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Dear John,

I would like to know whether I have chances with GPA 3.2
My GMAT will be somewhat close to 730 with Quant 50+
I am on third year and I apply on October to Marshall Business School, Business Analytcs. Please read my brief story to understand whether I have an excuse for such a low GPA

So here is my brief story. When I entered the University (BA in Business) it all started well, but since the mid-November (1 year) I kept getting ill all the time, I lost the weight, concentration. My average temperature during that time was 37.5, but I didn't bother going to doctor. Moreover, I was so bad that I even had to skip one of my final exams and failed. The next semester nothing changed - only strange rash appeared on my skin and finally in early March I woke up and realised that I cannot move my legs and hands and I had to lie in the bed paralysed for more than 4 hours until my roommate came and called for an ambulance. It turned out that I had Vasculitis (very rare and dangerous illness) and I spent 2 weeks in the Hospital. For that reason, I performed poorly that semester and failed 2 out 4 classes. I got on probation, an event that had such a discouraging effect on me that I didn't even attend most of the classes the next semester and a half until one day I realised that it cannot continue this way so I started studying. My GPA for the last 2 semesters ( I have still 2 semesters but I apply on October) is 3.8and that is under extra pressure (I had to take 2 more classes each semester to catch up and graduate on time)

I would like to know whether my illness may be an excuse for the low GPA and whether 3.8 of Upper-Level GPA will be considered?
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Jon,

Please let me know your thoughts on this:

My undergrad GPA is 6.4 on a scale of 10 from a Top 15 school in India. Though my GPA is highest in the final year, it doesn't follow a fixed trend. I am planning to retake my GMAT, expecting a score in the range of 710-740.

I am a professional Chess player and also a registered online chess coach. My GPA dropped due to my heavy participation heavily in Inter State and National Level Chess Tournaments. In my final year of undergrad, I was involved in my ChessBase startup, where I worked for one year after undergrad. I have even undertaken lots of activities in the Non Profit sector to spread my love for the game. Should I use these in the optional essay to mitigate my low GPA?

I am also planning to take the online course from MBAMath.com. Does this step make sense provided that I am expecting a Quant score of 50 in GMAT?

Thank you in advance.
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Jon,

Please let me know your thoughts on this:

My undergrad GPA is 6.4 on a scale of 10 from a Top 15 school in India. Though my GPA is highest in the final year, it doesn't follow a fixed trend. I am planning to retake my GMAT, expecting a score in the range of 710-740.

I am a professional Chess player and also a registered online chess coach. My GPA dropped due to my heavy participation heavily in Inter State and National Level Chess Tournaments. In my final year of undergrad, I was involved in my ChessBase startup, where I worked for one year after undergrad. I have even undertaken lots of activities in the Non Profit sector to spread my love for the game. Should I use these in the optional essay to mitigate my low GPA?

I am also planning to take the online course from MBAMath.com. Does this step make sense provided that I am expecting a Quant score of 50 in GMAT?

Thank you in advance.

I think you can drop the idea of taking the online course, unless you want to for other reasons. It probably won't help your profile out at all, and your time is likely better invested in working on your applications at this point.

Hope this helps!
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Dear John,

I would like to know whether I have chances with GPA 3.2
My GMAT will be somewhat close to 730 with Quant 50+
I am on third year and I apply on October to Marshall Business School, Business Analytcs. Please read my brief story to understand whether I have an excuse for such a low GPA

So here is my brief story. When I entered the University (BA in Business) it all started well, but since the mid-November (1 year) I kept getting ill all the time, I lost the weight, concentration. My average temperature during that time was 37.5, but I didn't bother going to doctor. Moreover, I was so bad that I even had to skip one of my final exams and failed. The next semester nothing changed - only strange rash appeared on my skin and finally in early March I woke up and realised that I cannot move my legs and hands and I had to lie in the bed paralysed for more than 4 hours until my roommate came and called for an ambulance. It turned out that I had Vasculitis (very rare and dangerous illness) and I spent 2 weeks in the Hospital. For that reason, I performed poorly that semester and failed 2 out 4 classes. I got on probation, an event that had such a discouraging effect on me that I didn't even attend most of the classes the next semester and a half until one day I realised that it cannot continue this way so I started studying. My GPA for the last 2 semesters ( I have still 2 semesters but I apply on October) is 3.8and that is under extra pressure (I had to take 2 more classes each semester to catch up and graduate on time)

I would like to know whether my illness may be an excuse for the low GPA and whether 3.8 of Upper-Level GPA will be considered?

Well it's a good explanation for sure. It doesn't change your GPA, but if you tell them this story plus bring proof of a strong GMAT, I think you should be able to do quite well.

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Hello

I have a question regarding Wharton application. I took GMAT this year (which I would like to be considered as my score). I also have an old GRE score (from 2014), which is low as I didn't prepare for it at all, and which I can not cancel

Wharton asks a question if I have taken GRE, it is obligatory question and if I say Yes, I must submit my scores. What if I don't want to submit my GRE results? Can I just answer No?

What is best to do in this situation? (My GMAT is a bit lower than average, I am already addressing this... Having a super low GRE on my application in addition to GMAT won't exactly be helpful)

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Unfortunately you need to be honest about it - if they found out you lied on an application it could result in an automatic ding. That said, you can trust that schools will take your highest score (on either test) so it shouldn't hurt you - they should just take your GMAT score and not penalize you for the GRE.

You could also try contacting the school & let them know you don't want your GRE to be considered & see if there is any option to say yes to that question w/o submitting the score.
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Hello everyone!

NEED HELP!

I have gone through a lot of articles regarding how a low gpa hampers your chances of getting into a top B school, but i still haven't found what i am looking for. As far as i know, the reason top b schools want you to have a good gpa is that they basically want to know whether the candidate has a quantitative mind. So if a student doesn't have that, the schools encourage students to take a few courses that will be able to demonstrate their quantitative ability. i am not saying the if you don't know how to handle math, you won't be able to do well in your MBA. All i am saying is that math seems to be one of the major pieces of the academic perspective of an MBA.

I am a math graduate ( Bachelor of Science in Mathematics) from Delhi University, which is a tier 1 university as per my knowledge. Seems pretty heavy right? hehe :D . The only problem is that my overall gpa is 2.3 on a scale of 4. Though my final year gpa is an 3.20 on a scale of 4, top 5, if not top 3, in my batch. I have done really well in subjects such as Differential Calculus and mathematical modelling, Probability and statistics, mathematical analysis etc etc. I clearly am pretty okay/confident when it comes to math. i haven't given my gmat yet, but will try my level best to cross the 730 mark. I do understand the fact that both the gmat and the gpa are not the only pieces of the puzzle, but they do seem important as they not only create a certain perception, but also help the adcoms in understanding how the candidate will handle the academic rigour. Rest depends on the essays and obviously the work ex.

So what sort of an impact a math degree with a low overall gpa, but a good final year gpa, from a tier 1 university will have? What are the consequences that i am looking at?

i am looking at LBS , INSEAD , Oxford, IESE , Cambridge , ISB
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24 yrs old Indian female. Completed B.E. in electrical engg from a top 10 indian non-IIT college with 8.4 GPA in 2018.
I have total 2.5 yrs work ex (1 yr in a fortune 500 O & G company as electrical engg + 1.5 yr in a top life insurance company as business analyst). Extracurricular= involved with a renowned origami club, writing blog on movie, playing guitar as hobby. Anticipated GMAT score= 730+
I will apply in round 2 for MBA/ MiM/ whatever course available. Pls suggest universities -- 1st preference US, 2nd preference europe. I am okay with any kind of specialisation or field post MBA.

Pls provide two separate list of colleges where I should apply for R1 or R2 respectively.

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Hi Jon,

24 yrs old Indian female. Completed B.E. in electrical engg from a top 10 indian non-IIT college with 8.4 GPA in 2018.
I have total 2.5 yrs work ex (1 yr in a fortune 500 O & G company as electrical engg + 1.5 yr in a top life insurance company as business analyst). Extracurricular= involved with a renowned origami club, writing blog on movie, playing guitar as hobby. Anticipated GMAT score= 730+
I will apply in round 2 for MBA/ MiM/ whatever course available. Pls suggest universities -- 1st preference US, 2nd preference europe. I am okay with any kind of specialisation or field post MBA.

Pls provide two separate list of colleges where I should apply for R1 or R2 respectively.
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rimban2295:

Sorry this is coming at you slightly late. Have you applied or did you push back a year?

Potential schools in the US: Kellogg, Yale SOM, Duke Fuqua, UVA Darden, Michigan Ross, MIT Sloan

Potential schools in EU: Cambridge Judge, Oxford Said, HEC, INSEAD

That's a very rough list with the potential to increase or decrease its difficulty depending on your actual GMAT score and developments in other considerations.

If you have not applied yet, please reach out to us so we can discuss in more details.

https://admissionado.com/free-consultation/

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Hi Jon,

I am planning for a second MBA, aiming for top 10 bschools in the US. I have a low GPA in both undergrad and grad.
Grad - 6.5 (Finance and Marketing Major - Xavier Institute of Management, Bhubaneswar)
Undergrad - 67.7% (B.Tech Comp Sc. - Mumbai University)

Sharing my profile details below, it would be helpful to know if I stand a chance at getting into one of the top b schools, and what is the range of the GMAT score, which I should target with this profile.

Following are my profile details:

Certifications / Publications
- Cleared Chartered Financial Analyst (CFA) Level I - 2017
- Published research paper on “Video based Face Extraction and Recognition” in the International Journal of Engineering Trends and Technology - 2015

Competitions
• Finalist of "Bisleri" case study competition at IIT Kharagpur - 2016
• Developed an Android Application at Code For Good Hackathon by J.P. Morgan in collaboration with the NGO “Yuva Parivartan" - 2014

WORK EXPERIENCE
BOD Consulting - Management Consultant Dec’2020 – Present
Roles and Responsibilities
• Building future strategy roadmap for a leading logistics player
Received award for the best learner and the best mentor in 2021
• Industry analysis to identify key attractive sectors for new ventures and expansion
• Competitor analysis and benchmarking to define business scope, capability building & best practices
• Building financial models for feasibility analysis of new business segments and defining financial targets

GOLDMAN SACHS: IBD Analyst – Industrials, Europe Dec’17 – Nov’20 (2 years, 11 months)
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• Advising clients on strategic plans, stake management, new market ventures, mergers and acquisitions
• Preparing pitchbooks, information memorandums, board materials, setting up and managing virtual data rooms, and carrying out key client communications
• Working on financial models to build a valuation perspective
• Market study and analysis to identify current trends and build market insight pages
• Experience in Tokyo M&A coverage across multiple sectors from Dec’17 to Oct’18
• Sector exposure includes healthcare, airlines, logistics, packaging, consumer goods, technology
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• Sale of IFCO by Brambles to Triton, valued at US$2.51bn
• $250mn private placement for a consumer goods company due for IPO in 2022
• Mandated for IPO of a shipping firm based out of Middle East

STATE BANK OF INDIA: Management Trainee – Asset Liability Management Jun’17 – Nov’17 (6 months)
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• Analysis of Structural Liquidity Statement of the bank for risk management
• Reporting and analysis of Liquidity Coverage Ratio and Interest Rate Sensitivity of the bank
• Instrumental in determining Market related Fund Transfer Pricing (MRFTP) rates

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• Conceptualized and executed marketing campaigns for clients

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• Winner of Badminton tournament at Inter College Fest – Xuberance, Mumbai
• Won the Badminton tournament in Intra College Sports Meet at Fr. CRCE, Mumbai
• 1st position in Intra college Badminton tournament at Fr. CRCE, Mumbai
• Awarded Best Performance for Badminton tournament at Fr. CRCE, Mumbai
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Thanks for sharing!

what is it that you want to achieve with a second MBA? You have great experiences but there are across many disciplines. You have also broken into sectors for which an an MBA can typically help.

Also, what do you consider to be a top program for your standards? Are you looking at like Top 10 in the US? are you looking at Europe? What are you looking to study? I'm not quite clear on why you need a second MBA from this description. That's a critical part of the application and how an MBA program views your candidacy.

That all being said, for someone with your background, you are looking at needing to score a 730+ on the GMAT. A 700-720 can keep you in the running but probably might hurt slightly. Below a 700 would make it very, very difficult for the "top" programs.

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Hey Folks -

Still on the road, but wanted to pop in here quickly because our team has been getting a LOT of emails lately asking about GPA and the impact it has on applications. So I thought I'd weigh in here.

Let's dig in....

Dealing with a low GMAT can be a pain, but in comparison to a low GPA it’s pretty easy - you just retake.
But how can you deal with a low GPA? I mean, it’s there right? And you are stuck with it, right?

Sooo let’s think. There are a few things you can do to address the low GPA, and my suggestion is a split strategy:

On the one hand you want to explain why you have a low GPA (without making excuses, but we’ll get to that soon), and on the other hand you want to PROVE that you are in fact smart in other areas of your application.

Let’s start by brainstorming about some possible good reason you might have for a low GPA:

- Did you double major? Or do a double degree?
- Did you work part or full-time while studying?
- Did you change your studies in the middle?
- Did you have any family health or psychological difficulties during your studies?
- Were you a professional athlete?

These are all examples of some good reasons for a low GPA. You can work with these... if you play your cards right. The way to play your cards WRONG is to turn these into EXCUSES instead of EXPLANATIONS. The way to do it RIGHT is to explain what happened and take full responsibility for all of it. Keep it short, simple, to the point, and NO EXCUSES: “I was working forty-hour weeks in the cafeteria to pay for my studies, and although I know now that I should have managed my time better, it affected my grades.”

And your reasons should also be coupled with PROOF that SHOWS you are in fact capable of succeeding in a tough and rigorous academic program.
Here are some of the most common things you can use:

- Publications
- Awards
- High GMAT or any other official test score
- Passing other tough professional tests (CFA, Bar, etc.)
- Good Masters GPA

Basically anything that will show your smarts.

And what about “alternative transcripts”? Well, despite all the writing on the Internet, an “alternative transcript” (meaning you taking more courses now) is not really that effective in dealing with a low GPA. It doesn’t remove your bad GPA, nor does it improve it. Yes, it shows that you've got what it takes and you can handle difficult coursework but, in general, I’d say that 20 points higher on the GMAT is worth 15 more classes you could take.

The ONE case where taking additional classes can be helpful, of course, is if you are NOT in a quant-based industry, and/or you did poorly on quant courses. In that instance, yes, taking some additional courses can prove to the adcom that you are capable of doing the math that's coming at you in business school… but really that addresses another problem altogether.

So the bottom line is: if your GPA is low, you gotta crush that GMAT, explain the low GPA... and show the adcom how smart you are via your essays and LORs.

...I never said it was easy.

What you have v/s what you can change?

When it comes to GPA you can withstand against any interview to filter yourself out with following alternative reasons

1. Co-Curricular Activities
2. Awards which take sufficient time to have a say that this did do time of my academic schedule
3. Participation in international tournaments which has led to shortage of overall academic progress.
4. HIGH GMAT will Matter to them if you need to pull out a good interview


Beyond a certain point one also needs to understand that MBA adcoms bottomline is that THEY NEED DIVERSITY and MULTIPLE PEOPLE WITH MULTIPLE ANGLES which they can count to CLASSROOM exercise.
GPA is a representation of 'WILL YOU BE ABLE TO HANDLE THE PRESSURE or NO?' If they find the answer is Yes definitely dont worry about it.

Hope that helps : )
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Hi Admissionado,

I need to figure out what b-schools to keep in each category i.e Ambitious/Competitive/Safe
I have done undergrad from an IIT but I have got a very low gpa of 6.2/10.
However, I got a gmat score of 760 and around 3 years of full time work experience as a Software Engineer at HSBC Technology.
Recently I got promoted to Senior Software Engineer in the same organization.

I have put some of the colleges into consideration but I'm not sure if I'm going in the right direction. Here are some of the schools I have thought of:
Ambitious -> yale, Columbia, NYU stern
Competitive -> CMU tepper, UVA darden, UCLA Anderson
Safe -> Indiana Kelley, Georgetown, Emory
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Hi singhpulkit:

Thanks for reaching out to us. Regarding your list:

Ambitious: Columbia feels like a high, high reach. I would take this off your list. At the very least, apply Early Decision but don't count on it. I agree that Yale SOM is a reach (and you should apply), but it's tricky because they place a huge emphasis on both GPA and GMAT. Even with a high GMAT, I'm not sure they will overlook your GPA.

Competitive: I would bump UVA Darden into the Ambitious category. Georgetown McDonough should also be here instead of Safe. Perhaps Cornell Johnson is another good option?

Safe: Indiana Kelley and Emory Goizueta are solid choices. What about Washington Foster? Not sure it's quite a safe, safe school but you should apply regardless. What about UNC Kenan-Flagler? Vanderbilt Owen? Rice Jones?

Obviously, you want to limit this number (4-5 per round is generally smart, though if you start early you can probably get to 5-6) but it's good to start at the wide part of the funnel.
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