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I am jealous of law school applicants. They sometimes hear back (accept or reject) within 1 week of submitting their applications.

Also, they submit ONE essay called the personal statement to all schools. No need to tweak it for each one. and they all accept generic recommendations and your recommenders only submit one letter to the online system which sends it to every school you want to apply at.

so basically, the marginal cost of an additional application is almost 0 aside from the app fee :).

B-schools should take a hint from some of the other professional grad programs!
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med school residency programs need one essay, one set of recommendations...and people apply to 15+ places with those....how convenient is that....!
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Yeah, a good friend of mine applied to 30 med schools! And got only four or five IVs, even with pretty good stats. That's seems to be the only downside. Other grad professional programs seem to hone in on your numbers on paper and if you don't make their bar, there's really not much you can do.

Also the length of the statement of purpose varies wildly from program to program in some fields of academia. For example, I applied to MPP programs along with my MBA applications and I basically had to write whole new SOPs for some schools. UC Berkeley asked for three pages on the SOP and three to five pages on a "personal history statement." It was the Kellogg of Policy programs. Other schools, like Duke asked for a max of two and Chicago's Harris School had a firm word count that was in the neighboorhood of 1.75 pages but the online application counted words! There was no 10 percent buffer allowed there.

After reflecting on these experiences and the prospects of recent law grads... I'm not really minding the quirks of applying to business school all that much.

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Other grad professional programs seem to hone in on your numbers on paper and if you don't make their bar, there's really not much you can do.
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I doubt any of us truly want to be considered based only on our hard numbers. I think it's awesome that an applicant with a 600 GMAT can still get into a good MBA if he or she provides a compelling story and has other impressive accomplishments of the "soft" type. And while that could mean that an applicant with a 750 GMAT gets dinged, I wouldn't want it any other way. Don't we all have some weak spots we want the adcom to overlook?

On to the actual venting: I can't wait for this month to be over and to finally know where I'm in and where I'm not. All I can think about all day is cookies. Big, chocolate chip cookies.

Sometimes I get excited and imagine myself in my dream school. I even try to figure out how exactly I'm going to move there and whether I want to live with a roommate. The next minute I despair and think what a waste of money and time this whole application process was, when it's clearly hopeless. :evil:

Tough! But thank you for starting this thread. :-)
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Hehehehe, this is funny. Come on, let's admit it. There's something kind of perversely fun about this. All the lingo, the MBA jargon, forum idiosyncrasies. What would life be without it? :-) Let's admit it. We like being here. Would you rather be relaxed and not care? No, it would take all the fun out of life. If things work out, we will be euphoric. If things don't, it will be a little boring. But to experience the euphoria, you have to undergo this part. Schools know this, so they push you with this process. It's an extended publicity stunt.

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So true! :lol:
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Yeah, a good friend of mine applied to 30 med schools! And got only four or five IVs, even with pretty good stats. That's seems to be the only downside. Other grad professional programs seem to hone in on your numbers on paper and if you don't make their bar, there's really not much you can do.

Also the length of the statement of purpose varies wildly from program to program in some fields of academia. For example, I applied to MPP programs along with my MBA applications and I basically had to write whole new SOPs for some schools. UC Berkeley asked for three pages on the SOP and three to five pages on a "personal history statement." It was the Kellogg of Policy programs. Other schools, like Duke asked for a max of two and Chicago's Harris School had a firm word count that was in the neighboorhood of 1.75 pages but the online application counted words! There was no 10 percent buffer allowed there.

After reflecting on these experiences and the prospects of recent law grads... I'm not really minding the quirks of applying to business school all that much.

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I applied to some 13 medical schools last year and got 1 Interview (and an admit :-D ). Admittedly, I applied late but as you pointed out, it was a lot of work from many angles. The MCAT, the primary apps (I did 15) and the secondary apps (I completed 13, couldnt get myself to apply to some places :lol: )....and then the essays, the why "medical school" and tell us more about yourself etc questions. While I did work a lot on my B-school apps (mostly because I was new to the B-school stratosphere and barely knew what I was doing :lol: ), I admit that I didn't mind it.
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Argh! Is my phone not working? Ring please. Please ring!
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A week or so ago I got an e-mail, where the subject started, "Invited..." :shock:

Even before I finished reading the whole thing, I had the whole 2-yr plan laid out in front of me. But as I started reading it, I was confused! :suspect

*XYZ school?? :stupid name sounds familiar, let's see*
*S#!t! I did not even apply here, WTF is this :?: *
*It's an invite to some event...... :arh *
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*and that's how my nth 2-yr plan ended :( *
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Today I got waitlisted from my top choice school (M7) AND my safety school (top 50ish if they are lucky). FML.
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I have to vent, I got an email from adcomms about something saying "we will let you know no later than March 8". I have been staring at my phone all day. It is not ringing :(
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Sitting in my office waiting for the phone to ring and not getting much work done. Sigh.
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is today the day? =/
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Why do I keep checking my status? Why do I keep checking my status? Why do I keep checking my status?

It's still the same.
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I am jealous of law school applicants. They sometimes hear back (accept or reject) within 1 week of submitting their applications.

Also, they submit ONE essay called the personal statement to all schools. No need to tweak it for each one. and they all accept generic recommendations and your recommenders only submit one letter to the online system which sends it to every school you want to apply at.

so basically, the marginal cost of an additional application is almost 0 aside from the app fee :).

B-schools should take a hint from some of the other professional grad programs!
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Find comfort in the fact MBAs have a much easier time finding jobs than law grads.
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Find comfort in the fact MBAs have a much easier time finding jobs than law grads.
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Is that really true? Most T14 law schools boast employment rates of 96% or above.
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All my interviews are done and all I have to do is wait wait wait wait wait until March 26 (hopefully there will be good news, but if not, I have to wait until April 6 for the last one). I don't think I can wait another 16 (or 27) days. I may implode.
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Is that really true? Most T14 law schools boast employment rates of 96% or above.
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A good friend recently graduated from Michigan law school (is this T14? regardless, it's a great law school) -- very good grades. He's earning $35K in a clerking position. There are other graduates at that firm that are multiple years out of school earning $40K and doing the same work. The supply of indistinguishable JDs is very high apparently.
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A good friend recently graduated from Michigan law school (is this T14? regardless, it's a great law school) -- very good grades. He's earning $35K in a clerking position. There are other graduates at that firm that are multiple years out of school earning $40K and doing the same work. The supply of indistinguishable JDs is very high apparently.
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Yea, I think Michigan law is T14. But man, that doesn't sound like a good deal at all! Law school is 3 years instead of 2 for business school, and I think it costs like 60k per year, so it's almost a 200k investment. I've heard some law firms are paying new grads money to not work for a year, and when the economy gets better, they'll start working.
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Yea, I think Michigan law is T14. But man, that doesn't sound like a good deal at all! Law school is 3 years instead of 2 for business school, and I think it costs like 60k per year, so it's almost a 200k investment. I've heard some law firms are paying new grads money to not work for a year, and when the economy gets better, they'll start working.
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Law school is getting ROCKED hard in this economy. I read abovethelaw , legal blog (funny), often. Most of the Big Law are deferring candidates for a year - they hire you, but you can't start for a year (you do get a small stipend). One Big Law firm actually decided to cut all the deferred candidates. Imagine, waiting 6 months to start your job only to find that now you don't have one. My college buddy said the #1 guy at Texas Law (non-T14, but #15) got deferred. And he's doing clerkship instead doing what he wants, Big Law. NYU students are making YouTube videos seeking jobs. Columbia grads are listing themselves on craigslist. Just imagine how much competition there's going to be when the economy turns around, and all these unemployed or employed-but-dissatisfied elite lawyers start gunning for the same firms.
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Yaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggghhhhhh!

That is all.
(For now.)
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Will Ross continue to call admits for another day? Will Kellogg update the status check 15 minutes before sending an email? I done lost my marbles. :yikes
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