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jerrygmat
Joined: 18 Jun 2015
Last visit: 07 Aug 2017
Posts: 8
Location: Hong Kong
Schools: Ross '19 (A) Anderson '19 (A$)
Schools: Ross '19 (A) Anderson '19 (A$)
Posts: 8
Hi guys,
I have searched the threads within Gmatclub and would love to hear your opinions specific to my situation.
I'm and international applicant and I've been accepted to both schools (Ross and Anderson $), and now I have to decide where I want to go to. My Post-MBA goal is to get into MBB, and frankly that's one of the major motivators to getting an MBA, another possible post-MBA career could be in Tech. I am a bit torn between these two schools since each has its pros and cons. I have an average GPA and a 720 Gmat.
Ross:
- Slightly better brand name vs. Anderson within the whole US
- More well-known as a consulting school
- Solid placement stats in MBB per career reports
- More dedicated campus recruiters (?) (Based on the firms' websites there seem to be more recruiters assigned to Ross than to Anderson)
Anderson:
- Great Location and weather
- Strong brand name in California
- MBB does recruit on campus, however fewer placement numbers than Ross
- Stronger brand name in Asia (?)
For this decision I'm going to take money out of the factor, and Post-MBA I am indifferent as to which part of the US I head to, although I am also open to going back to Asia.
From a career standpoint, I've spoken to a few alumnus and students in both schools and each has their strong arguments. Ross has solid placements figures (The Class of 2015 has 45 students going into MBB), UCLA meanwhile doesn't disclose the figures but it's probably around 20. Some say that this is largely due to more Ross grads aspiring to get into MBBs and fewer Anderson grads applying to the same positions - hence lower placement figures at Anderson. I've also heard that in UCLA you have to be one of the very best within the class (high GPA/GMAT etc) to even land an interview at an MBB since positions are so scarce. By the same token, the many students at Ross wanting to get into MBB also makes the MBB recruiting scene at Ross very competitive.
Which school do you think would give me the highest chance to achieve my goal?
Thanks for your time!
J
I have searched the threads within Gmatclub and would love to hear your opinions specific to my situation.
I'm and international applicant and I've been accepted to both schools (Ross and Anderson $), and now I have to decide where I want to go to. My Post-MBA goal is to get into MBB, and frankly that's one of the major motivators to getting an MBA, another possible post-MBA career could be in Tech. I am a bit torn between these two schools since each has its pros and cons. I have an average GPA and a 720 Gmat.
Ross:
- Slightly better brand name vs. Anderson within the whole US
- More well-known as a consulting school
- Solid placement stats in MBB per career reports
- More dedicated campus recruiters (?) (Based on the firms' websites there seem to be more recruiters assigned to Ross than to Anderson)
Anderson:
- Great Location and weather
- Strong brand name in California
- MBB does recruit on campus, however fewer placement numbers than Ross
- Stronger brand name in Asia (?)
For this decision I'm going to take money out of the factor, and Post-MBA I am indifferent as to which part of the US I head to, although I am also open to going back to Asia.
From a career standpoint, I've spoken to a few alumnus and students in both schools and each has their strong arguments. Ross has solid placements figures (The Class of 2015 has 45 students going into MBB), UCLA meanwhile doesn't disclose the figures but it's probably around 20. Some say that this is largely due to more Ross grads aspiring to get into MBBs and fewer Anderson grads applying to the same positions - hence lower placement figures at Anderson. I've also heard that in UCLA you have to be one of the very best within the class (high GPA/GMAT etc) to even land an interview at an MBB since positions are so scarce. By the same token, the many students at Ross wanting to get into MBB also makes the MBB recruiting scene at Ross very competitive.
Which school do you think would give me the highest chance to achieve my goal?
Thanks for your time!
J
Rohit6
Joined: 29 Jun 2015
Last visit: 18 Feb 2018
Posts: 238
Location: Singapore
Concentration: Operations, General Management
Schools: ISB '18 (A) Kellogg 1YR '18 (M$) Tepper '19 (A) Anderson '19 (A$) Judge"18 (D) Duke '19 (D) Sloan '19 (D) Haas '19 (WL) Ross '19 (WL) LBS '19 (D) Insead Sept '17 (D)
GMAT 1: 740 Q50 V40
GPA: 3.4
WE:Manufacturing and Production (Manufacturing)
Products:
Schools: ISB '18 (A) Kellogg 1YR '18 (M$) Tepper '19 (A) Anderson '19 (A$) Judge"18 (D) Duke '19 (D) Sloan '19 (D) Haas '19 (WL) Ross '19 (WL) LBS '19 (D) Insead Sept '17 (D)
GMAT 1: 740 Q50 V40
Posts: 238
Hi Buddy,
I applied to both schools hence my answer is based on my personal research.
In Ross you do have a slightly better shot at MBB. But Hey, none of these schools are primary target schools for MBBs to be honest. Hence, I would talk to more students and alum and see how good Ross is for tech. (not as good as UCLA in my opinion). Don't ignore your back-up career choice.
Ross gives you a descent shot at MBB but not that great a shot at tech.
UCLA gives you an almost equal shot at MBB but a much better shot at tech.
UCLA also has a better name in Asia, for sure. (I stay in Singapore and when I tell people about these schools, I can see that most recognize UCLA but not many recognize Ross)
UCLA also has lesser tuition fee, is giving you a scholarship on top of it, has much better weather and LA will in general give you a much better exposure.
If I were you, I would have chosen UCLA (again, based on what I know of these 2 schools)
Curios: did you try negotiating with Ross or even with UCLA for more $$$?
I applied to both schools hence my answer is based on my personal research.
In Ross you do have a slightly better shot at MBB. But Hey, none of these schools are primary target schools for MBBs to be honest. Hence, I would talk to more students and alum and see how good Ross is for tech. (not as good as UCLA in my opinion). Don't ignore your back-up career choice.
Ross gives you a descent shot at MBB but not that great a shot at tech.
UCLA gives you an almost equal shot at MBB but a much better shot at tech.
UCLA also has a better name in Asia, for sure. (I stay in Singapore and when I tell people about these schools, I can see that most recognize UCLA but not many recognize Ross)
UCLA also has lesser tuition fee, is giving you a scholarship on top of it, has much better weather and LA will in general give you a much better exposure.
If I were you, I would have chosen UCLA (again, based on what I know of these 2 schools)
Curios: did you try negotiating with Ross or even with UCLA for more $$$?
jerrygmat
crackHSW
Joined: 07 Aug 2010
Last visit: 03 Dec 2024
Posts: 246
Status:Now or never
Location: India
Concentration: Strategy, Technology
Schools: McCombs '15 (D) Jones '15 (D) Foster '15 (M) McDonough '15 (WL) Anderson '15 (D) Mays '15 (D)
GPA: 3.5
WE:Consulting (Consulting)
jerrygmat
Congrats on the admits.
Any small $ helps throughout the MBA program. UCLA is definitely better when it comes to West Coast recruitment and Tech jobs in general. Ross is a stable school with almost 1/3 of the class getting into consulting. MBB recruiting is strong at Ross, but if you are good enough you will be able to crack MBB from UCLA as well. You have to go a level deeper and check from that 33% how many were internationals. The schools usually don't publish that on the website and you might have to ask the career management service. You should also speak to the alumnus who were in your situation and handled the work authorization situation as an international.
Being an international puts more challenge as the recruiters don't want to place you at a client site and tell that client later that a consultant X will stop working(few months down) because he/she faces immigration challenges!!
Hope this helps!!
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I would say which of your career options do you ideally want to pursue, you have to be really honest with yourself when making decisions like this. If its MBB go to Ross if its Tech then go to UCLA
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asokg
Joined: 17 Jan 2017
Last visit: 06 Jun 2017
Posts: 16
Location: United States (CA)
Concentration: Strategy
Schools: Anderson '19 (A$) Booth '19 (D) Duke '19 (D) Haas '19 (D) Kellogg '19 (D) Ross '19 (WL) Wharton '19 (D) McCombs '19 (WD) Foster '19 (A$)
GMAT 1: 750 Q51 V40
GPA: 3.35
Schools: Anderson '19 (A$) Booth '19 (D) Duke '19 (D) Haas '19 (D) Kellogg '19 (D) Ross '19 (WL) Wharton '19 (D) McCombs '19 (WD) Foster '19 (A$)
GMAT 1: 750 Q51 V40
Posts: 16
I am in a very similar situation, though I am wait listed at Ross, and have an admit with Anderson with a decent scholarship. I am trying to figure out if a Ross admit (if it arrives) is worth ditching the scholarship at Anderson.
I've spoken with a bunch of students at both places, and I largely agree with Rohit. I too am in the MBB target boat, and I agree that Ross has a marginally better placement rate with MBB. I would take the numbers about consulting recruitment on the websites with a grain of salt, they are not worth much. In speaking with current students about 2016 recruiting, it seems like almost half the Ross class applies for consulting positions, and last year ~20 got into MBB. The students' numbers were that 200 of the 450 recruit for consulting, meaning a hit rate of 1 in 10. Anderson places ~10 into MBB of 120 or so who recruit for consulting. But, I am not sure if the marginal gain in MBB recruitment at Ross is worth the extra tens of thousands of dollars. But, I also know that a significant portion of the value of an MBA is in the alum network, and Ross does stand out there, compared to Anderson. Anderson is definitely a better school if you want to work in the west coast or in Technology.
It feels like a very close choice, and especially for a career in consulting, there are far larger sources of randomness that determine if you end up at MBB. Networking, GMAT, the interview day performance, and just plain luck seem more important in determining if you end up at MBB.
Anyway, good luck with your decision
I've spoken with a bunch of students at both places, and I largely agree with Rohit. I too am in the MBB target boat, and I agree that Ross has a marginally better placement rate with MBB. I would take the numbers about consulting recruitment on the websites with a grain of salt, they are not worth much. In speaking with current students about 2016 recruiting, it seems like almost half the Ross class applies for consulting positions, and last year ~20 got into MBB. The students' numbers were that 200 of the 450 recruit for consulting, meaning a hit rate of 1 in 10. Anderson places ~10 into MBB of 120 or so who recruit for consulting. But, I am not sure if the marginal gain in MBB recruitment at Ross is worth the extra tens of thousands of dollars. But, I also know that a significant portion of the value of an MBA is in the alum network, and Ross does stand out there, compared to Anderson. Anderson is definitely a better school if you want to work in the west coast or in Technology.
It feels like a very close choice, and especially for a career in consulting, there are far larger sources of randomness that determine if you end up at MBB. Networking, GMAT, the interview day performance, and just plain luck seem more important in determining if you end up at MBB.
Anyway, good luck with your decision
Rohit6
Rohit6
Joined: 29 Jun 2015
Last visit: 18 Feb 2018
Posts: 238
Location: Singapore
Concentration: Operations, General Management
Schools: ISB '18 (A) Kellogg 1YR '18 (M$) Tepper '19 (A) Anderson '19 (A$) Judge"18 (D) Duke '19 (D) Sloan '19 (D) Haas '19 (WL) Ross '19 (WL) LBS '19 (D) Insead Sept '17 (D)
GMAT 1: 740 Q50 V40
GPA: 3.4
WE:Manufacturing and Production (Manufacturing)
Products:
Schools: ISB '18 (A) Kellogg 1YR '18 (M$) Tepper '19 (A) Anderson '19 (A$) Judge"18 (D) Duke '19 (D) Sloan '19 (D) Haas '19 (WL) Ross '19 (WL) LBS '19 (D) Insead Sept '17 (D)
GMAT 1: 740 Q50 V40
Posts: 238
asokg
Buddy not to demotivate you but I'd say don't count on an option that 1 out of 10 people make it. If you want to do consulting also look at the next 4-6 firms, the Big-4s and ATK. These r pretty descent firms too. Over the past few months I have been talking to a lot of folks and every1 wants to do MBB, which is just out of my understanding. There are so many gr8 things which you can do after an MBA. Also keep your mind open, if you go to UCLA (or even Ross) you'll see multiple exciting career options, so be open to whatever interest you and follow your heart.
Not sure if I made any sense to you.
Buddy not to demotivate you but I'd say don't count on an option that 1 out of 10 people make it. If you want to do consulting also look at the next 4-6 firms, the Big-4s and ATK. These r pretty descent firms too. Over the past few months I have been talking to a lot of folks and every1 wants to do MBB, which is just out of my understanding. There are so many gr8 things which you can do after an MBA. Also keep your mind open, if you go to UCLA (or even Ross) you'll see multiple exciting career options, so be open to whatever interest you and follow your heart.
Not sure if I made any sense to you.
Probably Ross by a hair
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