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New post 27 Aug 2017, 06:15
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Sor Juana Inés de la Cruz was making the case for women’s equality long before the cause had a name: Born in the mid-seventeenth century in San Miguel Nepantla, Mexico, the convent was the perfect environment for Sor Juana to pursue intellectual pursuits, achieving renown as a mathematician, poet, philosopher, and playwright.

A. the convent was the perfect environment for Sor Juana to pursue intellectual pursuits, achieving
B. Sor Juana found that the convent provided the perfect environment for intellectual pursuits, and she went on to achieve
C. the convent provided the perfect environment for intellectual pursuits for Sor Juana; going on to achieve
D. Sor Juana found that the convent provided the perfect environment for intellectual pursuits; achieving
E. the convent was, Sor Juana found, the perfect environment for intellectual pursuits, and she went on to achieve



B. Sor Juana found that the convent provided the perfect environment for intellectual pursuits, and she went on to achieve

in the original copy (Verbal Review 2017) "that" is missing. I got confused as I know the idiom is "find that". I understand that is still the best option here, unlike other cases in which the second best option is just a little more wordy. Could anyone explain if "found convent provided"is ok? For me if there is no "that" in this sentence, provided should be followed by "with" and another noun or the provided should be changed to another one.
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B. Sor Juana found that the convent provided the perfect environment for intellectual pursuits, and she went on to achieve

in the original copy (Verbal Review 2017) "that" is missing. I got confused as I know the idiom is "find that". I understand that is still the best option here, unlike other cases in which the second best option is just a little more wordy. Could anyone explain if "found convent provided"is ok? For me, if there is no "that" in this sentence, provided should be followed by "with" and another noun or the provided should be changed to another one.

If a noun or pronoun is found after the relative pronoun word 'that', then one can safely omit the relative pronoun (including who, and which)

The plant that I grow has not been watered for a week -- correct
The plant I grow has not been watered for a week -- correct

On the other hand, if a verb follows the relative pronoun 'that', then one cannot drop the 'that'

The plant that hasn't been watered for a week is going to die -- correct
The plant hasn't been watered for a week is going to die -- incorrect due to double verbing

Of course, we know we can omit both the relative pronoun and the verb, if a participle, either a present participle (verb+ing) or a past participle (verb+ed or verb+en or some other irregular past participle) is used.

E.g: The plant that is not watered for a week is going to die. -- correct
The plant not watered for a week is going to die. -- correct
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Many thanks for the instructions. I was stuck between B and D.

As some of you explain that D is wrong as it leaves a sentence fragment at the last sentence after the semicolon.

Does the portion after the semicolon have to only modify "found" in "Sor Juana found that the convent provided the perfect environment for intellectual pursuits", the previous sentence right before the semicolon?

See an example in which the part after the semicolon is incomplete:

Tropical bats play important roles in the rain forest ecosystem, aiding in the dispersal of cashew, date, and fig seeds; pollinating banana, breadfruit, and mango trees; and indirectly help produce tequila by pollinating agave plants.

(a) pollinating banana, breadfruit, and mango trees; and indirectly help produce
(b) pollinating banana, breadfruit, and mango trees; and indirectly helping to produce
(c) pollinating banana, breadfruit, and mango trees; and they indirectly help to produce
(d) they pollinate banana, breadfruit, and mango trees; and indirectly help producing
(e) they pollinate banana, breadfruit, and mango trees: indirectly helping the producing of

OG2018 SC#692 OA is B...

Or it can skip to modify " making" in "Sor Juana Inés de la Cruz was making the case for women’s equality long before the cause had a name"?

I can omit the portion after the Colon to "Sor Juana Inés de la Cruz was making the case for women’s equality long before the cause had a name, achieving renown as a mathematician, poet, philosopher, and playwright"?

Can this be achieved grammatically?

From the meaning of the sentence, I think it can not modify "make", since Sor Juana Inés de la Cruz was making the case before the cause had a name, the following part after colon shows the details how she had made it before the cause has its name?

Because the modifier causes confusion, thus D is not the best answer and C prevails? Please help explain!
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New post 13 Apr 2018, 07:08
Hello MisterD,

I will be glad to help you with this one. :-)


MisterD wrote:
As some of you explain that D is wrong as it leaves a sentence fragment at the last sentence after the semicolon.



This is correct. On GMAT SC a semicolon must be followed by an independent clause.


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Tropical bats play important roles in the rain forest ecosystem, aiding in the dispersal of cashew, date, and fig seeds; pollinating banana, breadfruit, and mango trees; and indirectly helping to produce tequila by pollinating agave plants.



I agree that in the above-mentioned officially correct sentence, semicolons are not followed by independent clauses. But there is a solid reason for the same.

The sentence above has lists inside the main list. The main lists comprises the three comma + verb-ing modifier

    aiding in the dispersal...
    pollinating... and
    indirectly helping to produce

Now, the first two parallel elements in this main list have list inside them:

Element 1: aiding in the dispersal of

    cashew,
    date, and
    fig seeds


Element 2: pollinating

    banana,
    breadfruit, and
    mango trees



Please note that commas separate the parallel elements in the "inside list" of the main list. Hence, semicolons have been used to separate the parallel elements in the main list to keep clear distinction between the parallel elements in the main lists and the parallel elements in the "inside list".


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Or it can skip to modify " making" in "Sor Juana Inés de la Cruz was making the case for women’s equality long before the cause had a name"?

I can omit the portion after the Colon to "Sor Juana Inés de la Cruz was making the case for women’s equality long before the cause had a name, achieving renown as a mathematician, poet, philosopher, and playwright"?

Can this be achieved grammatically?



This modification is not possible because as a rule, comma + verb-ing modifiers (action modifiers) cannot skip the preceding independent clause to refer to an action in another independent clause.

Form meaning standpoint also, this modification is not possible because there is no logical connection between the actions of making the case for women's equality and achieving renown as a mathematician, poet, philosopher, and playwright.


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From the meaning of the sentence, I think it can not modify "make", since Sor Juana Inés de la Cruz was making the case before the cause had a name, the following part after colon shows the details how she had made it before the cause has its name?

Because the modifier causes confusion, thus D is not the best answer and C prevails? Please help explain!



The portion after the colon just provides the context as to how Sor Juana Inés de la Cruz could pursue these intellectual quests.

Now achieving in Choice D is NOT an action modifier because it is preceded by a semicolon and not by a comma. Hence, there is no question of any modification from this part of the sentence.

Choice B is the correct answer for this official problem.


Hope this helps. :-)
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Hello Shraddha

Many thanks for the detailed explanation. I have learnt a lot from the thread!
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The convent was not born in mexico but Sor Juana was born in Mexico.
Eliminate A,C and E.

We are left with B and D.

The usage of ';' and then the modifier is wrong because semicolon is ending the clause.
She did not find that the convent provided the perfect environment for intellectual pursuits while she was being renowned as a mathematician, poet, philosopher, and playwright.

As a result, eliminate D

Therefore the correct answer is B.
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(A) the convent was the perfect environment for Sor Juana to pursue intellectual pursuits, achieving - incorrect (the convent was not born in mexico)

(B) Sor Juana found that the convent provided the perfect environment for intellectual pursuits, and she went on to achieve - correct

(C) the convent provided the perfect environment for intellectual pursuits for Sor Juana; going on to achieve - incorrect (the convent was not born in mexico)

(D) Sor Juana found that the convent provided the perfect environment for intellectual pursuits; achieving - incorrect (;)

(E) the convent was, Sor Juana found, the perfect environment for intellectual pursuits, and she went on to achieve - incorrect (the convent was not born in mexico)
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Y is option D wrong ...?
Can sum1 explain how achieving is different from aim to achieve in this ques?


choice D is incorrect because:

1. The second part of the answer choice is not an independent clause as is given in the answer choice.
2. If you dig deeper into the meaning of the sentence, the sentence wants to convey that the subject Sor Juana found the convent to be the perfect environment for intellectual pursuits and she went on to achieve certain pursuits. There should be parallelism.
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is there any error other than semicolon between (B) and (D)
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Hello Konstantin1983, as you are correct.

However, since there is no choice here that has a that after found, this is clearly not being tested in this question. Another official problem where one would have preferred a that after announced.

Trans world Entertainment Corporation, which owns the record Town and Saturday Matinee retail chains announced it was closing up to one fourth of its stores because of poor sales.

Have noticed some other similar questions as well. So, this is not one of the criterion you should use to eliminate answer choices.

EducationAisle is correct. Case in point: https://gmatclub.com/forum/tropical-bat ... 31457.html

Also, here is an excerpt about semicolons from Wikipedia:
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A semicolon can be used between two closely related independent clauses, provided they are not already joined by a coordinating conjunction. Semicolons can also be used in place of commas to separate items in a list, particularly when the elements of that list contain commas.
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Some preamble can help to set the milieu about this topic in relation to the dropping of the word 'that', which we are aware, has multiple roles to play.

'That' can act as a simple connector joining two related ICs.

Example: I bought a house that I found to be a fruitful investment in the long end'. The two ICs are joined by the subordinate conjunction 'that', which effectively turns the whole sentence into a complex sentence.

However, the point here is that even if you remove the conjunction, it will still make a sensible meaning. Therefore one can easily say that I bought a house I found to be a fruitful investment in the long end.

Now, let's look at the second example.

I bought a house that proved to be a fruitful investment in the end.

Now try to drop the word 'that'. - I bought a house proved a fruitful investment in the long end. - The new version is grammatically wrong because the second clause now has lost the subject and hence is a fragment.

To make life simple, the takeaway is that when you have a noun after the word 'that', we can drop it. However, when you have a verb after the word 'that', we cannot drop the relative pronoun 'that'.

Now let us go to the topic at hand.

In both B and D, "that" is followed by the noun 'the convent" and hence it is ok to drop it.

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Sor Juana Inés de la Cruz was making the case for women’s equality long before the cause had a name: Born in the mid-seventeenth century in San Miguel Nepantla, Mexico, the convent was the perfect environment for Sor Juana to pursue intellectual pursuits, achieving renown as a mathematician, poet, philosopher, and playwright.


(A) the convent was the perfect environment for Sor Juana to pursue intellectual pursuits, achieving -- wrong because the participial modifier modifies the convent and its being, but not the real achiever that Sor Juana was

B) Sor Juana found that the convent provided the perfect environment for intellectual pursuits, and she went on to achieve -- This is good

(C) the convent provided the perfect environment for intellectual pursuits for Sor Juana; going on to achieve -- a phrase after a semicolon is wrong unless the punctuation tries to separate different arms in a long winding list.

(D) Sor Juana found that the convent provided the perfect environment for intellectual pursuits; achieving -- the same error as in C.

(E) the convent was, Sor Juana found, the perfect environment for intellectual pursuits she went on to achieve-- The sentence says that the convent rather than Sor Juana was born in the mid-seventeenth century.

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A, C and E are out due to modifier issue. Semi colon denotes an independent clause whereas "achieving..." is clearly not an independent clause.
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