gold, HH-Diamond Joined: 04 Dec 2002 Posts: 14548 Location: United States (WA) GMAT 1: 750 Q49 V42 GPA: 3.5 Followers: 3787 Kudos [?]: 23632 [0], given: 4554 Re: Should I Retake GMAT Thread - Retaking GMAT Strategies [#permalink] ### Show Tags 06 Aug 2011, 09:30 agarwalayush wrote: Hi, I was hoping you could help me out with my decision on whether to retake the GMAT. I just it and got an overall 710, quant 50 and verbal 35. In my practice tests I was always around the 740 mark with q48-49 and v42. Verbal totally screwed me up. And im pretty sure it was because of cr & rc more than sc The rest of my profile is as follows: 1) Electronics engineer from India. 2) Worked at infosys for 8 months. 3) Started my own company after that and will have worked in the company for arnd 1yr 4months by the time I plan on starting b-school Any advice?? Thanks and regards, Ayush Agarwal I think you omitted the schools you are trying to apply to. That is one missing piece of info. Also, you may want to get a free consultation from admissions consultants on this as well _________________ Founder of GMAT Club US News Rankings progression - last 10 years in a snapshot - New! Just starting out with GMAT? Start here... Need GMAT Book Recommendations? 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However, you do have an Indian Tech Background, which means you will be competing against a pretty large applicant base with your background. If you have a good story then I would not bother but if your story/applications are not very strong, you may want to consider retaking in a month (at least to put an end to the doubts). As they always say, retaking really depends on you being able to use the time better. Many feel that for the top 20, an increase from 710 to 760 may not be worth it but if you are done with your essays or not planning to spend too much time studying, then it may be worth it. _________________ Founder of GMAT Club US News Rankings progression - last 10 years in a snapshot - New! Just starting out with GMAT? Start here... Need GMAT Book Recommendations? 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06 Aug 2011, 10:42
Thanks a lot for the help. Ill also write to a few of the universities im applying to, to check their views on retaking the gmat.
Also, one last question - Do I have to wait the an entire 31 day period or am I allowed to give the exam as soon as the next calendar month begins??
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