Last visit was: 13 Dec 2024, 20:31 It is currently 13 Dec 2024, 20:31
Close
GMAT Club Daily Prep
Thank you for using the timer - this advanced tool can estimate your performance and suggest more practice questions. We have subscribed you to Daily Prep Questions via email.

Customized
for You

we will pick new questions that match your level based on your Timer History

Track
Your Progress

every week, we’ll send you an estimated GMAT score based on your performance

Practice
Pays

we will pick new questions that match your level based on your Timer History
Not interested in getting valuable practice questions and articles delivered to your email? No problem, unsubscribe here.
Close
Request Expert Reply
Confirm Cancel
avatar
busflanker
Joined: 04 Dec 2016
Last visit: 04 Apr 2017
Posts: 10
Given Kudos: 2
Location: United Kingdom
GMAT 1: 750 Q49 V42
GPA: 3.7
GMAT 1: 750 Q49 V42
Posts: 10
Kudos: 0
Kudos
Add Kudos
Bookmarks
Bookmark this Post
User avatar
EMPOWERgmatRichC
User avatar
GMAT Club Legend
Joined: 19 Dec 2014
Last visit: 31 Dec 2023
Posts: 21,807
Own Kudos:
Given Kudos: 450
Status:GMAT Assassin/Co-Founder
Affiliations: EMPOWERgmat
Location: United States (CA)
GMAT 1: 800 Q51 V49
GRE 1: Q170 V170
Expert reply
GMAT 1: 800 Q51 V49
GRE 1: Q170 V170
Posts: 21,807
Kudos: 12,059
Kudos
Add Kudos
Bookmarks
Bookmark this Post
avatar
busflanker
Joined: 04 Dec 2016
Last visit: 04 Apr 2017
Posts: 10
Given Kudos: 2
Location: United Kingdom
GMAT 1: 750 Q49 V42
GPA: 3.7
GMAT 1: 750 Q49 V42
Posts: 10
Kudos: 0
Kudos
Add Kudos
Bookmarks
Bookmark this Post
User avatar
EMPOWERgmatRichC
User avatar
GMAT Club Legend
Joined: 19 Dec 2014
Last visit: 31 Dec 2023
Posts: 21,807
Own Kudos:
12,059
 []
Given Kudos: 450
Status:GMAT Assassin/Co-Founder
Affiliations: EMPOWERgmat
Location: United States (CA)
GMAT 1: 800 Q51 V49
GRE 1: Q170 V170
Expert reply
GMAT 1: 800 Q51 V49
GRE 1: Q170 V170
Posts: 21,807
Kudos: 12,059
 []
1
Kudos
Add Kudos
Bookmarks
Bookmark this Post
Hi James,

Since the AWA section requires some effort/energy, completing it will impact your energy level, endurance, etc. on Test Day - so this score might be a bit 'inflated.' This is meant to say that you should plan to complete the FULL CAT from now on (so that we can get a sense of how well you might perform later in the Exam when you're a bit tired). That having been said, you certainly appear to have the necessary skills to score at a really high level on the Official GMAT - and scoring at that level would put you in position to apply to any Schools that you might be interested in (and perhaps receive Scholarship money), so those ideas might be worth considering.

I suggest that you study as you see fit for the next week, then take a new FULL CAT. Once you have those scores, you should report back here and we can discuss your timeline and how best to proceed.

GMAT assassins aren't born, they're made,
Rich
avatar
busflanker
Joined: 04 Dec 2016
Last visit: 04 Apr 2017
Posts: 10
Given Kudos: 2
Location: United Kingdom
GMAT 1: 750 Q49 V42
GPA: 3.7
GMAT 1: 750 Q49 V42
Posts: 10
Kudos: 0
Kudos
Add Kudos
Bookmarks
Bookmark this Post
Hi Rich,

thanks for the advice. I did the second practice test on the Gmatprep software, including the essay question and got 740, so I guess you were right about it being a bit inflated (in the end i got 1 less on the numerical and one more on the verbal Q49 v42vs Q50 V41)! Still though, 740 is probably fine for my purposes. I guess my question is whether outside of the top business schools, is there any advantage in taking time to study to score higher once you are over the 700 threshold? There is a test slot free on Wednesday which would fit my plans very conveniently, but if it would have a significant effect on my applications or possible scholarships I would delay.

Also, in terms of general exam technique, apart from the essay I finished each section in around 2/3rds of the allocated time. Is it generally advisable to spend a bit longer? I feel I may have been able to spot a couple of mistakes in the numerical by spending more time, however to be honest I was struggling to focus a bit at the end of the verbal already, so maybe its better to avoid spending too long.. Any advice gratefully received.

Thanks

James

EMPOWERgmatRichC
Hi James,

Since the AWA section requires some effort/energy, completing it will impact your energy level, endurance, etc. on Test Day - so this score might be a bit 'inflated.' This is meant to say that you should plan to complete the FULL CAT from now on (so that we can get a sense of how well you might perform later in the Exam when you're a bit tired). That having been said, you certainly appear to have the necessary skills to score at a really high level on the Official GMAT - and scoring at that level would put you in position to apply to any Schools that you might be interested in (and perhaps receive Scholarship money), so those ideas might be worth considering.

I suggest that you study as you see fit for the next week, then take a new FULL CAT. Once you have those scores, you should report back here and we can discuss your timeline and how best to proceed.

GMAT assassins aren't born, they're made,
Rich
User avatar
EMPOWERgmatRichC
User avatar
GMAT Club Legend
Joined: 19 Dec 2014
Last visit: 31 Dec 2023
Posts: 21,807
Own Kudos:
Given Kudos: 450
Status:GMAT Assassin/Co-Founder
Affiliations: EMPOWERgmat
Location: United States (CA)
GMAT 1: 800 Q51 V49
GRE 1: Q170 V170
Expert reply
GMAT 1: 800 Q51 V49
GRE 1: Q170 V170
Posts: 21,807
Kudos: 12,059
Kudos
Add Kudos
Bookmarks
Bookmark this Post
Hi James,

GMAC has publicly stated that the Official Score that you earn on Test Day is within +/- 30 points of actual ability. Assuming a similar 'swing' in how your CATs function, your 2 CAT score results show that you essentially performed the same each time (+/- a few points).

You're ultimately asking Admissions questions, so you would likely find it beneficial to speak with an Admissions Expert about your overall profile and what your potential score would mean at each of the Schools that you plan to apply to. There's a Forum full of those Experts here:

ask-admission-consultants-124/

Since you're finishing the Quant and Verbal sections so early, it's likely that you're rushing through certain questions and potentially missing out on a few points because of minor mistakes (or lack of note-taking, etc.). Thus, slowing down a bit might help you to score a bit higher. That having been said, if you're scoring well into the 700s anyway, you can comfortably apply to any Schools you like, so the amount of extra time that you might spend honing your Test-taking skills is a matter of your sense of readiness to face the Test. I think that you should go take the Test and 'lock in' that high score. You can always retake it later if you choose.

GMAT assassins aren't born, they're made,
Rich
User avatar
ccooley
User avatar
Manhattan Prep Instructor
Joined: 04 Dec 2015
Last visit: 06 Jun 2020
Posts: 932
Own Kudos:
1,584
 []
Given Kudos: 115
GMAT 1: 790 Q51 V49
GRE 1: Q170 V170
Expert reply
GMAT 1: 790 Q51 V49
GRE 1: Q170 V170
Posts: 932
Kudos: 1,584
 []
1
Kudos
Add Kudos
Bookmarks
Bookmark this Post
If I were you, I would study a bit, but only because I'd be kicking myself if I left any points on the table. 750 is a great score, so you'd almost certainly be fine if you took the test tomorrow, but why not put in a tiny bit of effort and possibly get an even better score?

Given that you're quite new to the GMAT, there are probably some things that you can improve very quickly and with only a few days of reading/studying. Things to think about:

- Data Sufficiency. This is a weird problem type. You might be falling for subtle logical traps in some tougher problems, even with a 51Q. Reading material: https://www.manhattanprep.com/gmat/blog ... ms-part-1/

- Sentence Correction. Are you using your ear a lot on the grammar stuff? That's completely okay, but there are certain rules that fool almost everyone's ears, because we constantly misuse them in speech and writing. Reading material: https://www.manhattanprep.com/gmat/blog ... ly-normal/

- Critical Reasoning/Reading Comp: have you mastered Inference ('Draw a Conclusion') problems? These can take some getting used to, since they aren't asking for the kind of inference you'd make in the real world. Instead, they're looking for something very specific to the GMAT - an answer that you can prove is correct.
avatar
busflanker
Joined: 04 Dec 2016
Last visit: 04 Apr 2017
Posts: 10
Given Kudos: 2
Location: United Kingdom
GMAT 1: 750 Q49 V42
GPA: 3.7
GMAT 1: 750 Q49 V42
Posts: 10
Kudos: 0
Kudos
Add Kudos
Bookmarks
Bookmark this Post
Thanks so much for that link, very helpful, you're right I was doing most of these questions by ear and having a basic framework of things to look for was very useful.

I ended up taking the test today and scored 750 (IR8, Q49, V42), which obviously is a decent enough score, but I have to say I'm absolutely gutted with 49 on quantative! Youre right i should have done a bit of studying instead of assuming, there were so many technicalities i was unsure of (eg does the square root sign imply positive only or +/- solutions, pretty key when answerig data Sufficiency!)

Oh well, if the purpose of GMAT is to pass the first filter 750 should be enough, so thanks to the both of you for your advice on here

Regards

James

P.s. Just because its niggling me, lots of the sentence correction options involved use of the em dash, which i have always avoided as a rule, but are these acceptable?



ccooley
If I were you, I would study a bit, but only because I'd be kicking myself if I left any points on the table. 750 is a great score, so you'd almost certainly be fine if you took the test tomorrow, but why not put in a tiny bit of effort and possibly get an even better score?

Given that you're quite new to the GMAT, there are probably some things that you can improve very quickly and with only a few days of reading/studying. Things to think about:

- Data Sufficiency. This is a weird problem type. You might be falling for subtle logical traps in some tougher problems, even with a 51Q. Reading material

- Sentence Correction. Are you using your ear a lot on the grammar stuff? That's completely okay, but there are certain rules that fool almost everyone's ears, because we constantly misuse them in speech and writing. Reading

- Critical Reasoning/Reading Comp: have you mastered Inference ('Draw a Conclusion') problems? These can take some getting used to, since they aren't asking for the kind of inference you'd make in the real world. Instead, they're looking for something very specific to the GMAT - an answer that you can prove is correct.

Posted from my mobile device
Moderator:
General GMAT Forum Moderator
141 posts