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According to a study by the Carnegie Foundation for the Advancement of Teaching, companies in the United States are providing job training and general education for nearly eight million people, about equivalent to the enrollment of the nation’s four-year colleges and universities.

(A) equivalent to the enrollment of
(B) the equivalent of those enrolled in
(C) equal to those who are enrolled in
(D) as many as the enrollment of
(E) as many as are enrolled in
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According to a study by the Carnegie Foundation for the Advancement of Teaching, companies in the United States are providing job training and general education for nearly eight million people, about equivalent to the enrollment of the nation’s four-year colleges and universities.
(A) equivalent to the enrollment of----eight million people are compared with enrollment
(B) the equivalent of those enrolled in-----eight million people are equivalent to those.. wrong comparison
(C) equal to those who are enrolled in----Wordy, awkword
(D) as many as the enrollment of------wrong comparison again
(E) as many as are enrolled in----OK to me

So "E" for me.
Kindly correct my concepts if I am wrong here!!
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According to a study by the Carnegie Foundation for the Advancement of Teaching, companies in the United States are providing job training and general education for nearly eight million people, about equivalent to the enrollment of the nation’s four-year colleges and universities.
(A) equivalent to the enrollment of compares quantity with process of enrolling
(B) the equivalent of those enrolled in compares quantity with people
(C) equal to those who are enrolled in compares quantity with people
(D) as many as the enrollment of better, although still compares uncomparable things (quantity with process)
(E) as many as are enrolled in Right one!

What is OA?

P.S. Please underline the part of the sentence which is under question.

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31 Oct 2010, 20:34
IMO is B.

(A) equivalent to the enrollment of - Wrong comparison. You have to compare people with people.
(B) the equivalent of those enrolled in - CORRECT.
(C) equal to those who are enrolled in - Equivalent is better. We are comparing quantities.
(D) as many as the enrollment of - Changes the meaning. Colleges and universities cannot enroll. People do.
(E) as many as are enrolled in - Ackward.
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First some tips -

1. Whenever there is a multiplication kind of comparison, such as I am 2 times as old as my sister, use- as comparison verb as. And not as two times greater than or so.

2. Whenever there is addition or subtraction kind of comparison,such as I am 2 years older than my sister, use - Verb + er, than and not 'as comparison verb as'.

I believe if you follow this structure of multiplication and addition/subtraction you will sail through this easily.
More on this is available in Manhattan Sentence Correction the latest version.

Coming to the question.
By POE - C and E prevail.

C : eight million people, a number has been compared with 'those' which refers to people and not a number. Hence eliminated.

E: as many as clearly shows the same number of people are present in the 4 year colleges and the universities.

Hence IMO : E.
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amit2k9 wrote:
First some tips -

1. Whenever there is a multiplication kind of comparison, such as I am 2 times as old as my sister, use- as comparison verb as. And not as two times greater than or so.

2. Whenever there is addition or subtraction kind of comparison,such as I am 2 years older than my sister, use - Verb + er, than and not 'as comparison verb as'.

I believe if you follow this structure of multiplication and addition/subtraction you will sail through this easily.
More on this is available in Manhattan Sentence Correction the latest version.

Coming to the question.
By POE - C and E prevail.

C : eight million people, a number has been compared with 'those' which refers to people and not a number. Hence eliminated.

E: as many as clearly shows the same number of people are present in the 4 year colleges and the universities.

Hence IMO : E.

Thanks, but what I have some trouble with is what are being compared.

D. the enrollment of vs E. are enrolled in.

I thought the number of people were compared to the number of enrollment, so I answered D.

I just find 'as many as are enrolled in' awkward.

Option D,

'the enrollment of' is clearly missing a subject such as those etc. Moreover, the second clause of the sentence goes like this - about .. the enrollment of 4 year colleges and universities.

Here enrollment appears to be a subject as it is being compared with a number - 8 million or so in the first clause of the sentence. Hence, you can clearly eliminate this option.

Always, check for the objects being compared first and then check the comparison verb.
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E looks better in all of the options due to above mentioned reasons but I also have concerns about construction of sentence, Can anybody explain?
after comma about as many as are enrolled....; How before comma and after comma parts of the sentences are connected?
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The sentence compares people with nation's four year enrollment (Countable noun with countable noun). Equivalent and Equal are used to modify uncountable noun. Such as water, sugar. As many as is used to modify countable noun.

In D people are improperly compared with enrollment.
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suryav wrote:
hi,
option A&B have word 'equivalent' which calls for concision issue....
also where ever there is a comparision ,we can straightaway reject the option having equivalent(personal experience).

pls explain y C is wrong.

br//suryav

Hello,

Baten80 had a nice explanation for C in an earlier discussion of the same problem; "equivalent" and "equal" modify uncountable nouns, while "as many as" modifies countable nouns.
In this problem, population is countable, so "as many as" must be used.

Indeed "equal" sounds alright, and I'm sure I use it to modify countable nouns in my own speech; however, it is not grammatically correct.
I hope this helps. Please don't hesitate to correct me if I'm wrong. Thanks!

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I am always confused with these question (A and E here for me, I could eliminate C)

Are we comparing numbers or entities. I felt A compared numbers where as E compared entities (people). In E, we have as many as, which is poeple.

GyanOne thinks otherwise. Can someone please help here? This is one concept that I need to get correct.

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According to a study by the Carnegie Foundation for the Advancement of Teaching, companies in the United States are providing job training and general education for nearly eight million people, about equivalent to the enrollment of the nation’s four-year colleges and universities.
(A) equivalent to the enrollment of
(B) the equivalent of those enrolled in
(C) equal to those who are enrolled in
(D) as many as the enrollment of
(E) as many as are enrolled in

"equivalent to the enrollment" messes up the comparison. You want to compare people to people. A is gone.

"the equivalent of those enrolled", you're equating people to "those enrolled", which doesn't make sense. B is gone.

"equal to those who are enrolled", in what way are they "equal"? Equal implies that the traits of X and Y are equal, or that the beliefs of X and Y are equal. But you don't want to compare traits/beliefs of X and Y, you want to compare X to Y. So, C is gone

"as many as the enrollment" compares the people to the enrollment. Doesn't make sense, so D is gone.

E "as many as are enrolled in" is a perfect segway into the non-underlined part to the right, this portion connects the traits of the 8 million people to the enrolled people in american colleges. That's the intended comparison.
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'about' has to be followed by 'as' in this case

Went for D.

But, I think E is the right answer because we are talking about the number of people.
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I agree E is best

but I do not understand the pattern of E. There is no verb "to be" in the first half of comparision, why we can used "are" in the second half.

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According to a study by the Carnegie Foundation for the Advancement of Teaching, companies in the United States are providing job training and general education for nearly eight million people, about equivalent to the enrollment of the nations four-year colleges and universities.

A. equivalent to the enrollment of
B. the equivalent of those enrolled in
C. equal to those who are enrolled in
D. as many as the enrollment of
E. as many as are enrolled in

I believe that comparison is between nouns (no. of people helped by companies and no. of people enrolled ) and not between verbs. So "to be" form of verb has to be used only on any one side of comparison.
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WE need 2 things to use ellipsis.
- the elliptical part must be present somewhere in the sentence
- we need a parallelism to make the reader able to infer what is elliptical

choice E meet the first standard but do not meet the second. How the verb "are" is correct . there is no form of "to be" in the first half of comparision, how we can infer that the subject of "were" is what it should be.
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Now just have a look at following sentence. I have replaced the compared figure with "E":

companies in the United States are providing job training and general education for nearly as many people as are enrolled in nations four-year colleges and universities.

Hope this addresses 2nd standard of parallelism..
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I go with E.

In this question, we compare "nearly eight million people" with the number of people enrolling the nations four-year colleges. So:
A. Compare "people" with "the enrollment" -> wrong
B. Wrong word for comparison: the equivalent of
C. Wrong comparison: "equal" is used for uncountable nouns.
D. Compare "people" with "the enrollment" -> wrong
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E should be understood that

as many as the number of persons who are enroled...

but why do we can make and elliptical sentence like E? what is the rule of ellipsis applied in choice E. pls explain this
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According to a study by the Carnegie Foundation for the Advancement of Teaching, companies in the United States are providing job training and general education for nearly eight million people, about equivalent to the enrollment of the nation’s four-year colleges and universities.

The modifier "about equivalent to the enrollment of the nation’s four-year colleges and universities" modifies "eight million people". So the modifier should talk about a number and not the enrollment.

(A) equivalent to the enrollment of - Comparing enrollment to number - Incorrect
(B) the equivalent of those enrolled in - Comparing number to enrollment - Incorrect
(C) equal to those who are enrolled in - Comparing number to people who are enrolled in - Incorrect
(D) as many as the enrollment of - Comparing number and enrollment - Incorrect
(E) as many as are enrolled in - Comparing number and number - Correct
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I go with E.

In this question, we compare "nearly eight million people" with the number of people enrolling the nations four-year colleges. So:
A. Compare "people" with "the enrollment" -> wrong
B. Wrong word for comparison: the equivalent of
C. Wrong comparison: "equal" is used for uncountable nouns.
D. Compare "people" with "the enrollment" -> wrong

After eliminating the incorrect answer, I also chose E. However, I am not satisfied with E since it's a bit weird.

Can you or anyone explain why "As many as are enrolled in" is correct?
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