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The lawyer for the defense charged that she suspected the police of having illegally taped her confidential conversations with her client and then used the information obtained to find evidence supporting their murder charges.


(A) used the information obtained to find evidence supporting

(B) used such information as they obtained to find evidence supporting

(C) used the information they had obtained to find evidence that would support

(D) of using the information they had obtained to find evidence that would support

(E) of using such information as they obtained to find evidence that would be supportive of

https://www.nytimes.com/1981/07/05/nyregion/tainted-evidence-murder-trial-to-open.html

Mr. Greenblatt charged afterward that he suspected the police of having illegally taped the confidential conversations and then used the information to seek evidence to support their murder charges.

OA is D, however I have concerns according of the answer (q. is form 1000sc), and here they are:
1) they? according to the oxford vocabulary POLICE is singular.
2) I think that USE should be parallel to TAPED because of THAN
...she suspected of having illegaly taped and than used inf....
...she suspected of having illegaly taped and than of using inf.. this one is sound like She first suspected of having... and than she suspected of using... .
Correct me if I am mistaken. Thanx.

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774. The lawyer for the defense charged that she suspected the police of having illegally taped her confidential conversations with her client and then used the information obtained to find evidence supporting their murder charges.

(A) used the information obtained to find evidence supporting
(B) used such information as they obtained to find evidence supporting
(C) used the information they had obtained to find evidence that would support
(D) of using the information they had obtained to find evidence that would support
(E) of using such information as they obtained to find evidence that would be supportive of

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is D, however I have concerns according of the answer (q. is form 1000sc),
and here they are:
1) they? according to the oxford vocabulary POLICE is singular.
2) I think that USE should be parallel to TAPED because of THAN
...she suspected of having illegaly taped and than used inf....
...she suspected of having illegaly taped and than of using inf.. this one is sound like She first suspected of having... and than she suspected of using... .
Correct me if I am mistaken. Thanx.



1) first police can be used as both singular and plural... look at nonunderlined portion ,it has 'their murder charges'.... so 'they' is correct

2) second llism is between the two actions of police... so using is llel to having....

3) third point. use of then is not abt her suspecting one thing after another... it is first illegally taping then using that info for using....
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Nope. Police is plural. Look at the un-underlined part at the end using a plural pronoun 'their'. You can not reject BCDE on that count. It is a test of //ism. D is the answer.
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IMO D.

To narrow down the choices, first look at 'of having'. Next, take out [illegally taped her confidential conversations with her client ]

She suspected the police 'of having'.. 'and then of using'. Of having and of using should be parallel.

Therefore, eliminate A,B,C.

Next, 'taped' is past tense. Look in D and E for past tense in regards to obtaining evidence so the two are parallel.

'they had obtained' is past tense.

Choose D.
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indeed D is the right answer. Still, could someone explain why "of using" in this case have to be parallel to "of having" ?
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she suspected the police of having illegally taped her
she suspected the police of using the information

of having || of using
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indeed D is the right answer. Still, could someone explain why "of using" in this case have to be parallel to "of having" ?
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Is that "the police" here should be considered a singular and B, C, D, E therefore should be all rejected?
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The lawyer for the defense charged that she suspected the police of having illegally
taped her confidential conversations with her client and then used the information
obtained to find evidence supporting
their murder charges.
(A) used the information obtained to find evidence supporting
(B) used such information as they obtained to find evidence supporting
(C) used the information they had obtained to find evidence that would support
(D) of using the information they had obtained to find evidence that would support
(E) of using such information as they obtained to find evidence that would be supportive
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The lawyer of defense suspected the police of two things:-
1) of having illegally taped her conversation
2) and of using the information for their use.
Option A, B and C are out.

We need 'the' before information as we are talking about a particular information. E is out

D is the answer
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There are three events in the issue.
1.The police were illegally taping the conversation. This is the first event.
2. Then they used it to bolster the oncoming murder charges. This is the second event.
3. The defense lawyer alleged about the two misdemeanors of the police. This is the third event.
Whether she is still suspecting it is not germane to the issue. The police actions are indeed the two earlier cited illegal taping of the private conversation and wrongfully using dialogue to find evidence for their murder charges.
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There are three events in the issue.
1.The police were illegally taping the conversation. This is the first event.
2. Then they used it to bolster the oncoming murder charges. This is the second event.
3. The defense lawyer alleged about the two misdemeanors of the police. This is the third event.
Whether she is still suspecting it is not germane to the issue. The police actions are indeed the two earlier cited illegal taping of the private conversation and wrongfully using dialogue to find evidence for their murder charges.


Thank you for your response. My concern is that we don't know whether the police action in 1. & 2. has taken place. She is suspecting that the police has done so. It may or may not be so. Can we use had in such a case?

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In this Sentence Correction and our issue is whether the taping and evidencing were done earlier than suspecting and charging. If the phrase 'having taped and used' points to the earlierness of the event, then we should be happy to use 'had.' If we doubt whether action one and two were ever done by the police, that debate will be part of critical reasoning
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IMO OA is D

The lawyer suspected about police that
1) have illegally taped
2) used the information to find evidence

-> So we have to use 'of~'. A,B,C is out

Between D and E, D is correct.

In E, there is only 'they obtained'. Obtaining tape was happened before when lawyer suspected.
In D, however, I can see 'had obtained'. So D is more clear.
So I chose D.
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IMO OA is D

The lawyer suspected about police that
1) have illegally taped
2) used the information to find evidence

-> So we have to use 'of~'. A,B,C is out

Between D and E, D is correct.

In E, there is only 'they obtained'. Obtaining tape was happened before when lawyer suspected.
In D, however, I can see 'had obtained'. So D is more clear.
So I chose D.


You have not considered the case that "having" may cover "use" as well.

The lawyer suspected that police
1) have illegally taped
2) HAVE used the information to find evidence.

Thus "having taped and used" is alright, and option A, with your reasoning, cannot be eliminated.

Nonethless, the auxiliary verbal "having" cannot cover both "taped" and "used" because "having" is used to depict completion of an action before another action is taken up. If "having" covers both "taped" and "used", then there is no third action that followed the completion of these two events. "Having" can cover ONLY "taped", in which case, "using" is the following action.
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HG0815 wrote:
IMO OA is D

The lawyer suspected about police that
1) have illegally taped
2) used the information to find evidence

-> So we have to use 'of~'. A,B,C is out

Between D and E, D is correct.

In E, there is only 'they obtained'. Obtaining tape was happened before when lawyer suspected.
In D, however, I can see 'had obtained'. So D is more clear.
So I chose D.


You have not considered the case that "having" may cover "use" as well.

The lawyer suspected that police
1) have illegally taped
2) HAVE used the information to find evidence.

Thus "having taped and used" is alright, and option A, with your reasoning, cannot be eliminated.

Nonethless, the auxiliary verbal "having" cannot cover both "taped" and "used" because "having" is used to depict completion of an action before another action is taken up. If "having" covers both "taped" and "used", then there is no third action that followed the completion of these two events. "Having" can cover ONLY "taped", in which case, "using" is the following action.



i think that it is good to use "having taped and used' because these two actions happen before 'suppected'

so, why A is incorrect?
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of having taped and used

why used can not be parallel with taped? they are parallel and logic

pls, explain
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sayantanc2k wrote:
HG0815 wrote:
IMO OA is D

The lawyer suspected about police that
1) have illegally taped
2) used the information to find evidence

-> So we have to use 'of~'. A,B,C is out

Between D and E, D is correct.

In E, there is only 'they obtained'. Obtaining tape was happened before when lawyer suspected.
In D, however, I can see 'had obtained'. So D is more clear.
So I chose D.


You have not considered the case that "having" may cover "use" as well.

The lawyer suspected that police
1) have illegally taped
2) HAVE used the information to find evidence.

Thus "having taped and used" is alright, and option A, with your reasoning, cannot be eliminated.

Nonethless, the auxiliary verbal "having" cannot cover both "taped" and "used" because "having" is used to depict completion of an action before another action is taken up. If "having" covers both "taped" and "used", then there is no third action that followed the completion of these two events. "Having" can cover ONLY "taped", in which case, "using" is the following action.


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I am still not clear why can’t we use “having” as common to both “taped” and “used”. I didn’t understand the part “there is no third action following the completion of these two events”. Please help
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@daagh-Kindly request you to please explain this question in detail.
What is the problem with option A.Moreover how we decide whether this is a case of parallelism .It can also be that only first event of suspecting is taking place.i.e
She suspected the police only and not suspecting the usage of information...How will we decide??
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The lawyer for the defense charged that she suspected the police of having illegally taped her confidential conversations with her client and then used the information obtained to find evidence supporting their murder charges.


(A) used the information obtained to find evidence supporting

(B) used such information as they obtained to find evidence supporting

(C) used the information they had obtained to find evidence that would support

(D) of using the information they had obtained to find evidence that would support

(E) of using such information as they obtained to find evidence that would be supportive of

@daagh- Kindly elucidate this question more in depth.How can we decide whether question at hand is a case of parallelism.
It can also be that only first action is taking place i.e She suspected the police of taping her calls and not suspecting the usage of information.What is the problem with option A...???

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Ayrish wrote:
The lawyer for the defense charged that she suspected the police of having illegally taped her confidential conversations with her client and then used the information obtained to find evidence supporting their murder charges.


(A) used the information obtained to find evidence supporting

(B) used such information as they obtained to find evidence supporting

(C) used the information they had obtained to find evidence that would support

(D) of using the information they had obtained to find evidence that would support

(E) of using such information as they obtained to find evidence that would be supportive of

https://www.nytimes.com/1981/07/05/nyregion/tainted-evidence-murder-trial-to-open.html

Mr. Greenblatt charged afterward that he suspected the police of having illegally taped the confidential conversations and then used the information to seek evidence to support their murder charges.

OA is D, however I have concerns according of the answer (q. is form 1000sc), and here they are:
1) they? according to the oxford vocabulary POLICE is singular.
2) I think that USE should be parallel to TAPED because of THAN
...she suspected of having illegaly taped and than used inf....
...she suspected of having illegaly taped and than of using inf.. this one is sound like She first suspected of having... and than she suspected of using... .
Correct me if I am mistaken. Thanx.



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sayantanc2k wrote:
HG0815 wrote:
IMO OA is D

The lawyer suspected about police that
1) have illegally taped
2) used the information to find evidence

-> So we have to use 'of~'. A,B,C is out

Between D and E, D is correct.

In E, there is only 'they obtained'. Obtaining tape was happened before when lawyer suspected.
In D, however, I can see 'had obtained'. So D is more clear.
So I chose D.


You have not considered the case that "having" may cover "use" as well.

The lawyer suspected that police
1) have illegally taped
2) HAVE used the information to find evidence.

Thus "having taped and used" is alright, and option A, with your reasoning, cannot be eliminated.

Nonethless, the auxiliary verbal "having" cannot cover both "taped" and "used" because "having" is used to depict completion of an action before another action is taken up. If "having" covers both "taped" and "used", then there is no third action that followed the completion of these two events. "Having" can cover ONLY "taped", in which case, "using" is the following action.



i think that it is good to use "having taped and used' because these two actions happen before 'suppected'

so, why A is incorrect?


Same Q! Why is A incorrect? How do we know that the parallel is between "of having" and "of using" and not "taped" and "used"?

I think A seems better than D since it's more concise and avoids conditional "would".
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Same Q! Why is A incorrect? How do we know that the parallel is between "of having" and "of using" and not "taped" and "used"?

Hi dabaobao, we know the parallelism is between of having and of using, because well, both are prepositional phrases (and in fact, start with the same preposition of, which makes the parallelism even more evident).

A can get worse in terms of interpretation. used is used as a verb here. So, used is parallel to the verb suspected on the Left hand side of and. Now, notice the structure of A:

...she suspected...and then used...

This means that she used the information obtained to find evidence supporting their murder charges.

This is clearly absurd because the intent is that the police used the information obtained to find evidence supporting their murder charges.
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