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I am jealous of law school applicants. They sometimes hear back (accept or reject) within 1 week of submitting their applications.

Also, they submit ONE essay called the personal statement to all schools. No need to tweak it for each one. and they all accept generic recommendations and your recommenders only submit one letter to the online system which sends it to every school you want to apply at.

so basically, the marginal cost of an additional application is almost 0 aside from the app fee :).

B-schools should take a hint from some of the other professional grad programs!
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L-school pretty much only looks at numbers. Whereas, you can have a 3.9 and a 700+ and get rejected from top 15 b-schools. If you have a 3.9 and a 170+, you are pretty set for almost all the l-schools.
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I am going mental. Looks like CBS is going to be quiet until next week given that my interviewer waited 10 days to submit feedback. 10 days! And given the chat on the Booth forum, Booth, which was my 'backup' will not be a slam dunk at all. Everyone's interview seemed to go well. If I don't get in then I have to start researching schools for R2 and I have to work out what I'm doing with my job, since I can't focus for 2 hours at a time a once because of the business school wait, checking forums, waking up 3 times a night to check email. I am sleep deprived, and frankly, I've looked better.

Vent over.
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since I can't focus for 2 hours at a time a once because of the business school wait, checking forums, waking up 3 times a night to check email. I am sleep deprived, and frankly, I've looked better.
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Sapphire--I feel your pain. I have to try so hard to focus on work/life outside of applications...To try to help out though, what's the likelihood of these schools posting decisions/updating your status overnight? Anyone have any insight? My inclination is that most updates won't happen during your sleeping hours (at least not after midnight), but I have NO idea why I think that...
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L-school pretty much only looks at numbers. Whereas, you can have a 3.9 and a 700+ and get rejected from top 15 b-schools. If you have a 3.9 and a 170+, you are pretty set for almost all the l-schools.
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that is the problem with b-school admissions. We have no idea where we stand. I think its funny that LS applicants worry at all; 90% of their cycle is determined before they submit their first application.

it would be great if there was some formula we could use for percent chances :)
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I can't say how glad I am to see this thread!! I was beginning to think I was slowly going mad alone. As with many of you, the wait has by far been the worse part for me. The GMAT was stressful, but being an engineer I found studying to be somewhat fun and stretched mental muscles I had not used in a while. It also taught me quite a bit on the verbal side. When I moved on to writing my essays I was worried. I stared at a blank screen for ages wondering how to even begin. It took quite some time to get the ball rolling but once I got started it was an incredibly enlightening process. All in all, everything up to submitting was a great time.

But now I wait. I have mostly given up on my shot at HBS and I get more stressed by the day waiting on Stanford. I try not to think about MIT or Haas because they won't have anything to say for another few weeks. But it is no use. I check my iphone every 5 minutes for an email. I check these forums every hour to see who is getting invited. Then I compare my profile to the latest applicant with a 780 GMAT, Ivy league 4.0, Astro-physicist Olympian who lead an NGO to feed a small African country while being a top performing manager at a Fortune 500 company. Then I stress more and second guess my essays and school choices. Then I convince myself "no. I do have a chance" and continue to wait. All this combined with working in an office that strongly resembles a Dilbert cartoon has been enough to drive me mad. Time is seemingly standing still.

The worst mistake I mad was re-reading my MIT app. When I submitted I was so confident in my essays, I thought there would be no contest in my admittance. After reading it again I have convinced myself that the adcom will get a stout chuckle out of my bumbling attempt at prose and will stamp my application with a big red DING. But what do I know, does anyone else suspect that they are hyper-critical of their essays after submitting, or is it just me? I have refused to re-read any of my other essays.

But I am glad I subjected myself to this torturous process. Even if I don't get accepted, I had fun, learned a lot about myself, and I have other options on the horizon. And I am learning a lot about being more patience.

Wow, I can't believe how much I needed to vent! I surprised myself! At least we know we are all in this together, going through the same painful wait. Thanks for starting the thread!! It was much needed.

Good Luck everyone!!

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I've re-read my essays so many times that I find myself unintentionally quoting chunks of them in conversation. Afterwards I'm like, wait was that essay 2 paragraph 4 word for word??

On a different note, does anyone have any interest in trading completed essays? I am curious to see what other real people's essays are like and how mine compare. If nothing else it will help kill some time during the wait.
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DucRR, +1 for your post. That's almost exactly how I feel.
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My friend applied to 23 law schools for the price it took me to apply to 5.... That and yeah, no interviews, no nothing... If I could apply to 23 b-schools i'd feel much better. (I mean statistically, you'd have to get in somewhere then right?)
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DucRR - your post seriously just made my day - I feel like you read my mind...
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since I can't focus for 2 hours at a time a once because of the business school wait, checking forums, waking up 3 times a night to check email. I am sleep deprived, and frankly, I've looked better.

Sapphire--I feel your pain. I have to try so hard to focus on work/life outside of applications...To try to help out though, what's the likelihood of these schools posting decisions/updating your status overnight? Anyone have any insight? My inclination is that most updates won't happen during your sleeping hours (at least not after midnight), but I have NO idea why I think that...
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Unfortunately I am in Australia, which has a completely opposite time zone to East coast schools. Their 9am-5pm is my 1-9am.
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since I can't focus for 2 hours at a time a once because of the business school wait, checking forums, waking up 3 times a night to check email. I am sleep deprived, and frankly, I've looked better.

Sapphire--I feel your pain. I have to try so hard to focus on work/life outside of applications...To try to help out though, what's the likelihood of these schools posting decisions/updating your status overnight? Anyone have any insight? My inclination is that most updates won't happen during your sleeping hours (at least not after midnight), but I have NO idea why I think that...

Unfortunately I am in Australia, which has a completely opposite time zone to East coast schools. Their 9am-5pm is my 1-9am.
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I'm an idiot--if only I'd read your profile. Oy. Clearly my brain is fried! My bad.
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Dear all people on Venting thread:

You are rad. I hope you all get in, and me too, so we can hang out on campus and be pals.

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i think i am going to get rejected everywhere about 5 times per day. here's to hoping for that first acceptance :lol:
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i think i am going to get rejected everywhere about 5 times per day. here's to hoping for that first acceptance :lol:
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I want it finalized... I have several decisions to make if I don't get in and I could be pursuing other routes to my goals. But I don't want to interview/commit then say "whoops, sorry, I got in" a month later... today bschool was less a waiting thing and more an "Argh, I want to pursue this convo, but I need to wait a few months."

I also, of course, assume I'm rejected 5-10x a day whenever it crosses my mind. Still, can't control it, so just trying to do other things...
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this thread is so awesome. group therapy.

to steal a cliche, "life is not as sweet without its bitterness".

Just know it will feel great that after all these agony you get accepted somewhere.

For undergrad, I knew I was getting accepted to my choice school, it felt easy and I never really appreciated what I had. For MBA, it's been such a journey. I was over confident the first time, cautious the second time, and worried the third time. But now that I finally reached my goal, it feels really really great. And it definitely humbled me. I don't think I would have savored this victory without all those rejections.
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I have to agree - the waiting is awful. It's a double whammy - now that my applications are done it seems like I have a lot more free time, and a lot more to agonize over as well ;)

The weirdest part for me is that I still slip into "application mode" sometimes. Like I'll start thinking about things I could talk about in interviews, even though I don't have any more interviews to prepare for! And then I'll catch myself doing it. It's so strange. Am I crazy?? I'm really looking forward to this all being over.
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I am frustrated with schools that do not give you updates through the process. What are you supposed to think? Is my application complete? Is it under review? I have to give kudos to school such as Cornell that do have a very transparent process!
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I am trying to refrain from cursing, but honestly, these school ask too much sh!t. :evil: I swear they want an essay for or explanation of everything they ask, even when it's iterated somewhere else. Wharton specifically asks for too much. No other grad programs ask you to write 4-5 essays, explain your employment, write another essay to be considered for financial aid, write about your extracurriculars, write about your work experience, then go write a resume, and then beg people to fill out our overzealous recommendation, and then come interview with us so we can ask you all this crap again!!!!!!!!!!

Ugh, I am so over this.
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So happy to find this thread! I HATE having all my interviews done. I HATE that I don't have anything to wait for or keep me busy... for THREE more very long weeks. Kind of weird, huh?

It feels like an eternity until decision day, and my fear of getting dinged from my top choices is driving me crazy.
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